International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

[SandisLL]

It doesn't matter. If we send them now, like your buddy was asking, they're going to sit somewhere in Ukraine for a year before anyone is trained to fight them, and even then it'll only be half a squadron, or 6 jets in the air. That will have no effect on the direction or outcome of the war.

The highest effect assumed that Ukr might get from F-16 was to use them as flying air defense platforms located far from frontline and used against missiles launched on targets close to Ukr western border.

With this demand for Patriot and SAMP-T batteries might had been reduced and also demand for most expensive missiles models versiòn for NASAMS batteries.....

Cos F-16 might be used to launch air to air missiles vs these missiles russia is using to shell western ukraine.

It is obiviously clear that Ukr will not get enough SAM batteries to cover all Ukr areas far from frontline.
Israel is small if compare with Kiev oblastj alone and they had to invest a lot of work and huge money during 4+ decades and turn country into weapons warehouse in order to achieve decent air defense.
Ukr doesn't have such obstacles and such small territory ....so mission impossible to achieve air defense only with SAM batteries.

 

[ferrisjso]

I dont think anyone is suggesting that at all. But being Russian and all lying is your calling card.

Really? No one is suggesting that? Whenever dissenters get ignored and leave this thread revolves around nominal Ukrainian successes and the love of HIMARS units.

 

[SandisLL]

Really? No one is suggesting that? Whenever dissenters get ignored and leave this thread revolves around nominal Ukrainian successes and the love of HIMARS units.

Trolls are ignored frequently and for a reason.
Ppl aren't paid to read BS profiles like your profile is posting.

Apply and taste nominal war if you want.
Ask Girkin or Prigozin how cool and easy.... maybe Surovikin too will be happy to explain something.

 

[Rod1]

This thread is such a trip. If you got your news from this thread, you’d think Ukraine is winning and well on their way to Crimea.

meanwhile, actual news and officials are basically saying the offensive has failed and likely will need to give us the occupied lands.

First one is about the guy talking about possible solutions and immediately regretted that his words were taken as official policy.

Second one is a Republican that is afraid the MAGA base will turn of him for being perceived as neocon.

Ukraine is winning the war, as much as you can call getting invaded as winning because of all the death and misery that Russia has caused.

 

[Rod1]

Really? No one is suggesting that? Whenever dissenters get ignored and leave this thread revolves around nominal Ukrainian successes and the love of HIMARS units.

As opposed to cheering about fantasy scenarios where Russia stonks and the West imminent collapse?

Just go back to your LateStageCapitalism where you can cheer when the Western economies contract by a few percentage points while ignoring the total collapse of third world shithole nations that oppose the West.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

The "some reason" is you're holding me up to values I have not expressed my support of especially not as a priority. I'm mad at the US coups because they overthrew my ideological peers and made the world a worse place according to my world view not because I believe in representative democracy and the sanctity of borders. My sense of right and wrong is not defined by following international law and I've never postured that it was. I am not an institutionalist I am an ideologue.

I want geopolitical destabilization because I do not support the current order thus I see it as a good thing. That is one of my main motives for supporting the Russians.

Petulant only child syndrome mixed with being a tankie. Your parents don't include updates about you in their Christmas letters, do they?

 

[GhostZ06]

Some ukrainians are in polands military parade, and also more K-2's, abrams, lepoards, that is one nasty combination

 

[BlankaPresident]

meanwhile, actual news and officials are basically saying the offensive has failed and likely will need to give us the occupied lands.

Hmmmmmmmm... lol

 

[ferrisjso]

Petulant only child syndrome mixed with being a tankie. Your parents don't include updates about you in their Christmas letters, do they?

San Marino should be given sainthood for having to deal with all of you guys for months on end tbh.

It's funny how I'm the petulant only child but whenever y'all get called out on your bs you go straight to name calling and individual based personal attacks. Typical right wing playbook.

 

[JudoThrowFiasco]

San Marino should be given sainthood for having to deal with all of you guys for months on end tbh.

It's funny how I'm the petulant only child but whenever y'all get called out on your bs you go straight to name calling and individual based personal attacks. Typical right wing playbook.

So, no they don't.

 

[SandisLL]

Russia is continuing old good tactique.
Wagnerites had been used also cos this had reduced official casualities numbers in russia's regular military.
Now they does use some recently formed PMC ( private military companies ), these are hiring mercenaries and sending these to fight vs Ukr..

 

[Goober stoober]

First one is about the guy talking about possible solutions and immediately regretted that his words were taken as official policy.

Second one is a Republican that is afraid the MAGA base will turn of him for being perceived as neocon.

Ukraine is winning the war, as much as you can call getting invaded as winning because of all the death and misery that Russia has caused.

damn, so iraq was winning the war in 03 too eh?

 

[Goober stoober]

Really? No one is suggesting that? Whenever dissenters get ignored and leave this thread revolves around nominal Ukrainian successes and the love of HIMARS units.

it's like that on most discussion boards. you're not allowed to discuss reality.

 

[Rholk]

it's like that on most discussion boards. you're not allowed to discuss reality.

Really, you weren't allowed to discuss your opinion on here?
Do tell, what admin prevented it?

 

[Goober stoober]

Really, you weren't allowed to discuss your opinion on here?
Do tell, what admin prevented it?

huh?
do u even internet?

 

[Rholk]

huh?
do u even internet?

Not sure what your on about, you said you werent allowed to discuss reality.
So do elaborate, your posts were beeing removed?

 

[Goober stoober]

Not sure what your on about, you said you werent allowed to discuss reality.
So do elaborate, your posts were beeing removed?

do u understand what a discussion is?

 

[Rholk]

San Marino should be given sainthood for having to deal with all of you guys for months on end tbh.

It's funny how I'm the petulant only child but whenever y'all get called out on your bs you go straight to name calling and individual based personal attacks. Typical right wing playbook.

Yeah, dude should have been worshipped for his comments.
We shouldn't have dared to call him out on his great ideas, you know like how Ukraine should have committed all of their effort into a para drop behind enemy lines for their counteroffensive.
How dare anyone talk back

 

[Rholk]

do u understand what a discussion is?

Yeah, you said you weren't allowed to have one, so do explain.

 

[Goober stoober]

Yeah, you said you weren't allowed to have one, so do explain.

i actually don't believe u do. see u think you're having one right now.