St. Louis minimum wage will drop from $10 to $7.70

[Drenalin]

I don't know what to think about this. You can't survive on your own with $7.70 per hour. And I think businesses can afford to pay $10. If not it's because either the employees aren't productive enough or the business isn't efficient enough with their spending. Or maybe the business just doesn't want to cut into their own profits.

Either way I don't care what job you have, if you put in 40 productive hours a week, you should be able to live on your own

 

[Gunny]

"For me and so many others, that means going back to living paycheck to paycheck," Sierra Parker, an SEIU janitor, said in a statement released by the union."

He quote implies that he needs minimum wage which unions are suppose to neoigatie higher

I just chalk that one up as a statement made at the intelligence level of an SEIU janitor. His union rep probably filled his brain with all sorts for similar bullshit

 

[Fawlty]

(For reference, St. Louis has a large amount of minimum wage jobs and the persons who assume those jobs are concentrated in very-dilapidated North City neighborhoods. For instance, in one of these neighborhoods the average household income is $20,000 and unemployment was 17%. The residents, the plurality of whom work in minimum wage positions, would benefit tremendously from a slight bump in the minimum wage and its reflection of the area's comparatively higher living costs. Instead, they continue to live in abject poverty.)

Anyone who tries to defend this is a piece of shit.

North City/County rent isn't cheap either. Even semi-shitholes that happen to be above "you will definitely get robbed" level will leave anybody completely strapped for cash even if they're working 2 min wage jobs. It's bad. $10 is a sweet spot imo.

 

[TheStruggle]

This makes literally no sense based on what I posted.

Because businesses didn't just walk in and paid more. You can't ignore why business is more appealing in Texas than California and how it got that way.

 

[Gregolian]

The issue with Seattle is that they may have gone too high, not that they raised it at all.

Also, since it's so recent, none of those analyses are concrete. I've seen the one you're referencing, as well as others that say that the increased pay is causing the working poor to spend more, thus injecting money into their local economy. It's far too soon to say definitively either way, though the issue is moreso to what degree to waise Min Wage vs actually raising it at all.

They raised it too fast, too quick, and without accounting for how the nat'l chains would respond by adding automation and shit to jobs that used to not have it.

 

[TheStruggle]

I don't know what to think about this. You can't survive on your own with $7.70 per hour. And I think businesses can afford to pay $10. If not it's because either the employees aren't productive enough or the business isn't efficient enough with their spending. Or maybe the business just doesn't want to cut into their own profits.

Either way I don't care what job you have, if you put in 40 productive hours a week, you should be able to live on your own

Not every business is run by 'MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES' the large majority of businesses that hire minimum wage employees are small businesses, the increase in payroll is what causes businesses to cut hours so now you are making $10 an hour but you are getting less hours per week which means only you are getting screwed

 

[AgonyandIrony]

SMH

Get a sales job, earn as much as you put in.

Hey lets give all lazy fucks free money, as long as its not from your wallet right ?

liberal are real giving with other peoples money.

let me guess, your hero is this guy.

[/QUOTE]

The autism is strong.

 

[Offended]

Get a sales job, earn as much as you put in.

Hey lets give all lazy fucks free money, as long as its not from your wallet right ?

liberal are real giving with other peoples money.

let me guess, your hero is this guy.

The autism is strong.[/QUOTE]

mental illness is strong with leftists.

Forbid people actually having to earn decent pay.

Hand outs hand out for all.

 

[Gregolian]

If @AgonyandIrony and @Offended could get their goddamn quote features figured out properly...

 

[VivaRevolution]

Missouri Gov. Eric Greitens said he will allow a bill that will repeal St. Louis' minimum wage to become law without his signature.

Greitens announced that he will not sign the bill, which creates a standard statewide minimum wage, but that the measure will go into law automatically Aug. 28 without his signature. Under the law, St. Louis' $10 an hour minimum wage will revert back to the statewide minimum wage of $7.70 an hour.

"Our state needs more private sector paychecks and bigger private sector paychecks," Greitens said in a statement about his decision to let the bill become law. "Politicians in St. Louis passed a bill that fails on both counts: it will kill jobs, and despite what you hear from liberals, it will take money out of people's pockets."

"This increase in the minimum wage might read pretty on paper, but it doesn't work in practice," Greitens said.

The Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Local 1 issued a statement saying the bill will take money out of the pockets of tens of thousands of working people.

"For me and so many others, that means going back to living paycheck to paycheck," Sierra Parker, an SEIU janitor, said in a statement released by the union.


https://www.bizjournals.com/stlouis...ealing-st-louis-minimum-wage-increase-to.html



So let me get this straight, you joined a union and the best you could do was Minimum wage???? You got fucking jobbed.

Yes, janitors don't have much bargaining power.

Are you under the impression that if you join a union, that the union magically gets to dictate to the employer terms?

