St. Louis minimum wage will drop from $10 to $7.70

[Falsedawn]

Like clockwork....

Apparently I was supposed to consider them the slave class?

And you guys whine over people "not caring about your issues".

<puh-lease75>

 

[TheStruggle]

Uh, no shit?

If not them, then who? Lmfao.

I don't think people working part time at Burger King is your textbook definition of working class. And raising minimum wage will only cut those people hours and will not get them more money

 

[TheStruggle]

Rent controls are a tough cookie to bite into though, there's no way that i've seen to do it gracefully. In ATX for instance, i'm (as a middle class person) finding myself priced out of Austin despite making more than enough to be self sufficient. I make too much for the controlled apartments, but not enough to live downtown without adjusting my lifestyle to an unreasonable degree. You risk pricing out the middle class instead of the poor, which can be more harmful to local economies. It's a hard issue to address.

That's what happens when you open your doors to Californians who bring their left wing policies to Texas and make it just as expensive as California. You better hope single payer dies here or you are getting new neighbors

 

[Falsedawn]

I don't think people working part time at Burger King is your textbook definition of working class. And raising minimum wage will only cut those people hours and will not get them more money

DEFINITION of 'Working Class'
A socioeconomic term used to describe persons in a social class marked by jobs that provide low pay, require limited skill and/or physical labor, and have reduced education requirements. Unemployed persons or those supported by a social welfare program are often included in this group.

Read more: Working Class http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/working-class.asp#ixzz4mAqzPAYe

working class
Socioeconomic class consisting of individuals that are paid an hourly wageand considered to be lower-middle class. Typically these individuals work blue-collar jobs such as manufacturing, retail sales, or food service. Also called lower class.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/working-class.html

work·ing class
ˈwərkiNG ˈˌklas/
noun

1. 1.
   the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
   "the housing needs of the working classes"

adjective

1. 1.
   relating to people belonging to the working class.
   "a working-class community"

https://www.google.com/search?q=working+class

<puh-lease75>

 

[TheStruggle]

There are no union members making minimum wage. They're concerned because they negotiate their wages off the area's prevailing non-union wages

"For me and so many others, that means going back to living paycheck to paycheck," Sierra Parker, an SEIU janitor, said in a statement released by the union."

He quote implies that he needs minimum wage which unions are suppose to neoigatie higher

 

[Falsedawn]

That's what happens when you open your doors to Californians who bring their left wing policies to Texas and make it just as expensive as California. You better hope single payer dies here or you are getting new neighbors

Pretty sure Austin becoming a tech hub and a mecca for skilled technical workers is what increased prices, but thanks for your uninformed input.

 

[Trotsky]

I expect there will be an uptick in jobs.

No, there won't be. The wage was only in affect for a few weeks.

This is really one of the most offensive and blatant shots at the urban poor by disaffected rural whites that I've seen. While I oppose Illinois proposed statewide minimum wage (because of the market variance between Chicago and rural Illinois), this was both a humble increase ($10) and done at the correct political level (municipal) that it wouldn't adversely affect rural markets and would provide desperately needed assistance to working class St. Louisans.

Honestly, wage floors should always be instated at the municipal or county level and should only be overridden in very clearly political or unreasonable scenarios. GOP congressmen from rural areas telling St. Louis it can't raise the wages of its workers is so fucking backwards that it perplexes me that someone could think it consistent with conservative and federalist principle. This bill affected them in no way, yet on principle they want to impoverish urbanites by infringing on the sovereignty of an independent city.

(For reference, St. Louis has a large amount of minimum wage jobs and the persons who assume those jobs are concentrated in very-dilapidated North City neighborhoods. For instance, in one of these neighborhoods the average household income is $20,000 and unemployment was 17%. The residents, the plurality of whom work in minimum wage positions, would benefit tremendously from a slight bump in the minimum wage and its reflection of the area's comparatively higher living costs. Instead, they continue to live in abject poverty.)

Anyone who tries to defend this is a piece of shit.

 

[Witchhunt]

Apparently I was supposed to consider them the slave class?

And you guys whine over people "not caring about your issues".

<puh-lease75>

"you guys".... ha...
I don't have any issues I want the gubment to fix. The bigger it gets, the more issues I have. That's true for everyone, they're just programmed to not see it.

 

[Lord Commander Palis]

Why does the GOP hate the working class?

I'm sorry you're going to get paid less now

 

[TheStruggle]

Pretty sure Austin becoming a tech hub and a mecca for skilled technical workers is what increased prices, but thanks for your uninformed input.

Yeah because that didn't happen in California too...

