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[Bald1]

Ideology does matter but plenty of ideologies are weaponized to inflict harm, it happens every day. Islam is not distinct in the slightest in this regard. You’re framing islam as this super duper special case but it’s not. You’re just triggered by it because you’re a bigot and it makes you feel morally superior to call out islam. Your bigotry is also probably causing you to dramatically overestimate the threat of Islamic extremism. You think your narrative is objective truth but it’s not.

Lol. I'm heartbroken the racist who keeps asking the question "what about white people" thinks I'm a bigot.

Islam, like any other supremacist and intolerant ideology sucks. Unlike you I'll come out and speak my mind and will deal with the consequences.

You always ignore the most obvious facts lol

Why can't you back up your words with data? Why is it just ramblings? So what if this one person was motivated by the religion? What about the total effect of the religion? Crazy people do crazy shit every day in the name of whatever excuse they can muster

You are trying paint Islam in a way that is not backed up in the real world

Do we ban cars now because there is a car crash here and there?

If Islam was as dangerous as you proclaim then the data would back up your assertions however it doesn't.

Data can be and is always manipulated. We've seen this play out in real time over the last few years with Covid. The examples I cited are historical facts.

Where was the data on grooming gangs for decades when they raped tens of thousands of infidels?

But if you want to actually look at statistics there's the pew polls indicating scant tolerance for things we accept as normal within the Islamic world. And Muslims as a community, world wide, work to enforce those rules within their communities. Myopic fools focus on violence, or physical safety above all other considerations. Only hypocritical myopic fools take acception to seeing criticisms of such social norms when levied against one ideology while accepting those criticisms against another.

So blow me.

 

[Kforcer]

Ouch the Muslim fanatic’s own mother called him a basement dwelling incel and disowned him.

https://nypost.com/2022/08/14/mom-o...-hadi-matar-says-she-wont-speak-to-son-again/

We could use more women like this that hold their children responsible for their actions, instead of parents who excuse violent criminal behavior.

 

[KeithHackneyballpunch]

Who’s endorsing that?

Also, Saudi Arabia is 0.16 percent of the global Muslim population, statistically insignificant. Get a grip, they in no way should define islam. Indonesia has more of a claim for defining Islam than they do.

Saudi Arabia is the home of Mecca and Medina. They do carry weight in determining what is true Islam or defining it

 

[Bald1]

Saudi Arabia is the home of Mecca and Medina. They do carry weight in determining what is true Islam or defining it

And to be fair Islam would be in a much better state globally if not for the House of Saud. It's no secret they're building and sponsoring Wahabist mosques all over the place. And with that comes the fact that our support for that terrorist family makes us complicit. We're filling their pockets, they're slowly stabbing us in the back and actively working to return Islam to it's barbaric roots while the Vatican is making moves to atone for the past.

 

[tastaylvr]

Data can be and is always manipulated. We've seen this play out in real time over the last few years with Covid. The examples I cited are historical facts.

Where was the data on grooming gangs for decades when they raped tens of thousands of infidels?

But if you want to actually look at statistics there's the pew polls indicating scant tolerance for things we accept as normal within the Islamic world. And Muslims as a community, world wide, work to enforce those rules within their communities. Myopic fools focus on violence, or physical safety above all other considerations. Only hypocritical myopic fools take acception to seeing criticisms of such social norms when levied against one ideology while accepting those criticisms against another.

So blow me.

You have gone into full blown looney territory. You won't even look at my global crime statistics page because it can be "manipulated"? Which global super power is manipulating data in favour of Islam? You seem to be under this misguided perception that the world is trying to make Islam look better than it is when it is the complete opposite. Where was this global muslim conspiracy when the middle east got butt fucked for decades?

You are living a sad existence at the moment where your mind can never be changed

You believe Islam is evil and it is making your life worse and if shown any data to the contrary you just reply with "fake news" and move on lol

There is no global conspiracy against you bro to make you love Islam lol

 

[Kforcer]

Saudi Arabia is the home of Mecca and Medina. They do carry weight in determining what is true Islam or defining it

Yup. Not to mention, they've got money. Saudi Arabia has always had tons of militant proxies to fight its battles throughout the Middle East.

 

[So Fresh]

Islamophobes always try to put Islam in some sort of vaccuum. It’s especially funny when they put them against the catholics or any other christian religion as if they are some kind of beacon of morality and Islam is some barbaric offspring. It’s bigotry disguised as criticism.

 

[So Fresh]

Let’s not forget they always act like Islam is a homogeneous group of people.

 

[Bald1]

You have gone into full blown looney territory. You won't even look at my global crime statistics page because it can be "manipulated"? Which global super power is manipulating data in favour of Islam? You seem to be under this misguided perception that the world is trying to make Islam look better than it is when it is the complete opposite. Where was this global muslim conspiracy when the middle east got butt fucked for decades?