 

[AgonyandIrony]

If @AgonyandIrony and @Offended could get their goddamn quote features figured out properly...

Mofo that wasnt me. I quoted his shitty quote lol. What do you take me for? Some kind of socialist that's going to fix someone elses mistakes?!

 

[Rational Poster]

"you guys".... ha...
I don't have any issues I want the gubment to fix. The bigger it gets, the more issues I have. That's true for everyone, they're just programmed to not see it.

Wow, way to show everyone you don't know what you're talking about yet again.

A city setting a minimum wage has no effect on the size of the federal government.

 

[VivaRevolution]

There are no union members making minimum wage. They're concerned because they negotiate their wages off the area's prevailing non-union wages

BS, you know nothing John Snow.

 

[Rational Poster]

I don't know what to think about this. You can't survive on your own with $7.70 per hour. And I think businesses can afford to pay $10. If not it's because either the employees aren't productive enough or the business isn't efficient enough with their spending. Or maybe the business just doesn't want to cut into their own profits.

Either way I don't care what job you have, if you put in 40 productive hours a week, you should be able to live on your own

This is one of the most disgusting things I see coming from righties like @TheStruggle

Like someone who works 40+hrs at a burger joint doesn't deserve to also be able to afford to eat at the burger joint.

They have a incredibly condescending attitude toward the working poor that serve them food every day.

It makes me think people like @TheStruggle haven't had a hard day of work in their life.

It's like they enjoy having a lower class to shit on and make themselves feel better.

 

[Gregolian]

Mofo that wasnt me. I quoted his shitty quote lol. What do you take me for? Some kind of socialist that's going to fix someone elses mistakes?!

His fuck up became yours too when your posts got all jacked while quoting his fucked up posts.... imo.

 

[VivaRevolution]

Seattles minimum wage laws costs low skilled over 120$ a month due to less openings and less hours.

you have to tackle the cost of living on the other side of the asset liability scale.

focus on lowering rent prices and people wont need to complain about 7$hr

how you lower rent in a fair and balanced way is not going to be easy though.

You obviously didn't read that article that said this. It was missing huge sets of data, like fast food chain restaurants. The article wasn't dishonest, but what people cherry picked from it is.

To be fair, their was a study a few weeks earlier that said the MW raise was doing great in Seattle. I just read the headline. I imagine if I look deeper into that, it will be the same kind of cherry picked info.

 

[Trotsky]

Well, then I expect there won't be a downtick in jobs.

Look at what happened in Seattle. This should be fresh in the memory. I believe @TheStruggle himself also posted that thread, but I might be misrecollecting.

I was actually pleasantly surprised by the results in Seattle given it was such a dramatic shift. It seemed pretty obvious at the time that ~$13 would have been a sweeter spot, but of course it was as much a political virtue signaling as it was an earnest attempt at sensible policy.

North City/County rent isn't cheap either. Even semi-shitholes that happen to be above "you will definitely get robbed" level will leave anybody completely strapped for cash even if they're working 2 min wage jobs. It's bad. $10 is a sweet spot imo.

And public transportation is shit, and the areas are fairly far away from just about anything you need service-wise. Best case scenario for a father of two children living in North City is that he gets a one-bedroom for $550 a month and only half of his earnings go directly to rent and transportation. The other $5,000-8,000 will have to feed and take care of the family for the year.

 

[TheStruggle]

This is one of the most disgusting things I see coming from righties like @TheStruggle

Like someone who works 40+hrs at a burger joint doesn't deserve to also to able to afford to eat at the burger joint.

They have a incredibly condescending attitude toward the working poor that serve them food every day.

It makes me think people like @TheStruggle haven't had a hard day of work in their life.

It's like they enjoy having a lower class to shit on and make themselves feel better.

Raising minimum wage means you will not get 40 hours a week, this isn't hard to understand.

 

[Drenalin]

Not every business is run by 'MILLIONAIRES AND BILLIONAIRES' the large majority of businesses that hire minimum wage employees are small businesses, the increase in payroll is what causes businesses to cut hours so now you are making $10 an hour but you are getting less hours per week which means only you are getting screwed

I know that, but lowering the minimum wage isn't the answer. If minimum wage can't keep up with the cost of living, why would anyone bother working? If things continue to get worse, people won't even bother working & then small business won't have any employees. Theres comes a point when it no longer makes sense to work & I can see things reaching that point within the decade.

Let's be honest. This all boils down to taxes. The government taxes businesses & citizens so much that neither can afford to make it. Maybe if small businesses were taxed less, they could afford to pay $10 per hour. Then you have all the welfare people sponging off tax payers. Not to mention all of the other ways the gov blows tax money. I work at a section 8 apartment & I could make an opening documentary of all the tax money being abused

 

[AgonyandIrony]

His fuck up became yours too when your posts got all jacked while quoting his fucked up posts.... imo.

Basically a metaphor tor America imo.