Social Texas Children Treated for Vitamin A Toxicity as Disinformation Spreads [Measles Outbreak]

Voodoo_Child906 said:
It's a strange phenomenon, did you see the story about the Mennonite couple that lost their 6 year old daughter to Measles? They said that they still wouldn't do the vaccinations even after their child passed

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Thoughts, prayers, and maybe some fucking medical books.
 
Voodoo_Child906 said:
That's is not what you said, did you think that I somehow couldn't look back a few pages? Extremely poor form by you.

"But then they would be exposing their healthy child, who has a .0001% chance of death, to an “inadequately” studied vaccine KNOWN to cause febrile seizures (which are associated with increased risk of epilepsy) and other health problems."

So, once again, a fever causes febrile seizures, and not the MMR vaccine or Measles itself, correct?
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You initially quoted a post of mine where I highlight an association, that’s where my confusion comes from… sure, I’ll concede MMR nor measles “causes” seizures. Instead, they are both associated with seizures.

Now, are seizures more often associated with MMR or measles? You posted a claim about a certain rate of seizures “associated” with measles… can you back it up?
 
PhitePhan said:
You initially quoted a post of mine where I highlight an association, that’s where my confusion comes from… sure, I’ll concede MMR nor measles “causes” seizures. Instead, they are both associated with seizures.
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Yes, you were confused on what you actually said, and I'm glad now that you've finally clarified that neither of them are the cause of seizures. You're finally getting it!

Now, are seizures more often associated with MMR or measles? You posted a claim about a certain rate of seizures “associated” with measles… can you back it up?
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https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10205263/

Clinical features of the patients​

An 84 (90.3%) of hospitalized measles children does not previously receive at least one dose of MCV1, while 9 (9.7%) received one dose, and none of them had two doses or more. In addition, 95.7% had a high fever, 93.5% had a cough, 67.7% had a rash, 58.1% had coryza, 40.9% had conjunctivitis, and 30.1% had Koplik’s spots. Over half (55.9%) had complications associated with measles.

https://www.healthychildren.org/English/health-issues/conditions/fever/Pages/Febrile-Seizures.aspx

Febrile seizures happen in in 3 or 4 out of every 100 children. They can occur between 6 months and 5 years of age, but most often around 12 to 18 months old.

A febrile seizure usually occurs during the first few hours of a fever. While they are most common with fevers of 102°F (38.9°C) or above, they can also happen with milder fevers.


So a fever is an almost universal symptom of the Measles, so out of 100 Measles patients, we'd expect to see 3 or 4 with a febrile seizure.
 

School-age child dies in Texas measles outbreak; health chief Kennedy now calls vaccine best protection​

By Kanishka Singh and Susan Heavey

  • Kennedy advocates for vaccine to protect against measles
  • Kennedy visits family of child who died
  • Senate committee hearing with Kennedy delayed from April 10
WASHINGTON, April 6 (Reuters) - A second child with measles has died in Texas, state officials said on Sunday, in an outbreak of the childhood disease that has resulted in nearly 500 cases in Texas and has spread across 22 states.

The school-aged child, who was unvaccinated and had no underlying health conditions, died on Thursday in the hospital from measles pulmonary failure, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

"The child was receiving treatment for complications of measles while hospitalized," Aaron Davis, a spokesperson for UMC Health System in Lubbock, Texas, said in an email.

It is the second death of a child in Texas since the measles outbreak began in late January.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., in a post on X, identified the child as 8-year-old Daisy Hildebrand.

Kennedy, who has been an anti-vaccine advocate and previously has said vaccination is a personal choice, on Sunday said vaccines are the best protection against measles.

"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine," he said in the post on X. He said that as of Sunday there are 642 confirmed cases of measles, 499 of those in Texas.

Kennedy said in his post that he visited Texas to comfort the Hildebrand family after their daughter's death. He added that he got to know the family of the first child in Texas to die in the measles outbreak, Kayley Fehr, "after she passed away in February."

Kennedy said that teams from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have been redeployed to Texas at the request of the state's governor, Greg Abbott.

Kennedy has previously recommended Vitamin A as a measles treatment, along with good nutrition. While Vitamin A has been shown in some studies in developing countries to lessen the severity of symptoms, it can lead to liver toxicity in high quantities.

Kennedy's post about vaccines came after Republican U.S. Senator Bill Cassidy, who is also a physician and chair of the Senate health committee, wrote on X after the child's death was disclosed: "Everyone should be vaccinated."

"Top health officials should say so unequivocally b/4 another child dies," Cassidy wrote on X.

Cassidy had backed Kennedy's confirmation after Kennedy promised not to make changes to vaccine oversight.

The measles vaccine is 97% effective after two shots.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on its website says the vaccine is "the best protection against measles," which spreads through the air when an infected person sneezes or coughs.

KENNEDY HEARING POSTPONED​

Cassidy last week called for Kennedy to appear before the Senate health committee on April 10 to discuss the U.S. health department's restructuring in which 10,000 people were being laid off, including from the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But on Friday a committee official said the hearing would not occur on April 10 because seven days notice had not been given per committee procedure. No date has been set.

