Size is more important than ever in UFC

Didn't seem to help 9-3 former-MW Catone cutting down from 215 lbs to WW against 15-7 Waldburger
 
Brock with his limited experience in MMA destroyed both Mir and couture who had years of MMA experience.

Nope size does not matter.

sincerely,
Small man
 
Brock with his limited experience in MMA destroyed both Mir and couture who had years of MMA experience.

Nope size does not matter.

sincerely,
Small man

Brock Lesnar was a NCAA wrestling champion and two-time NJCAA All-American, 1998 NJCAA Heavyweight Champion, two-time NCAA All-American, two-time Big Ten Conference Champion, and the 2000 NCAA heavyweight champion with a record of 106–5 overall in four years of college.

You cant be serious,

Brock wasnt a great MMA fighter at all but he had knowledge, he wasnt some john doe off the street.

He has more credentials then a lot of the fighters in MMA, he wasn't a great fighter but he had credentials.
 
^ Brock wouldn't have destroyed both Mir and Couture if he were their same size or slightly bigger.

In the Couture fight, for example, Brock was being "out-skilled" in the clinch. However, Couture had trouble taking down and keeping down Brock because he was just too big and strong, and Couture got worn out.

In the first fight against Mir, it was Brock's athleticism (fast reaction, speed, and power), not striking technique, that scored him a quick counter punch when Mir threw a leg kick. Brock was hammering Mir's face in guard, and only lost when he made an amateur mistake.

In the second fight, it was the same story. Brock used his brute strength and athleticism and dragged Mir to the ground after eating a knee. The only difference this time was that Brock took a crash course in sub defense, and it was all that it took for Brock to completely shut down Mir's ground game.

Do you honestly believe that a different fighter who had not the same size and level of athleticism that Brock had, would have been able to shut down Mir's ground game with just a few lessons in BJJ?

If size didn't matter, why do fighters cut weight?
If size didn't matter, why are there weight classes?
 
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^ Brock wouldn't have destroyed both Mir and Couture if he were their same size or slightly bigger.

Fedor wouldn't have gone on his epic win streak if his chin were made of glass.

Usain Bolt wouldn't win the 100 meters if he wasn't faster than everyone else.

If Lionel Messi had been born without legs he wouldn't be a very good footballer.

Care to add any more retarded and obvious statements to the list?
 
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Dont think so cause I just saw Reuben Duran get absolutely demolished by a guy who looked two weight classes smaller than him
 
Brock with his limited experience in MMA destroyed both Mir and couture who had years of MMA experience.

Nope size does not matter.

sincerely,
Small man

Yet both beat Tim Sylvia, Couture even dominated him.

Maybe there could be something different in the skillsets of Brock and Sylvia and styles have more of an impact than size more often than not.
 
Fedor wouldn't have gone on his epic win streak if his chin were made of glass.

Usain Bolt wouldn't win the 100 meters if he wasn't faster than everyone else.

If Lionel Messi had been born without legs he wouldn't be a very good footballer.

Care to add any more retarded and obvious statements to the list?

Fedor got destroyed by Big Foot Silva, sorry bro.

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Usain Bolt lost
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Messi tackled by a bigger man
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More and more, physical advantages are playing a role as the talent gets better.

BJ could beat lots of less skilled people, but if someone is as skilled as him and also has a reach advantage, of course that'll play a factor.

Once everyone's stats are all fairly even, physical attributes play bigger roles.

Thankfully, styles make fights, and its nearly impossible for the players to have top ranks in everything.

If you look at basketball, there was a time where height wasn't as important, because the guy could make a jump shot etc.

Now, height is just as crucial, because most of the NBA can make their jump shot.
 
^ Brock wouldn't have destroyed both Mir and Couture if he were their same size or slightly bigger.

In the Couture fight, for example, Brock was being "out-skilled" in the clinch. However, Couture had trouble taking down and keeping down Brock because he was just too big and strong, and Couture got worn out.

