Crime Salman rushdie attacked on stage

[Kforcer]

Who’s endorsing that?

Also, Saudi Arabia is 0.16 percent of the global Muslim population, statistically insignificant. Get a grip, they in no way should define islam. Indonesia has more of a claim for defining Islam than they do.

Clearly, you are endorsing it. You don't think anyone should be upset about it and you think that anyone who complains about is somehow apathetic to

but was told that didn't violate Twitter's guidelines.

Wow.

 

[Kforcer]

Who’s endorsing that?

Also, Saudi Arabia is 0.16 percent of the global Muslim population, statistically insignificant. Get a grip, they in no way should define islam. Indonesia has more of a claim for defining Islam than they do.

Who's endorsing it...? You, clearly. You're the one trying to argue that anyone upset about Rushdie's attack is essentially a bigot who is apathetic to the suffering of Muslims. Rather than simply bemoan the evil attack of an elderly man, you've attempted to justify it as the consequences of Rushdie's speech with your absurd take that "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences."

Don't play silly semantic games.

And as far as Saudi Arabia; clearly, their influence and their power stretches far beyond their statistical representation. What is it that is located in Saudi Arabia, aside from a ton of oil...? I think you know. Starts with an "M." Its kind of a big deal. But anyway, I never said Wahhabism represents the majority of Muslims; but its definitely not insignificant. That'd be like saying MS-13 is insignificant because most Mexicans aren't members, or that the KKK was unimportant in its heyday because most whites weren't members.

But all that is beside the point. An old man has been stabbed in the neck and all rational indications are that you think it was justified.

 

[TheMaster]

You are crying about a joke about a person you don’t know lol

Then have the audacity to say embrace free speech without realising your own previous posts lol

I'm not bothered by the joke even if it was bad taste.
I don't need to personally know him to have sympathy for him you ingrate. Also what he stands for and the principle is even more important.

Muhammadism is a very flimsy and weak religion despite the front they put on, and the insecurity and fear they show about any criticism shows this. It's always been this way, a pathetically weak ideology that relied on threats and violence to survive - starting with threats to their own members for questioning or leaving it.

Trouble is that doesn't work anymore because:

a) The internet and education is revealing the truth about Islams farcial ideology and rules and fake history (eg Mecca likely didn't even exist at the time of Muhammad, the lies go on and on)


b) The threat and violence and war thing doesn't work anymore because the scientific revolution happened in the West (thank God) and so they would get obliterated in any direct combat and they know it so they generally stfu and behave outside their own zones of influence apart from idiots like this attacker.

Also none of my previous posts have any issue with free speech that's the whole point - we can take words you can't.

Free speech is a threat to Islam's very existence, that's how weak a religion and ideology it really is.

 

[Kforcer]

Who’s endorsing that?

Also, Saudi Arabia is 0.16 percent of the global Muslim population, statistically insignificant. Get a grip, they in no way should define islam. Indonesia has more of a claim for defining Islam than they do.

Ooops, I'm sorry, man. I confused you with wadtucket, I think his name is. Sorry. I just scrolled through the posts. I got you two confused.

 

[So Fresh]

Who's endorsing it...? You, clearly. You're the one trying to argue that anyone upset about Rushdie's attack is essentially a bigot who is apathetic to the suffering of Muslims. Rather than simply bemoan the evil attack of an elderly man, you've attempted to justify it as the consequences of Rushdie's speech with your absurd take that "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences."

Don't play silly semantic games.

And as far as Saudi Arabia; clearly, their influence and their power stretches far beyond their statistical representation. What is it that is located in Saudi Arabia, aside from a ton of oil...? I think you know. Starts with an "M." Its kind of a big deal. But anyway, I never said Wahhabism represents the majority of Muslims; but its definitely not insignificant. That'd be like saying MS-13 is insignificant because most Mexicans aren't members, or that the KKK was unimportant in its heyday because most whites weren't members.

But all that is beside the point. An old man has been stabbed in the neck and all rational indications are that you think it was justified.

You know MS13 isn’t mexican right.. it’s El Salvador..

 

[Kforcer]

You know MS13 isn’t mexican right.. it’s El Salvador..

Well, I know now, anyways.

 

[moosaev]

Who's endorsing it...? You, clearly. You're the one trying to argue that anyone upset about Rushdie's attack is essentially a bigot who is apathetic to the suffering of Muslims. Rather than simply bemoan the evil attack of an elderly man, you've attempted to justify it as the consequences of Rushdie's speech with your absurd take that "freedom of speech is not freedom from consequences."

