St. Louis minimum wage will drop from $10 to $7.70

[Rational Poster]

Raising minimum wage means you will not get 40 hours a week, this isn't hard to understand.

Glad to see I was spot on.

You haven't had a hard day of work in your life kid.

 

[Drenalin]

This is one of the most disgusting things I see coming from righties like @TheStruggle

Like someone who works 40+hrs at a burger joint doesn't deserve to also to able to afford to eat at the burger joint.

They have a incredibly condescending attitude toward the working poor that serve them food every day.

It makes me think people like @TheStruggle haven't had a hard day of work in their life.

It's like they enjoy having a lower class to shit on and make themselves feel better.

I lean more toward the right, but not on this issue. I believe the left shares blame here too. The left believe in taxing more & wasting more tax money. That same money could be left on the table for businesses to spend on their employees instead of giving it the government to blow.

 

[Witchhunt]

Wow, way to show everyone you don't know what you're talking about yet again.

A city setting a minimum wage has no effect on the size of the federal government.

Just shut up already... My point is the government trying to control too much.. But I wasn't talking to your dumb ass anyway.

 

[Rational Poster]

I lean more toward the right, but not on this issue. I believe the left shares blame here too. The left believe in taxing more & wasting more tax money. That same money could be left on the table for businesses to spend on their employees instead of giving it the government to blow.

I'm not even talking about this issue.

Just the attitude people take when discussing it, but particularly conservatives.

 

[Rational Poster]

Just shut up already... My point is the government trying to control too much.. But I wasn't talking to your dumb ass anyway.

Sorry you said something dumb and I pointed out how wrong your are and that hurts your feelings snowflake.

 

[Gregolian]

I work 40 hours a week at like 3 cents under $17 an hour and even I am thinking about getting a second job as either a bouncer again or maybe 2 part time jobs in addition to my full time job. Ugh.

FUCK having 37% of my goddamn check being taxed out.

The fact that I am a "white collar" worker as in I have to wear a suit to work every day... but still end up eating Ramen noodles, Easy mac, bacon, and scrounging leftovers once in awhile from the parentals across town is fucking infuriating.


WA state's cost of living is fucking retarded.

 

[Fawlty]

I was actually pleasantly surprised by the results in Seattle given it was such a dramatic shift. It seemed pretty obvious at the time that ~$13 would have been a sweeter spot, but of course it was as much a political virtue signaling as it was an earnest attempt at sensible policy.



And public transportation is shit, and the areas are fairly far away from just about anything you need service-wise. Best case scenario for a father of two children living in North City is that he gets a one-bedroom for $550 a month and only half of his earnings go directly to rent and transportation. The other $5,000-8,000 will have to feed and take care of the family for the year.

$550 exists there, but damn, that would be a really really bad spot. Good point about services & public trans. Both of which are expected to see cuts and canceled projects.

 

[KONG-D'SNT-TAP]

Lol @ working for $61 dollars a day in 2017. That's despicable

 

[TheStruggle]

I know that, but lowering the minimum wage isn't the answer. If minimum wage can't keep up with the cost of living, why would anyone bother working? If things continue to get worse, people won't even bother working & then small business won't have any employees. Theres comes a point when it no longer makes sense to work & I can see things reaching that point within the decade.

Let's be honest. This all boils down to taxes. The government taxes businesses & citizens so much that neither can afford to make it. Maybe if small businesses were taxed less, they could afford to pay $10 per hour. Then you have all the welfare people sponging off tax payers. Not to mention all of the other ways the gov blows tax money. I work at a section 8 apartment & I could make an opening documentary of all the tax money being abused

Minimum Wage was never suppose to be a living wage. You are not suppose to be able to support a family of 4 working at Carl Jrs. and Government inventions for the sake of compassion will only make things worse.

 

[The Diplomat]

Minimum Wage was never suppose to be a living wage. You are not suppose to be able to support a family of 4 working at Carl Jrs. and Government inventions for the sake of compassion will only make things worse.

In the 1950's, the medium rent was $42, with gas, milk and theater tickets being extremely cheap (roughly .30 cents a gallon). At a minimum wage of .75 cents an hour, it was still possible for one man to pay a month's worth of rent for a family of 4. Inflation went up a bit by the 60s, but still, a $1 an hour minimum wage job was capable of paying a months worth of rent in under 2 weeks of work.

I don't think raising the minimum wage will magically fix everything, but it IS true that inflation has far outpaced wages. That is an issue, and needs to be addressed somehow.

 

[Drenalin]

Minimum Wage was never suppose to be a living wage. You are not suppose to be able to support a family of 4 working at Carl Jrs. and Government inventions for the sake of compassion will only make things worse.

Really? I thought that's exactly why Roosevelt made the minimum wage. So that a person could make it on their own.