You are living a sad existence at the moment where your mind can never be changed

You believe Islam is evil and it is making your life worse and if shown any data to the contrary you just reply with "fake news" and move on lol

There is no global conspiracy against you bro to make you love Islam lol

Looney territory and global statistics is your rebuttal when previously you said it was shit along with all other religions. But somehow you take exception to someone pointing out how it's not like other religions. Seems you're operating on ignorance or playing games. Islam is life, or Islam is a way of life aren't accidental sayings. Islam giverns all aspects of life, not just faith, so it can't operate as other religions do. You crying about it and trying to white knight an authoritarian, totalitarian system is the proverbial ostrich with it's head in the sand.

You ever looked at those pew polls I mentioned or actually talked to any sizeable and diverse number of Muslims? Thought not.

 

[moosaev]

Lol. I'm heartbroken the racist who keeps asking the question "what about white people" thinks I'm a bigot.

Islam, like any other supremacist and intolerant ideology sucks. Unlike you I'll come out and speak my mind and will deal with the consequences.



Data can be and is always manipulated. We've seen this play out in real time over the last few years with Covid. The examples I cited are historical facts.

Where was the data on grooming gangs for decades when they raped tens of thousands of infidels?

But if you want to actually look at statistics there's the pew polls indicating scant tolerance for things we accept as normal within the Islamic world. And Muslims as a community, world wide, work to enforce those rules within their communities. Myopic fools focus on violence, or physical safety above all other considerations. Only hypocritical myopic fools take acception to seeing criticisms of such social norms when levied against one ideology while accepting those criticisms against another.

So blow me.

“If the data doesn’t agree with my conclusions, it must’ve been manipulated” - Bald1

 

[scoopj]

“If the data doesn’t agree with my conclusions, it must’ve been manipulated” - Bald1

He’s right. You can make the data say whatever you want. Of course some of us are still using 12th century math…

 

[moosaev]

He’s right. You can make the data say whatever you want. Of course some of us are still using 12th century math…

If the data coincided with your narrative you’d be using it.

 

[So Fresh]

No that's not the point. The point is these acts are ideologically/religiously driven by Islamic teaching.

We are not denying war crimes and atrocities by the Western military and others. But they don't have Generals saying ''yes, rape women and kill civilians" even if it may have happened and it's not written in the constitution so it's outlier behavior.

The point is Islam and per Muhammad actively teach and encourage inhumane acts, so it's not 'outlier' behaviour for Islam even if most Muslims don't follow it. The unpleasant truth is Islam is a vile cult with no hope of reform due to the degenerate Muhammad and his example and instruction.

They don't have the power now to commit atrocities like they used to, if they could they would, like when they turned North Africa from Christian to Muslim, millions had been killed by them in heinous ways.



Not by all people at that time, no.

Bottom line is Muhamadeens think it should be normal to act like this now and stone people to death etc because they think 7th Century Koran is 'divine instruction'. This is the type of retardation Islam causes in it's cult followers. And it's not a minority view among Muslims they just dont openly declare it in the West.

It was by warlords, religious leaders, kings and others.

You really had me when you said “it’s not a minority view, they just don’t declare it”

you’re a mind reader now <Lmaoo>

 

[scoopj]

If the data coincided with your narrative you’d be using it.

Right back at you.

 

[moosaev]

It was by warlords, religious leaders, kings and others.

You really had me when you said “it’s not a minority view, they just don’t declare it”

you’re a mind reader now <Lmaoo>

Their entire hypothesis rests on the idea that moderate Muslims are crypto-Islamists and we’re just hiding it as part of a conspiracy to take over the world. It’s literally insane. It’s the type of shit the Nazis said about Jews, but it’s totally acceptable to say this about Muslims. Anyone who said something similar about Jews would be disqualified from polite conversation and written off as an anti-Semitic kook.

 

[So Fresh]

Their entire hypothesis rests on the idea that moderate Muslims are crypto-Islamists and we’re just hiding it as part of a conspiracy to take over the world. It’s literally insane. It’s the type of shit the Nazis said about Jews, but it’s totally acceptable to say this about Muslims. Anyone who said something similar about Jews would be disqualified from polite conversation and written off as an anti-Semitic kook.

Yeah it sounds a bit like that scrolls of zion conspiracy but then for muslims.

 

[Be the ball]

Yeah it sounds a bit like that scrolls of zion conspiracy but then for muslims.

What is that scrolls of zion conspiracy. Can you elaborate?

 

[moosaev]

Right back at you.

I don’t need data to make the points i’m making. I’m making qualitative arguments based on logic. But when someone else uses data to rebut a point you’re making, saying the data has been manipulated is a giant cop out. You guys basically admitted that your conclusions are being influenced by selection bias, that’s a giant self own lol. You’ve discredited your own argument.

 

[moosaev]

Yeah it sounds a bit like that scrolls of zion conspiracy but then for muslims.

100%, it’s exactly like Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

 

[So Fresh]

What is that scrolls of zion conspiracy. Can you elaborate?

Anti semetic propaganda, just google it if you don’t know it