STAR WARS: THE LAST JEDI

[Peteyandjia]

Sorry, I don't pay attention to clowns who don't even know the meaning of "protagonist."

The legendary Phantom Menace review is better than The Phantom Menace.

Fact.

 

[Guestx]

The legendary Phantom Menace review is better than The Phantom Menace.

Fact.

I watched 20 minutes of it today.

Legit lost all credibility when they say the film has no protagonist.

 

[Peteyandjia]

Ring theory. Everything repeats itself.

Spoiler

...into Hayden Christensen's mouf.

I thought 'Ring theory' was that sometimes American remakes can actually be better

 

[Guestx]

Ring theory. Everything repeats itself.

Spoiler

...into Hayden Christensen's mouf.

You and @Peteyandjia are some sick motherfuckers.

 

[Peteyandjia]

You and @Peteyandjia are some sick motherfuckers.

Hey at least we don't like the RE franchise.

A family member could legally get you committed for that.

 

[Lavitz]

RLM guys have such punchable faces.

 

[Guestx]

Hey at least we don't like the RE franchise.

A family member could legally get you committed for that.

It takes a keen eye to recognize the brilliance in the RE movies.

Don't worry, we can't all have it.

 

[BisexualMMA]

I watched 20 minutes of it today.

Legit lost all credibility when they say the film has no protagonist.

Wasn't your argument that the TRILOGY had Anakin as the protagonist. Did you find him to be the protagonist of the singular film The Phantom Menace?

 

[Guestx]

Wasn't your argument that the TRILOGY had Anakin as the protagonist. Did you find him to be the protagonist of the singular film The Phantom Menace?

Well The Phantom Menace is merely the first part of a multi-part story. It serves to introduce the protagonist, who the subsequent parts will develop.

If watching all the films recently really impressed anything upon me, it's that the whole thing is just one long story divided up into various parts. Some may do a better job than others of standing on their own, but it's just one story that's chopped into bite-sized pieces.

If you want to look at the prequel trilogy as a series that in some sense stands on its own, that's fine, but even then you have to understand that it's three individual pieces that basically make up one long film. You have Act I, Act II and Act III.

 

[Bonos]

Well The Phantom Menace is merely the first part of a multi-part story. It serves to introduce the protagonist, who the subsequent parts will develop.

If watching all the films recently really impressed anything upon me, it's that the whole thing is just one long story divided up into various parts. Some may do a better job than others of standing on their own, but it's just one story that's chopped into bite-sized pieces.

If you want to look at the prequel trilogy as a series that in some sense stands on its own, that's fine, but even then you have to understand that it's three individual pieces that basically make up one long film. You have Act I, Act II and Act III.

It's not like they were all shot at once. Also, Lucas was making up sh1t as he went along. Only the obvious ending was set in stone.

 

[GordoBarraBJJ]

Fifteen minute opening scene where Windu tracks down someone the Jedi deem too dangerous to be left alive and has a drink with him and pontificates on the meaning of life before breaking out the lightsaber.

I'm down.

And breaking the intergalactic record for most times Motherfucker is yelled.

 

[Guestx]

It's not like they were all shot at once. Also, Lucas was making up sh1t as he went along. Only the obvious ending was set in stone.

That doesn't change the fact that it's one long story and that to isolate the Phantom Menace, as if it stands in its own, is wrong.

The question here is: Does The Phantom Menace have a protagonist?

And the answer is yes, Anakin Skywalker. He's introduced in Phantom and then developed in Clones and Sith.

Those three films--TOGETHER--constitute the story of Anakin Skywalker's rise as a Jedi and subsequent turn to the dark side.

 

[Bonos]

When goof ball Yoda popped out and started giggling to himself and making jokes i literally thought i was either being trolled, or it was some sort of weird dream sequence.

I will not be surprised to see a "Tickle me Yoda" doll in the stores fairly soon.

That was the OT Yoda. The stoic prequel Yoda was boring.

While there is a lot of negative feedback, there are plenty of people liking TLJ more than any other entry besides the OT (Rogue One is all over the place in rankings). So i'm not crazy for liking it.

In hindsight TFA is the worst imo. TLJ was a success despite its baggage.

 

[Guestx]

That was the OT Yoda. The stoic prequel Yoda was boring.

While there is a lot of negative feedback, there are plenty of people liking TLJ more than any other entry besides the OT (Rogue One is all over the place in rankings). So i'm not crazy for liking it.

I listen to a film podcast called the Slashfilmcast and one of the hosts--who is a long-time Star Wars fanatic--says he thinks TLJ is the best Star Wars movie of all time. Not the best since the OT. Just the best. Period.

I don't share that view but it just goes to show you there are people out there who really do love this movie.

 

[Bonos]

I listen to a film podcast called the Slashfilmcast and one of the hosts--who is a long-time Star Wars fanatic--says he thinks TLJ is the best Star Wars movie of all time. Not the best since the OT. Just the best. Period.

I don't share that view but it just goes to show you there are people out there who really do love this movie.

I stopped listening to them (no real reason). i'm happy he liked it but he's wrong to have it outrank the OT...obviously lol

 

[Magooglie]

Mace Windu should have been a non-human.

 

[Amerikuracana]

That's surprising.

I haven't actually spoken to anyone who liked TLJ better.

5 of the 6 people I havevseen the movie with. 4 of them 8-15 year olds.

 

[Bonos]

If you liked that, you're gonna love this.

Amy Nicholson is a good critic. She's not a youtube hack.

and I don't think those women around K.Kennedy had any role in writing anything. But sure Kennedy can suck a big one.

 

[Bob Gray]

He bested Vader. That already puts him leagues above Ashoka and Obi Wan. TLJ handled Luke poorly.

But Luke even inside canon is still in the high tier. Slightly below Mace and Yoda but not far behind.

Johnson probably didn't care enough to expand on Luke and give him reconginiton.

Fair point on besting Vader. But still for the chosen one, Luke really didn't do much.He shouldn't be "behind" anybody. Luke and Vader should basically be anomalies when it comes to force users.

I understand he's "considered" high tier and all. My point is just that they don't show it. If you only watched the movies Luke doesn't even seem as powerful as prime Vader with that look in his mask.

The thing is, I feel like they're tearing down Luke for the wrong reasons. They're looking ahead and building the new "EU" from the ground up. That's cool and all. But they basically have to neuter Luke from reaching his potential and retcon the crap out of his EU because now Rey has to do all that shit. She's going to become the most powerful force user, train new Jedi, etc and basically do everything Luke has already done. It's silly. They can't just make Luke as strong as he should be, because then they have to make Rey even stronger. Rather than just have Luke be the apex.

 

[Aegon Spengler]

It's apparently silly "fan service" for people wanting to see Luke Skywalker actually use his light saber once in a Star Wars movie.

I mean, TFA literally ends with Rey handing Luke his light saber, ffs.
Lol Again...wanting to see the MASTER JEDI wield THE tool of a jedi is somehow crazy fan service.
Ok then.

He had a lightsaber fight you crybaby. Just cause he was astral projecting doesn’t mean you didn’t get to see one.