Crime Salman rushdie attacked on stage

[moosaev]

What is that scrolls of zion conspiracy. Can you elaborate?

Protocols of the Elders of Zion was an anti-Semitic screed that was written during Tzarist Russia, it was basically a document that purported to show the true intentions of Jews to destroy non Jews in Europe and Russia. Jews back then were very highly assimilated to European culture but the protocol claimed that it was all a ruse and conspiracy so that Jews could destroy those societies from within. This is exactly what’s being said about Muslims today in both Europe and America.

 

[UFCUCF]

Can’t trust the statistics, they are written in Arabic numerals.

 

[SandisLL]

Good maybe there can a way to have someone read the book and broadcast into Iran.

Not likely...
So called modern hindu and muslim or russian ortodox ppl under Kirill ...
Most likely does have mental and moral level like Pope had in 1198 th.....
Now is 2022 th....

I don't think that Pope had adapted enough , while it was big progress since 1198 th...

With chatolics blessed by Pope in 1198 th...these muslims, hindu and modern russian imperialists had get nice lecture: blessed by Pope Crusade to serve holy God in the heaven.

And then nasty mouths had been easily switched off with few nice nukes in some cool places...

Including Russia too btw .....easily....really easily...
No to talk about muslims and hindu respecting only brutal power and direct death threat, nothing else.Like russians...

 

[Be the ball]

Protocols of the Elders of Zion was an anti-Semitic screed that was written during Tzarist Russia, it was basically a document that purported to show the true intentions of Jews to destroy non Jews in Europe and Russia. Jews back then were very highly assimilated to European culture but the protocol claimed that it was all a ruse and conspiracy so that Jews could destroy those societies from within. This is exactly what’s being said about Muslims today in both Europe and America.

That is inderdasting thanks

 

[AristotleAmadopolis]

Plenty of Muslims don't believe in making perpetual war on believers, but Wahhabists sure do. War against non-believers, Shiites, Sufis and even Sunnis who don't subscribe to their version of Sunnism.


Is that legit? If so, that ain't good.

i found the thread from awhile back.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/khabib-interview-in-turkey-translation.3858341/page-3

i guess it's not a blatant isis support shirt, but it's a shirt specifically going out of the way to denounce charlie hebdo therefore approving the terrorism one can argue.

 

[moosaev]

i found the thread from awhile back.
https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/khabib-interview-in-turkey-translation.3858341/page-3

i guess it's not a blatant isis support shirt, but it's a shirt specifically going out of the way to denounce charlie hebdo therefore approving the terrorism one can argue.

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that shirt. You can condemn the attack on Hebdo without celebrating them, the context to that shirt is that the entire western world was celebrating Charlie Hebdo and trying to shame everyone into doing the same, predictably that inspired a backlash, hence the shirt. To say it's the same as supporting the attack is absolutely ludicrous.

 

[AristotleAmadopolis]

There's absolutely nothing wrong with that shirt. You can condemn the attack on Hebdo without celebrating them, the context to that shirt is that the entire western world was celebrating Charlie Hebdo and trying to shame everyone into doing the same, predictably that inspired a backlash, hence the shirt. To say it's the same as supporting the attack is absolutely ludicrous.

that’s one opinion.

 

[Bald1]

“If the data doesn’t agree with my conclusions, it must’ve been manipulated” - Bald1

Saying this while ignoring the Pew polls, the results of which come directly from the mounts of Muslims, takes a special kind of person.

 

[moosaev]

Saying this while ignoring the Pew polls, the results of which come directly from the mounts of Muslims, takes a special kind of person.

Why’re you citing the Pew polls? You don’t believe in data right?

Either way, I never claimed Pew Polls are manipulated. My position is that polls are inherently limited as a function for understanding complex topics such as what 1.8 billion people believe and what that means in terms of real world implications. What people like you like to do is take vague polls and do some kooky napkin math to conclude that there are 100 million potential terrorists or some other bullshit. Polls have no nuance whatsoever, you need a lot more than polls to back up the sweeping conclusions you draw. That’s a far cry from saying “any data that doesn’t agree with my conclusion is manipulated.”

 

[Bald1]

Why’re you citing the Pew polls? You don’t believe in data right?

Either way, I never claimed Pew Polls are manipulated. My position is that polls are inherently limited as a function for understanding complex topics such as what 1.8 billion people believe and what that should mean from a policy standpoint. Polls have no nuance whatsoever, you need a lot more than polls to back up the sweeping conclusions you draw. That’s a far cry from saying “any data that doesn’t agree with my conclusion is manipulated.”

There you go putting words into people's mouths again.

Statistics are easily manipulated. Poll results from reliable sources are just raw data that could be manipulated, ignored, or acknowledged. 1 out of 3 Muslims world wide think homosexuality should be illegal, for example. You could try to manipulate that number into meaning all sorts of things depending on geography, but when it holds true for UK Muslims I say there's a fucking problem.

 

[moosaev]

There you go putting words into people's mouths again.

Statistics are easily manipulated. Poll results from reliable sources are just raw data that could be manipulated, ignored, or acknowledged. 1 out of 3 Muslims world wide think homosexuality should be illegal, for example. You could try to manipulate that number into meaning all sorts of things depending on geography, but when it holds true for UK Muslims I say there's a fucking problem.

I’m willing to bet the poll results on homosexuality would be just as high or higher in conservative Eastern Europe, Latin America, Africa, even the Deep South US. My conclusion to that poll result is it’s a conservative culture thing, not just an islam thing. Like a Rorschach test you see Islam behind every image lol.

Ugandan President Museveni, a Christian:



Kenyan President (Christian) on keeping homosexuality illegal:

 

[Bald1]

I’m willing to bet the poll results on homosexuality would be just as high or higher in conservative Eastern Europe, Latin America, Africa, even the Deep South US. My conclusion to that poll result is it’s a conservative culture thing, not just an islam thing. Like a Rorschach test you see Islam behind every image lol.

