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St. Louis minimum wage will drop from $10 to $7.70

If you are not willing to put in the time and effort finding a good paying job then guess what, you are going to get paid minimum wage.

I would rather collect cans with all the homeless people than accept minimum wage. It probably pays more and you can drink on the job.
 
The government has the right to seize land in a time of war, and well pretty much whenever they feel like it, eminent domain, etc.

We also said sorry and paid them reparations, what else do you want us to do?

You all have no problem with eminent domain for the Keystone fucking pipeline, but suddenly it's an issue with dealing with 1st or 2nd generation immigrants from the most hostile nation conquering imperial rape machine the world has ever seen in a war of total annihilation.

Besides, this is a shitty argument. Just because FDR was a racist prick to the Japanese like 99% of everyone else in the entire world at the time, doesn't invalidate everything he did for this country and the entire planet.

Presentism, etc

You all suck.
Nice job making an assumption on how someone stands on a subject based on other subjects.

What's that called? Pre-judging someone right? Good job you stupid shit.
 
Nice job making an assumption on how someone stands on a subject based on other subjects.

What's that called? Pre-judging someone right? Good job you stupid shit.

Are you one of those silly freemen?
 
Are you one of those silly freemen?
Freemen? No idea what you're talking about. If you mean Sovereign Citizen then no... though I think it's hilarious to watch those guys scream "I do not consent" when a cop drags them out of a car for trying to run over a cop that was keeping them from leaving.

Just saying I love how certain posters (like you for example) think because I am a gun nut that I support what the cops did at Standing Rock.

I personally think eminent domain for anything OTHER than say needing to drive across someone's field for emergency services, the city needing to use it to access say a city water pipeline for repairs and things like that is horseshit. To me, in a layman way, it reads like "yeah, you own the land until we decide we need it more and we're the gov't so fuck off"
 
have no issues w/ this

if you're an adult w/ a minimum wage job.......you undoubtedly have made numerous, excessive poor life choices (well unless you're disabled).
 
Man this thread is a clusterfuck of finger pointing.


Anyone have actual answers as to what can be done about overtaxing (i.e. income tax, property tax so on) and inflation?


Seems to me if the government -on both sides- wasn't mismanaging what it actually got in taxes and wasn't so invested on keeping people divided we might be able to MAGA like motherfucking bandits here.

Nothing.

People who want to earn more will do it by being worth something and the old school magic of working harder smarter looking for and moving to better paying jobs.

Other should get low pay for low quality low brow type of work.
 
Nothing.

People who want to earn more will do it by being worth something and the old school magic of working harder smarter looking for and moving to better paying jobs.

Other should get low pay for low quality low brow type of work.



Minimum wage isn't the problem as far as the big picture goes. The sooner Democrat and Republican voters understand that, the better.


That aside -I agree that fast food workers and other low skill jobs aren't worth what people are trying to get for them. However I'm ok with Wendy's or McDonalds saying that they want to raise wages if that's how they feel as a company. I don't like it being forced tho.
 
Minimum wage isn't the problem as far as the big picture goes. The sooner Democrat and Republican voters understand that, the better.


That aside -I agree that fast food workers and other low skill jobs aren't worth what people are trying to get for them. However I'm ok with Wendy's or McDonalds saying that they want to raise wages if that's how they feel as a company. I don't like it being forced tho.

it is to all the fuckers that did harder more stressful jobs for 30ish% more then minimum wage. Now lazy worthless fucks will earn same while they wont magically get a same % bump.

add a boot in the ass of cost of everything going up.
 
Get with the program.

Right-wingers now consider people earning the MW glorified welfare recipients.

I just don't understand it. People who berate me with "This is why we got Trump. You looked down on us. You laughed at us." are in here being vindictive dicks to people who are less well off than they are, justifying it as essentially a culling of the herd. If I said half this shit about them, i'd be stomping on their fee fees though. I'm pretty sure an abject lack of empathy is a mental disorder.
 
Why does the GOP hate the working class?

Why is this hating the working class? The people this claimed to help actually resulted in them making less money and having less jobs and hours. Why do you hate facts but love talking out of your ass???

Oh, evidence to back up what I say.

Last Monday, a team of economists from the University of Washington delivered an unflattering early verdict on Seattle’s historic $15 minimum wage ordinance: The law, which has yet to fully phase in, was already hurting the very people it was meant to help. By making it more expensive to pay their employees, the researchers found, the city had led businesses to curb jobs and hours for low-wage workers, who as a result were earning an average of $125 less per month.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...e_backfiring_it_won_t_stop_the_fight_for.html
 
Why is this hating the working class? The people this claimed to help actually resulted in them making less money and having less jobs and hours. Why do you hate facts but love talking out of your ass???

Oh, evidence to back up what I say.

Last Monday, a team of economists from the University of Washington delivered an unflattering early verdict on Seattle’s historic $15 minimum wage ordinance: The law, which has yet to fully phase in, was already hurting the very people it was meant to help. By making it more expensive to pay their employees, the researchers found, the city had led businesses to curb jobs and hours for low-wage workers, who as a result were earning an average of $125 less per month.
http://www.slate.com/articles/busin...e_backfiring_it_won_t_stop_the_fight_for.html

The issue with Seattle is that they may have gone too high, not that they raised it at all.

Also, since it's so recent, none of those analyses are concrete. I've seen the one you're referencing, as well as others that say that the increased pay is causing the working poor to spend more, thus injecting money into their local economy. It's far too soon to say definitively either way, though the issue is moreso to what degree to raise Min Wage vs actually raising it at all.

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You'd think that slowly raising the minimum wage over time to adjust for inflation would have made more sense.
 
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