Don't play silly semantic games.

And as far as Saudi Arabia; clearly, their influence and their power stretches far beyond their statistical representation. What is it that is located in Saudi Arabia, aside from a ton of oil...? I think you know. Starts with an "M." Its kind of a big deal. But anyway, I never said Wahhabism represents the majority of Muslims; but its definitely not insignificant. That'd be like saying MS-13 is insignificant because most Mexicans aren't members, or that the KKK was unimportant in its heyday because most whites weren't members.

But all that is beside the point. An old man has been stabbed in the neck and all rational indications are that you think it was justified.

You’re totally unhinged if you think anything I’ve said is tantamount to supporting the Rushdie. Seek some help and get on meds, seriously, you’re delusional.

 

[Kforcer]

You’re totally unhinged if you think anything I’ve said is tantamount to supporting the Rushdie. Seek some help and get on meds, seriously, you’re delusional.

I did confuse you with wadtucket, who essentially seemed to be justifying the attack on Rushdie. That was my mistake.

 

[tastaylvr]

I'm not bothered by the joke even if it was bad taste.
I don't need to personally know him to have sympathy for him you ingrate. Also what he stands for and the principle is even more important.

Muhammadism is a very flimsy and weak religion despite the front they put on, and the insecurity and fear they show about any criticism shows this. It's always been this way, a pathetically weak ideology that relied on threats and violence to survive - starting with threats to their own members for questioning or leaving it.

Trouble is that doesn't work anymore because:

a) The internet and education is revealing the truth about Islams farcial ideology and rules and fake history (eg Mecca likely didn't even exist at the time of Muhammad, the lies go on and on)


b) The threat and violence and war thing doesn't work anymore because the scientific revolution happened in the West (thank God) and so they would get obliterated in any direct combat and they know it so they generally stfu and behave outside their own zones of influence apart from idiots like this attacker.

Also none of my previous posts have any issue with free speech that's the whole point - we can take words you can't.

Free speech is a threat to Islam's very existence, that's how weak a religion and ideology it really is.

Bro are you retarded? Nobody denies that Islam is a shit religion like all religions

The distinction is raised when people so far away from Islam make it their life's mission to defeat something that has nothing to do with them. People like you think Islam is the reason your life is shit. Islam has zero influence over your life and you are still so deranged as to make multiple threads about what happens to them or what they do.

You actually think Western free speech is in danger due to Islam? just what the fuck is wrong with you lol

Can you imagine if Muslims who actually get bombed by Western intervention behaved like you? People with real grievances? You spend your whole waking day trying to fight a religion that does nothing to you lol What would happen if the Afghani/Iraqi kids acted like you when they got bombed for no reason?

If even 1% of Muslim kids who got their parents killed due to western invention thought like you then the world would be a scary place

 

[Wadtucket]

Rushdie's agent released a statement saying he's been taken off the ventilator, but he faces a long road to recover from his injuries.

He was spared by Allah (pbuh)

Maybe he will have finally learned his lesson and he will stop his ceaseless attack on the Ummah

 

[THEfightsAREfixed]

Kind of inevitable if you think about it and that kind of begs the question of why he wasn’t wearing any neck armoring?

 

[Bald1]

Bro are you retarded? Nobody denies that Islam is a shit religion like all religions

The distinction is raised when people so far away from Islam make it their life's mission to defeat something that has nothing to do with them. People like you think Islam is the reason your life is shit. Islam has zero influence over your life and you are still so deranged as to make multiple threads about what happens to them or what they do.

You actually think Western free speech is in danger due to Islam? just what the fuck is wrong with you lol

Can you imagine if Muslims who actually get bombed by Western intervention behaved like you? People with real grievances? You spend your whole waking day trying to fight a religion that does nothing to you lol What would happen if the Afghani/Iraqi kids acted like you when they got bombed for no reason?

If even 1% of Muslim kids who got their parents killed due to western invention thought like you then the world would be a scary place

As long as Islamic immigration is allowed to the west Islamic intolerance should be a concern.

This stabbing
Charlie Hebdo
French teacher decapitated
Pulse night club
Grooming gangs specifically targeting infidels
No go zones in fucking sweden
Rioting because someone burned their own books

Yeah, Christianity used to be just as intolerant and idiots like MTG are trying to bring that mindset back. So to hell with her and her supporters. But this mindset is a hell of a lot more prevalent within a religion who's founder was in support of the death penalty for apostasy. Something that's law in many Muslim countries. Us against them isn't a bug in Islam, it's a feature.