Ugandan President Museveni, a Christian:

Get back to me when those places are actively killing homosexuals or forcing them to undergo sex changes or face death.

 

[moosaev]

Get back to me when those places are actively killing homosexuals or forcing them to undergo sex changes or face death.

Looool. You really are a moron. Talking shit about stuff you know ZERO about.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...osing-death-penalty-for-gay-sex-idUSKBN1WP1GN

Uganda plans bill imposing death penalty for gay sex
By Nita Bhalla

5 MIN READ

NAIROBI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Uganda announced plans on Thursday for a bill that would impose the death penalty on homosexuals, saying the legislation would curb a rise in unnatural sex in the east African nation.

 

[Bald1]

Looool. You really are a moron. Talking shit about stuff you know ZERO about.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...osing-death-penalty-for-gay-sex-idUSKBN1WP1GN

Uganda plans bill imposing death penalty for gay sex
By Nita Bhalla

5 MIN READ

NAIROBI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Uganda announced plans on Thursday for a bill that would impose the death penalty on homosexuals, saying the legislation would curb a rise in unnatural sex in the east African nation.

So Uganda is your yardstick? And while they're planning on making such laws how many gay people in SA will be thrown off rooftops, or be snipped in Iran, or stoned to death in various repressive Islamic shit holes?

Meanwhile, in most of the other places you mentioned they, at least in letter of law, have equal rights. State sanctioned and state sponsored violence is on a whole nother level from individuals acting like caveman. But hey, under Islam you get both in many cases. Moron? Lol.

Edit: point being, human rights typically get flushed down the shitter when Islam becomes the ruling force. Women's rights, minority religous rights, gay rights, and free speech are always lessened. This isn't a point that can be argued against with any sort of honesty.

 

[Islam Imamate]

Looool. You really are a moron. Talking shit about stuff you know ZERO about.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-...osing-death-penalty-for-gay-sex-idUSKBN1WP1GN

Uganda plans bill imposing death penalty for gay sex
By Nita Bhalla

5 MIN READ

NAIROBI (Thomson Reuters Foundation) - Uganda announced plans on Thursday for a bill that would impose the death penalty on homosexuals, saying the legislation would curb a rise in unnatural sex in the east African nation.

Thought it was common knowledge that Uganada is terrible for teh gheyz but guess not. They tried to push this law some years ago but Western powers threatened to cut off aid so the government killed it on a technicality even though its unfortunately a popular measure over there. This triggered a debate at the time of whether its legitimate for Western countries to meddle in the domestic affairs of the nations it sends aid to, the kind of "sovereignty" argument we hear from EU skeptics except in this case it was in defense of the death penalty for homos so not as compelling you can imagine.

 

[So Fresh]

So Uganda is your yardstick? And while they're planning on making such laws how many gay people in SA will be thrown off rooftops, or be snipped in Iran, or stoned to death in various repressive Islamic shit holes?

Meanwhile, in most of the other places you mentioned they, at least in letter of law, have equal rights. State sanctioned and state sponsored violence is on a whole nother level from individuals acting like caveman. But hey, under Islam you get both in many cases. Moron? Lol.

Edit: point being, human rights typically get flushed down the shitter when Islam becomes the ruling force. Women's rights, minority religous rights, gay rights, and free speech are always lessened. This isn't a point that can be argued against with any sort of honesty.

Kind of when (christian) conservatives become a ruling force

 

[So Fresh]

I was reading some background on lhgbtq violence

turns out most of american states still have this in play
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

Brazil, a leading lhgbtq rights country in Latin America has opposition from a certain side, and you’ll never guess which side

Spoiler: SURPRISE

The main opponents of the advances of the gay rights movement in Brazil have generally been conservatives. Religion is the most cited reason for opposing gay rights. Regionally, opposition to the gay rights movement has been strongest in rural interior regions.

A national study from 2005 found that 80% of the Brazilian population opposed homosexuality and another survey in 2010 found that 63% of the population opposed civil unions between homosexual couples.[177] Followers of the Catholic and Protestant faiths, specifically the Pentecostal and historical Protestant denominations, are the most likely to oppose homosexuality.

 

[oldshadow]

I was reading some background on lhgbtq violence

turns out most of american states still have this in play
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gay_panic_defense

Brazil, a leading lhgbtq rights country in Latin America has opposition from a certain side, and you’ll never guess which side

Spoiler: SURPRISE

The main opponents of the advances of the gay rights movement in Brazil have generally been conservatives. Religion is the most cited reason for opposing gay rights. Regionally, opposition to the gay rights movement has been strongest in rural interior regions.

A national study from 2005 found that 80% of the Brazilian population opposed homosexuality and another survey in 2010 found that 63% of the population opposed civil unions between homosexual couples.[177] Followers of the Catholic and Protestant faiths, specifically the Pentecostal and historical Protestant denominations, are the most likely to oppose homosexuality.

Not a valid defense for murder but it is for a limited assault in certain situations.

 

[Bald1]

Kind of when (christian) conservatives become a ruling force

Even if you ignore that I'm consistently calling out christians for being intolerant, you seem hell bent on overlooking the fact that in the overwhelming majority of christian countries there's human rights laws in place to protect minorities.

Once again, state sanctioned and enforced vs against the law persecution.

Religion has no place in government as far as I'm concerned. At least not in free and pluralistic societies.

 

[So Fresh]

Not a valid defense for murder but it is for a limited assault in certain situations.

Cause self defence laws aren’t enough? This is based in pure homophobia, and any federal legislation to ban this practice is being blocked. I mean if we are talking about gov meddling in these kind of things.