The Texas Department of State Health Services on Friday reported 59 new measles cases in three days, a 15% jump, for a total of 481 in the state since late January.

Related measles outbreaks have been reported in other states, including New Mexico and Oklahoma. In addition, an unvaccinated New Mexico adult tested positive for measles after dying in March.

As of Thursday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported a weekly nationwide increase of 124 measles cases, bringing the total to 607 so far this year. That compares to a nationwide total in 2024 of 285 reported cases.

CDC officials said that 97% of U.S. cases are unvaccinated or those whose vaccination status is unknown.

Pediatricians and other doctors are pushing back against vaccine hesitancy and warning parents that vitamin A and other supplements touted by vaccine critics will not protect their children from the highly contagious and potentially fatal disease.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ke...asles-related-death-axios-reports-2025-04-06/
 
- Those antivaxers jabronis are the greatest treat to america and their own children.
 
LeonardoBjj said:

School-age child dies in Texas measles outbreak; health chief Kennedy now calls vaccine best protection​

By Kanishka Singh and Susan Heavey

  • Kennedy advocates for vaccine to protect against measles
  • Kennedy visits family of child who died
  • Senate committee hearing with Kennedy delayed from April 10
WASHINGTON, April 6 (Reuters) - A second child with measles has died in Texas, state officials said on Sunday, in an outbreak of the childhood disease that has resulted in nearly 500 cases in Texas and has spread across 22 states.

The school-aged child, who was unvaccinated and had no underlying health conditions, died on Thursday in the hospital from measles pulmonary failure, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.

"The child was receiving treatment for complications of measles while hospitalized," Aaron Davis, a spokesperson for UMC Health System in Lubbock, Texas, said in an email.

It is the second death of a child in Texas since the measles outbreak began in late January.

Health and Human Services Secretary Robert F. Kennedy Jr., in a post on X, identified the child as 8-year-old Daisy Hildebrand.

Kennedy, who has been an anti-vaccine advocate and previously has said vaccination is a personal choice, on Sunday said vaccines are the best protection against measles.

"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine," he said in the post on X. He said that as of Sunday there are 642 confirmed cases of measles, 499 of those in Texas.

Kennedy said in his post that he visited Texas to comfort the Hildebrand family after their daughter's death. He added that he got to know the family of the first child in Texas to die in the measles outbreak, Kayley Fehr, "after she passed away in February."

Kennedy said that teams from the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention have been redeployed to Texas at the request of the state's governor, Greg Abbott.

Kennedy has previously recommended Vitamin A as a measles treatment, along with good nutrition. While Vitamin A has been shown in some studies in developing countries to lessen the severity of symptoms, it can lead to liver toxicity in high quantities.

Kennedy's post about vaccines came after Republican U.S. Senator Bill Cassidy, who is also a physician and chair of the Senate health committee, wrote on X after the child's death was disclosed: "Everyone should be vaccinated."

"Top health officials should say so unequivocally b/4 another child dies," Cassidy wrote on X.

Cassidy had backed Kennedy's confirmation after Kennedy promised not to make changes to vaccine oversight.

The measles vaccine is 97% effective after two shots.

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on its website says the vaccine is "the best protection against measles," which spreads through the air when an infected person sneezes or coughs.

KENNEDY HEARING POSTPONED​

Cassidy last week called for Kennedy to appear before the Senate health committee on April 10 to discuss the U.S. health department's restructuring in which 10,000 people were being laid off, including from the Food and Drug Administration and the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But on Friday a committee official said the hearing would not occur on April 10 because seven days notice had not been given per committee procedure. No date has been set.

The Texas Department of State Health Services on Friday reported 59 new measles cases in three days, a 15% jump, for a total of 481 in the state since late January.

Related measles outbreaks have been reported in other states, including New Mexico and Oklahoma. In addition, an unvaccinated New Mexico adult tested positive for measles after dying in March.

As of Thursday, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reported a weekly nationwide increase of 124 measles cases, bringing the total to 607 so far this year. That compares to a nationwide total in 2024 of 285 reported cases.

CDC officials said that 97% of U.S. cases are unvaccinated or those whose vaccination status is unknown.

Pediatricians and other doctors are pushing back against vaccine hesitancy and warning parents that vitamin A and other supplements touted by vaccine critics will not protect their children from the highly contagious and potentially fatal disease.

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/ke...asles-related-death-axios-reports-2025-04-06/
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"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine."

Yeah, no shit you fucking idiot.
 
Siver! said:


"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine."

Yeah, no shit you fucking idiot.
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- And to think James Bond villains or the villains in Syphon Filter didnt needed all those elaborated plans. Just spread some conspiracies on social media.
 
LeonardoBjj said:
- And to think James Bond villains or the villains in Syphon Filter didnt needed all those elaborated plans. Just spread some conspiracies on social media.
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I'm so glad I saw CTard narratives for what they really were very early on.

Absolutely reprehensible and aimed solely at destabilization.
 