And this has fuck all to do with adventurism in the sand lot but is entirely based in their ideology, whereas it goes against christian scripture.

Once again, thankfully most Muslims are better than Islam. But that doesn't mean their ideology isn't on a whole other level as far as posing problems to free societies.

 

[moosaev]

Bro are you retarded? Nobody denies that Islam is a shit religion like all religions

The distinction is raised when people so far away from Islam make it their life's mission to defeat something that has nothing to do with them. People like you think Islam is the reason your life is shit. Islam has zero influence over your life and you are still so deranged as to make multiple threads about what happens to them or what they do.

You actually think Western free speech is in danger due to Islam? just what the fuck is wrong with you lol

Can you imagine if Muslims who actually get bombed by Western intervention behaved like you? People with real grievances? You spend your whole waking day trying to fight a religion that does nothing to you lol What would happen if the Afghani/Iraqi kids acted like you when they got bombed for no reason?

If even 1% of Muslim kids who got their parents killed due to western invention thought like you then the world would be a scary place

You make a great point, Muslims have more cause to fear non-Muslims than the other way around. When you consider how India is treating their Muslim minorities and all the pogroms the BJP government is inciting, how the Chinese are treating their Muslim minority which is tantamount to genocide, what the Rohingya went through in Burma which was a genocide, the ceaseless rhetorical demonization of Islam and Muslims in the West, the fact that America is simultaneously bombing at least 8 Muslim countries right now with tens of thousands of likely innocent collateral deaths from drone strikes alone. Over the last 20 years the Western alliance is either directly or indirectly responsible for over 1 million civilian deaths in the Muslim world. Who should be afraid of who?

 

[scoopj]

Ouch the Muslim fanatic’s own mother called him a basement dwelling incel and disowned him.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/mom-o...-hadi-matar-says-she-wont-speak-to-son-again/

 

[tastaylvr]

As long as Islamic immigration is allowed to the west Islamic intolerance should be a concern.

This stabbing
Charlie Hebdo
French teacher decapitated
Pulse night club
Grooming gangs specifically targeting infidels
No go zones in fucking sweden
Rioting because someone burned their own books

Yeah, Christianity used to be just as intolerant and idiots like MTG are trying to bring that mindset back. So to hell with her and her supporters. But this mindset is a hell of a lot more prevalent within a religion who's founder was in support of the death penalty for apostasy. Something that's law in many Muslim countries. Us against them isn't a bug in Islam, it's a feature.

And this has fuck all to do with adventurism in the sand lot but is entirely based in their ideology, whereas it goes against christian scripture.

Once again, thankfully most Muslims are better than Islam. But that doesn't mean their ideology isn't on a whole other level as far as posing problems to free societies.

You pick out random outliers and them blame a whole religion lol

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

What is the one common factor between the most dangerous cities? They are all Christian dominant

Then also when you look at international invasions of the world

Who does it the most and kills the most people? It's America who is a Christian nation

You make a great point, Muslims have more cause to fear non-Muslims than the other way around. When you consider how India is treating their Muslim minorities and all the pogroms the BJP government is inciting, how the Chinese are treating their Muslim minority which is tantamount to genocide, what the Rohingya went through in Burma which was a genocide, the ceaseless rhetorical demonization of Islam and Muslims in the West, the fact that America is simultaneously bombing at least 8 Muslim countries right now with tens of thousands of likely innocent collateral deaths from drone strikes alone. Over the last 20 years the Western alliance is either directly or indirectly responsible for over 1 million civilian deaths in the Muslim world. Who should be afraid of who?

facts lol but hey that one random stabbing is that much worse apparently ey

 

[Bald1]

You pick out random outliers and them blame a whole religion lol

https://www.statista.com/statistics...ities-in-the-world-by-murder-rate-per-capita/

What is the one common factor between the most dangerous cities? They are all Christian dominant

Then also when you look at international invasions of the world

Who does it the most and kills the most people? It's America who is a Christian nation



facts lol but hey that one random stabbing is that much worse apparently ey

They're not outliers when all the acts are specifically due to ideological motivators. You wanting to stick your head in the sand doesn't change that. But in a way Islam is an outlier due to the fact that no other religion has, or at least actively practices jihad or fatwas. Looks like you stumbled onto something you want to ignore. And those prone to extremism are more prone to act on those inclinations when supported but basis in their ideology.

There's a price on Rushdie's head pur there by by Islamic leaders because he insulted Islam and this attack was carried out in the name of Islam. But it has nothing to do, specifically, with Islam? This sort of delusional thinking is what some would have us believe.