 

[Prutfis]

Loooool.

When I got out of high school in 95 and wanted to work a bit I built refrigerators for min wage. Made 35k a year for 37 hour weeks. With 6 weeks paid vacation.

 

[Falsedawn]

Yeah because that didn't happen in California too...

So if businesses came in and paid more, thus attracting people that make more, thus causing landlords to raise rent prices, why are you blaming "people from california" instead of the market?

Jesus, this is textbook supply and demand, but you're blaming California. You're a caricature.

 

[TheStruggle]

DEFINITION of 'Working Class'
A socioeconomic term used to describe persons in a social class marked by jobs that provide low pay, require limited skill and/or physical labor, and have reduced education requirements. Unemployed persons or those supported by a social welfare program are often included in this group.

Read more: Working Class http://www.investopedia.com/terms/w/working-class.asp#ixzz4mAqzPAYe

working class
Socioeconomic class consisting of individuals that are paid an hourly wageand considered to be lower-middle class. Typically these individuals work blue-collar jobs such as manufacturing, retail sales, or food service. Also called lower class.

http://www.businessdictionary.com/definition/working-class.html

work·ing class
ˈwərkiNG ˈˌklas/
noun

1. 1.
   the social group consisting of people who are employed for wages, especially in manual or industrial work.
   "the housing needs of the working classes"

adjective

1. 1.
   relating to people belonging to the working class.
   "a working-class community"

https://www.google.com/search?q=working+class

<puh-lease75>

Your own example implies more lower class than 'working class'. BTW You really side stepped the last sentence.

 

[lecter]

Excellent

 

[Offended]

Loooool.

When I got out of high school in 95 and wanted to work a bit I built refrigerators for min wage. Made 35k a year for 37 hour weeks. With 6 weeks paid vacation.

How much was taxes to pay for rapefugees ?

 

[Madmick]

No, there won't be. The wage was only in affect for a few weeks.

This is really one of the most offensive and blatant shots at the urban poor by disaffected rural whites that I've seen. While I oppose Illinois proposed statewide minimum wage (because of the market variance between Chicago and rural Illinois), this was both a humble increase ($10) and done at the correct political level (municipal) that it wouldn't adversely affect rural markets and would provide desperately needed assistance to working class St. Louisans.

Honestly, wage floors should always be instated at the municipal or county level and should only be overridden in very clearly political or unreasonable scenarios. GOP congressmen from rural areas telling St. Louis it can't raise the wages of its workers is so fucking backwards that it perplexes me that someone could think it consistent with conservative and federalist principle. This bill affected them in no way, yet on principle they want to impoverish urbanites by infringing on the sovereignty of an independent city.

(For reference, St. Louis has a large amount of minimum wage jobs and the persons who assume those jobs are concentrated in very-dilapidated North City neighborhoods. For instance, in one of these neighborhoods the average household income is $20,000 and unemployment was 17%. The residents, the plurality of whom work in minimum wage positions, would benefit tremendously from a slight bump in the minimum wage and its reflection of the area's comparatively higher living costs. Instead, they continue to live in abject poverty.)

Anyone who tries to defend this is a piece of shit.

Well, then I expect there won't be a downtick in jobs.

Look at what happened in Seattle. This should be fresh in the memory. I believe @TheStruggle himself also posted that thread, but I might be misrecollecting.

 

[Falsedawn]

Your own example implies more lower class than 'working class'. BTW You really side stepped the last sentence.

I'll accept your concession that you had no idea what working class meant. I'm not gonna entertain your little game further, your ignorance has been established.

 

[TheStruggle]

So if businesses came in and paid more, thus attracting people that make more, thus causing landlords to raise rent prices, why are you blaming "people from california" instead of the market?

Jesus, this is textbook supply and demand, but you're blaming California. You're a caricature.

Because those people politically created an atmosphere of higher taxes and high regulations that made business in California toxic and business in Texas appealing. Now those same people are creating the exact same atmosphere for Austin as the one that they left in the first place. pretend like the problem is 'too many people' is ignoring why those people left in the first place. It also explains why you prefer Austin to Dallas.

 

[Gervinho]

7.70....I would not work for that kind of money. I rather be a hustler than work for that kind of money

 

[Falsedawn]

Because those people politically created an atmosphere of higher taxes and high regulations that made business in California toxic and business in Texas appealing. Now those same people are creating the exact same atmosphere for Austin as the one that they left in the first place. pretend like the problem is 'too many people' is ignoring why those people left in the first place. It also explains why you prefer Austin to Dallas.

This makes literally no sense based on what I posted.