He also said he was engaging with officials there to "support Texas health officials and to learn how our HHS agencies can better partner with them to control the measles outbreak". Kennedy said he was deploying a team - as he did in March - to help distribute vaccines, medications and other supplies, among other support services.

"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine," Kennedy wrote.


Wasnt this supposed to be the worm infested lunatic ? Seems a decent enough pick
 
Anewt said:
He also said he was engaging with officials there to "support Texas health officials and to learn how our HHS agencies can better partner with them to control the measles outbreak". Kennedy said he was deploying a team - as he did in March - to help distribute vaccines, medications and other supplies, among other support services.

"The most effective way to prevent the spread of measles is the MMR vaccine," Kennedy wrote.


Wasnt this supposed to be the worm infested lunatic ? Seems a decent enough pick
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He's a terrible pick purely because he's associated with the anti-vax movement.

What's the point in hiring someone who has to work overtime just to right his past wrongs on this particular subject?





Two steps backward just to go one step forward?

Well, to be fair, given the tariff policy of Trump, that seems to be the entire stance of this present government lol
 
Siver! said:
He's a terrible pick purely because he's associated with the anti-vax movement.

What's the point in hiring someone who has to work overtime just to right his past wrongs on this particular subject?





Two steps backward just to go one step forward?

Well, to be fair, given the tariff policy of Trump, that seems to be the entire stance of this present government lol
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I dont think the vaccine thing is the biggest problem for americans health personally and he seems at least willing to bring attention to it. [ food lifestyle over prescription . etc etc]


Youll have more people who are anti vaxxer coming back from the extreme ends with him. I doubt another pick would bring those back, People evidently listen to him .


uk had 3 deaths from measels in 2023.
2 adults 1 child.

Through just the first few months of this year, Australia is on track for its worst year of measles since 2019. So far this year, 46 cases have been reported.

They literally are more vaccinated than us. It seems very politically motivated to try angle this as a failure of kennedy and a antivaxxer thing.

Uk vax rate

MMR vaccination coverage in England has declined for fifth consecutive year. NHS Digital data show that 83.9% of children in England had completed the two-dose course by their fifth birthday, down from 86.8% in 2019/202

Aus vax rate
Australia has a high vaccination rate against measles, with 93.76% of five-year-olds fully vaccinated, but rates have declined slightly in recent years, particularly among Indigenous children, and some areas are below the 95% target for herd immunity.

Usa vax rate

In 2023, the vaccination coverage rate for two doses of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine among children in kindergarten in the United States was 92.7%



This is usually a nothing story. Its nothing but politically motivated. The first child was sadly not vaccinated due to religous reasons... and those weirdos exist way to regulary ( have em in australia. Prefer to watch their kid die than use medication or go to the hospital )
 
Anewt said:
I dont think the vaccine thing is the biggest problem for americans health personally and he seems at least willing to bring attention to it. [ food lifestyle over prescription . etc etc]


Youll have more people who are anti vaxxer coming back from the extreme ends with him. I doubt another pick would bring those back, People evidently listen to him .


uk had 3 deaths from measels in 2023.
2 adults 1 child.

Through just the first few months of this year, Australia is on track for its worst year of measles since 2019. So far this year, 46 cases have been reported.

They literally are more vaccinated than us. It seems very politically motivated to try angle this as a failure of kennedy and a antivaxxer thing.

Uk vax rate

MMR vaccination coverage in England has declined for fifth consecutive year. NHS Digital data show that 83.9% of children in England had completed the two-dose course by their fifth birthday, down from 86.8% in 2019/202

Aus vax rate
Australia has a high vaccination rate against measles, with 93.76% of five-year-olds fully vaccinated, but rates have declined slightly in recent years, particularly among Indigenous children, and some areas are below the 95% target for herd immunity.

Usa vax rate

In 2023, the vaccination coverage rate for two doses of measles, mumps, and rubella (MMR) vaccine among children in kindergarten in the United States was 92.7%



This is usually a nothing story. Its nothing but politically motivated. The first child was sadly not vaccinated due to religous reasons... and those weirdos exist way to regulary ( have em in australia. Prefer to watch their kid die than use medication or go to the hospital )
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I hope you're right that people listen to him, but to be fair... it remains to be seen.

The problem he's got is literally anything RFK Jr says alongside the generic "get vaccinated" type statements will be interpreted by a bunch of his supporters as an excuse not to.

He says "Vitamin A can help the fight", so it's literally taken as an alternative by these people who are used to being told not vaccinating is fine. Get Vitamin A instead, problem solved.

I get what you're saying about bringing them back into the fold, but I can't believe he'll turn around any of the hardened skeptics. They've made their mind up and are calling him compromised lol

Those people are lost, sadly. Completely lost.
 
Siver! said:
He's a terrible pick purely because he's associated with the anti-vax movement.

What's the point in hiring someone who has to work overtime just to right his past wrongs on this particular subject?





Two steps backward just to go one step forward?

Well, to be fair, given the tariff policy of Trump, that seems to be the entire stance of this present government lol
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