 

[Gregolian]

In the 1950's, the medium rent was $42, with gas, milk and theater tickets being extremely cheap (roughly .30 cents a gallon). At a minimum wage of 75 cents an hour, it was still possible for one man to pay a month's worth of rent for a family of 4. Inflation went up a bit by the 60s, but still, a $1 an hour minimum wage job was capable of paying a months worth of rent in under 2 weeks of work.

I don't think raising the minimum wage will magically fix everything, but it IS true that inflation has far outpaced wages. That is an issue, and needs to be addressed somehow.

I know it was initially a joke but the shit South Park made fun of with how they built up the area around Kenny's house to make it "more attractive" to outside investors is a very real thing.

We had a Whole Foods in my town open in an older part of town and promptly a bunch of fancy new age style apartments went up that's rent is fucking stupid high (like near $1000 a month for a 350 sq foot spot)... and said apartments are right next to trailer parks and Section 8 housing so those people are essentially being priced out not by rent but they can't afford anything near them for food and shit.

 

[Trotsky]

Raising minimum wage means you will not get 40 hours a week, this isn't hard to understand.

You're a moron. Raising minimum wage doesn't magically convert people working 40 hours to working 20. The exact amount of hours need to be served: so long as you're not paying overtime, there's no difference between two 20's and one 40, except that the former is wildly less efficient given the need to train and the tendency for productivity to be slow at the outset and end period of shifts. Will management try to eliminate labor and lower costs spent on labor to raise prices? Of course, they will be trying to do that always, always, always, and nothing is going to stop that. We can make sure that persons who give their time and earning hours to that enterprise be given a living wage, though.

Instead of us taxpayers subsidizing those employees' mere survival in the form of entitlements while the employer makes billions hand over hand.

You don't have an argument to stand on, as per usual. This is just a partisan reaction for you: your position was already cut out for you by persons smarter than you who profit off of your boot licking.

 

[Trotsky]

$550 exists there, but damn, that would be a really really bad spot. Good point about services & public trans. Both of which are expected to see cuts and canceled projects.

Yeah, that would be in an area like Hamilton Heights or Wells-Goodfellow. It makes me sick to think that persons are rotting in those areas while corporations suck up trillions of dollars and guys like some ppl itt blame urban blacks for being lazy or violent.

 

[TheStruggle]

You're a moron. Raising minimum wage doesn't magically convert people working 40 hours to working 20. The exact amount of hours need to be served: so long as you're not paying overtime, there's no difference between two 20's and one 40, except that the former is wildly less efficient given the need to train and the tendency for productivity to be slow at the outset and end period of shifts. Will management try to eliminate labor and lower costs spent on labor to raise prices? Of course, they will be trying to do that always, always, always, and nothing is going to stop that. We can make sure that persons who give their time and earning hours to that enterprise be given a living wage, though.

Instead of us taxpayers subsidizing those employees' mere survival in the form of entitlements while the employer makes billions hand over hand.

You don't have an argument to stand on, as per usual. This is just a partisan reaction for you: your position was already cut out for you by persons smarter than you who profit off of your boot licking.

Except the recent Obamacare mandates for business to ALSO cover insurance for all employees AS WELL as pay them more money, have changed the way part time businesses operate.

 

[Rational Poster]

Minimum Wage was never suppose to be a living wage. You are not suppose to be able to support a family of 4 working at Carl Jrs. and Government inventions for the sake of compassion will only make things worse.

lol you're so wrong it's requires this.

 

[emefer]

Minimum Wage was never suppose to be a living wage. You are not suppose to be able to support a family of 4 working at Carl Jrs. and Government inventions for the sake of compassion will only make things worse.

Thats exactly what it was supposed to be.
“No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.”- FDR

 

[Prutfis]

How much was taxes to pay for rapefugees ?

Effective tax rate was around 32%.

But that let me do a 6 year degree later on with 0 debt. And I have actual healthcare.

How much do you pay to the us military? Or all those black people you can't seem to control?
At least European leaders can claim ignorance when they imported 3rd world filth. You guys have had 200 plus fucking years and can't control your own citizens.

 

[emefer]

It's a good plan. Keep wages down so poor people will be forced to seek govt assistance, then rant about all the entitlements and how we need to cut them because the poor are lazy and taking advantage of tax payers and you can get the poor to hate the really poor.

 

[Trotsky]

It's a good plan. Keep wages down so poor people will be forced to seek govt assistance, then rant about all the entitlements and how we need to cut them because the poor are lazy and taking advantage of tax payers and you can get the poor to hate the really poor.

It's so disgusting, but so accurate. And it's happening right in front of people's eyes. Our country is wealthier than it has ever been--than any country has ever been--and yet the middle and lower classes just keep getting poorer. Yet we keep indoctrinating the scapegoating of the poor. I hate this country.