 

[tastaylvr]

They're not outliers when all the acts are specifically due to ideological motivators. You wanting to stick your head in the sand doesn't change that. But in a way Islam is an outlier due to the fact that no other religion has, or at least actively practices jihad or fatwas. Looks like you stumbled onto something you want to ignore. And those prone to extremism are more prone to act on those inclinations when supported but basis in their ideology.

There's a price on Rushdie's head pur there by by Islamic leaders because he insulted Islam and this attack was carried out in the name of Islam. But it has nothing to do, specifically, with Islam? This sort of delusional thinking is what some would have us believe.

Because you hide from objective reality

The statistics are not on your side

You can write all this shit about how dangerous Islam is but when you look at the numbers it just doesn't add up

Violence occurs every single day for numerous reasons but where are the places where people die the most per capita? Is it in Islamic countries or Christian ones?

https://ourworldindata.org/homicides#the-global-distribution-of-homicides

Where do the most homicides happen in the world?

"The scale of homicide is even more pronounced when we focus on deaths for younger adults. Across the total population homicides are a large cause of death, but are not one of the leading causes globally.

But homicides are a leading cause of death in younger adults. In the chart here we show causes of death – again sourced from the Global Burden of Disease study, published in the medical journal The Lancet – for adults aged 15 to 49 years old.3

We see that homicide ranks within the top ten causes of death globally. Using the “change country” toggle you can explore this data for countries and regions.

In Latin America homicides are the leading cause of death in 15 to 49 year olds. Twice as many young adults die from homicide as from road accidents. In Honduras, it’s four times as many.4"

All those Christian dominated countries seem to be the most dangerous places to live

What about all the Muslim countries? Iraq is a war torn country and they have less deaths than Mexico/Columbia/Brazil/etc

Why do these dominant Christian countries not safer than Islamic countries?

In the last 10 years there have only been like 150 deaths due to Islam in all of Europe. All of fucking Europe.

Open your eyes for once lol you are blinded by igornace

 

[Bald1]

Because you hide from objective reality

The statistics are not on your side

You can write all this shit about how dangerous Islam is but when you look at the numbers it just doesn't add up

Violence occurs every single day for numerous reasons but where are the places where people die the most per capita? Is it in Islamic countries or Christian ones?

https://ourworldindata.org/homicides#the-global-distribution-of-homicides

Where do the most homicides happen in the world?

"The scale of homicide is even more pronounced when we focus on deaths for younger adults. Across the total population homicides are a large cause of death, but are not one of the leading causes globally.

But homicides are a leading cause of death in younger adults. In the chart here we show causes of death – again sourced from the Global Burden of Disease study, published in the medical journal The Lancet – for adults aged 15 to 49 years old.3

We see that homicide ranks within the top ten causes of death globally. Using the “change country” toggle you can explore this data for countries and regions.

In Latin America homicides are the leading cause of death in 15 to 49 year olds. Twice as many young adults die from homicide as from road accidents. In Honduras, it’s four times as many.4"

All those Christian dominated countries seem to be the most dangerous places to live

What about all the Muslim countries? Iraq is a war torn country and they have less deaths than Mexico/Columbia/Brazil/etc

Why do these dominant Christian countries not safer than Islamic countries?

In the last 10 years there have only been like 150 deaths due to Islam in all of Europe. All of fucking Europe.

Open your eyes for once lol you are blinded by igornace

A wall of text trying to convince me that ideology doesn't matter in a thread about an attack motivated by ideology.

 

[moosaev]

A wall of text trying to convince me that ideology doesn't matter in a thread about an attack motivated by ideology.

Ideology does matter but plenty of ideologies are weaponized to inflict harm, it happens every day. Islam is not distinct in the slightest in this regard. You’re framing islam as this super duper special case but it’s not. You’re just triggered by it because you’re a bigot and it makes you feel morally superior to call out islam. Your bigotry is also probably causing you to dramatically overestimate the threat of Islamic extremism. You think your narrative is objective truth but it’s not.

 

[tastaylvr]

A wall of text trying to convince me that ideology doesn't matter in a thread about an attack motivated by ideology.

You always ignore the most obvious facts lol

Why can't you back up your words with data? Why is it just ramblings? So what if this one person was motivated by the religion? What about the total effect of the religion? Crazy people do crazy shit every day in the name of whatever excuse they can muster

You are trying paint Islam in a way that is not backed up in the real world

Do we ban cars now because there is a car crash here and there?

If Islam was as dangerous as you proclaim then the data would back up your assertions however it doesn't.