In the first fight against Mir, it was Brock's athleticism (fast reaction, speed, and power), not striking technique, that scored him a quick counter punch when Mir threw a leg kick. Brock was hammering Mir's face in guard, and only lost when he made an amateur mistake.

In the second fight, it was the same story. Brock used his brute strength and athleticism and dragged Mir to the ground after eating a knee. The only difference this time was that Brock took a crash course in sub defense, and it was all that it took for Brock to completely shut down Mir's ground game.

Do you honestly believe that a different fighter who had not the same level of size and athleticism that Brock had, would have been able to shut down Mir's ground game with just a few lessons in BJJ?

If size didn't matter, why do fighters cut weight?
If size didn't matter, why are there weight classes?

T-kimble is correct in his analogy.

If Fedor didnt have an iron chin he would of been knocked out a few times in his career and that is similar to Brocks genetic background.

If SIlva didnt have his hand eye coordination, superior reflexes and was not a athletic black guy, would he be as good as he is. Is it unfair for an nonathletic white guy to fight Silva.

Would jones be the same fighter if he didnt have his long arms but had JDS's chin and punching power.

Brock was a genetic freak of nature and a super athlete but that was his genetic makeup. Fighting is not always about who is more technically skilled it is at times who can utilize their genetic gifts the best.

All athletes have an advantage over non athletes, so making the case that Brocks athleticism won him the fight is silly because all athletic fighters have an edge over non athletic ones.

Height and reach all have equal advantages and disadvantages in terms of fighting as does too much weight.

In regards to Brock, most of the fighters in MMA are not over 20- 30 pounds heavier then their counterparts outside of the HW division and I think 15 pounds heavier is not that big of a deal in terms of fights and advantages in terms of athletes fighting athletes.
 
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T-kimble is correct in his analogy.

If Fedor didnt have an iron chin he would of been knocked out a few times in his career and that is similar to Brocks genetic background.

If SIlva didnt have his hand eye coordination, superior reflexes and was not a athletic black guy, would he be as good as he is. Is it unfair for an nonathletic white guy to fight Silva.

Would jones be the same fighter if he didnt have his long arms but had JDS's chin and punching power.

Brock was a genetic freak of nature and a super athlete but that was his genetic makeup. Fighting is not always about who is more technically skilled it is at times who can utilize their genetic gifts the best.

All athletes have an advantage over non athletes, so making the case that Brocks athleticism won him the fight is silly because all athletic fighters have an edge over non athletic ones.

Height and reach all have equal advantages and disadvantages in terms of fighting as does too much weight.

In regards to Brock, most of the fighters in MMA are not over 20- 30 pounds heavier then their counterparts outside of the HW division and I think 15 pounds heavier is not that big of a deal in terms of fights and advantages.

Exactly.

A lot of times people ignore the fact that your physical makeup is a part of your skill set.

Saying Jones wouldn't be as good if he didn't have such a long reach is as ridiculous as stating JDS or Fedor wouldn't be as good if they didn't have one punch KO power. Both things are skills that you can't really teach. You can teach them to refine their given physical tools with technique, but another HW can train and refine his skills all he wants, he's not going to have Fedor's natural punching power.
 
The GOAT, Anderson silva may be tall but he is not that big (muscular and thickness).

He uses skills, movement and technique not size

And pat barry a 5'10 HW just KO'd a bigger fighter.
 
Sdr was alot bigger than barry

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And it showed during their grappling exchanges. Pat couldn't shrug him off

Size does play a great factor in fights but anything can happen at any given moment

Just wanted to post here saying

YEAAAAAAAAA Was rooting hard for Pat" HD" Barry 2night

Glad he got his DUBLE U!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
I say more physicality then size for the most part, though there are exceptions. Rory over BJ was more a matter of size then physicality.

Yeah a matter of size...oh yeah and speed, and well roundedness, variety of techniques, and cardio...you forgot about those butthurt nut hugger
 
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