Silva vs St-Pierre the greatest fight that never was

[Woodstock99]

When has gsp ever lay and pray

 

[Colin]

I'm primarily a GSP fan. Much more than Silva.

But,

GSP is the one who dodged this fight. Which I think is a pity because he could have won it and have become the undisputed GOAT. GSP had alot less to lose than Silva in the fight so he really should have took the challenge

 

[Kertol]

Silva ducked GSP. He could’ve easily made WW. He was even originally being brought over to the UFC as a WW to fight Hughes.

The narrative is that GSP ducked him by not wanting to move up. But nobody talks about how Silva also refused to move down to fight him.

True that. Silva could of fought at WW he used to fight there. If Leon Scott could make WW but who is also 6’2 and more muscular than Silva then Silva could have as well.

 

[CRuck1980]

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Passed guard multiple times and had 2 deep submission attempts. Humorous memes don't count for facts

 

[CRuck1980]

I'm primarily a GSP fan. Much more than Silva.

But,

GSP is the one who dodged this fight. Which I think is a pity because he could have won it and have become the undisputed GOAT. GSP had alot less to lose than Silva in the fight so he really should have took the challenge

He didn't dodge anything, he stayed in his division and defended his belt. He was under no obligation to fight Silva

 

[Woodstock99]

Passed guard multiple times and had 2 deep submission attempts. Humorous memes don't count for facts

he could've finished the sub too but he chose to let it go for some more Lay and Pray

he passed guard because he could, the towel went horizontal nothing more

 

[Colin]

He didn't dodge anything, he stayed in his division and defended his belt. He was under no obligation to fight Silva

I'll refine my wording if you like.

If Jones avoids Stipe or the HW division in general and retires, I'll say he dodged it too.

GSP was never obliged to fight at MW or take part in any superfights but that doesn't mean he didn't dodge the possibility. The ufc wanted the fight as did the fans. He didn't want to take it. Which I feel is a shame.

I think GSP is the best (hardest to defear, most complete) ufc fighter ever btw so I'm not a hater.

 

[tramendous]

Personal preference but I would have much rather seen Randy vs undefeated Fedor than this fight.

I cant see how randy wins this fight. Dude had Chuck liddell problems.

 

[CRuck1980]

he could've finished the sub too but he chose to let it go for some more Lay and Pray

he passed guard because he could, the towel went horizontal nothing more

It doesn't matter if he could've finished or not, the fact is he remained active from top position, thus no lay n pray

 

[Woodstock99]

It doesn't matter if he could've finished or not, the fact is he remained active from top position, thus no lay n pray

so you're upset about people incorrectly using the definition when you know exactly what they are referring to?

what a waste of energy that is, but carry on

 

[CRuck1980]

I'll refine my wording if you like.

If Jones avoids Stipe or the HW division in general and retires, I'll say he dodged it too.

GSP was never obliged to fight at MW or take part in any superfights but that doesn't mean he didn't dodge the possibility. The ufc wanted the fight as did the fans. He didn't want to take it. Which I feel is a shame.

I think GSP is the best (hardest to defear, most complete) ufc fighter ever btw so I'm not a hater.

if Silva would have offered to make the drop to welterweight, I'm sure gsp would have taken the fight. Dodging is moving outta of the way, gsp simply did his job

 

[CRuck1980]

so you're upset about people incorrectly using the definition when you know exactly what they are referring to?

what a waste of energy that is, but carry on

lay and praying is stalling out for a decision, something he never did. Either you used a term you didn't understand or were trying to spread a false narrative. Either way you were wrong

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

George ducked Anderson Silva. Plain and simple

 

[fedoriswar37]

Fedor Brock.

 

[Intellidamus]

George ducked Anderson Silva. Plain and simple

Andy didn’t want to fight at 170. GSP wasn’t going to 185. Must be GSP’s fault.

 

[CRuck1980]

George ducked Anderson Silva. Plain and simple

Different divisions

 

[Sensei Student]

You'd think but it would've been a hug fest like DC vs Silva.

 

[Woodstock99]

lay and praying is stalling out for a decision, something he never did. Either you used a term you didn't understand or were trying to spread a false narrative. Either way you were wrong

but he did stall to a decision, he specifically chose it over finishing


and I wasn't conceding you're right, I was trying to understand you lol

 

[LockardTheGOAT]

Andy didn’t want to fight at 170. GSP wasn’t going to 185. Must be GSP’s fault.

Andy offered to fight at a catchweight of 175 or 180, but GSP was having none of it

 

[Mike]

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Failing to get a sub isn't remotely the same thing as lnp. LNP is holding on doing nothing, hoping you don't get stood up because you fear fighting there. GSP has never done that.