International Russia/Ukraine Megathread V12

[SandisLL]

Attempts to press Poland via Biden's administration and EU are clear idiotism.
Is it hard to limit Ukrainian oligarchs, allow them to transit grain for free via Poland and not to sell this in Poland?
Okey, Zelensky is smart.<{ByeHomer}>

Not alone if will press Lithuania.

These might repair your equipment 4 months not in 5 days, to tell that batch with jammers will be after 3 days or 60 days and for a reason.

 

[Videer]

Geolocated footage of destroyed artillery during the last few months by GeoConfirmed. Shows quite clearly the results of Ukraine targeting enemy artillery with fresh infusion of HIMARS and Excaliburs.

 

[LeonardoBjj]

US sanctions four Russians accused of direct involvement in Navalny poisoning

The US has imposed sanctions and visa restrictions on four Russian intelligence operatives accused of direct involvement in the 2020 poisoning of Alexei Navalny, a Russian politician and corruption investigator who is one of President Vladimir Putin’s fiercest critics.

The Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control sanctioned Alexei Alexandrov, Konstantin Kudryavtsev, Ivan Osipov and Vladimir Panyaev. All are operatives of the Federal Security Services, known as the FSB, the main successor to the Soviet-era KGB.

Panyaev is reported to have tailed Navalny prior to his poisoning; the others are operatives of the FSB’s Criminalistics Institute, a secret laboratory, which is reported to work with poisons.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/live...kraine-unable-to-use-us-built-f-16s-this-year

 

[PEB]

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

Of course UKR will decide, but the West can force their hand if they limit aid.

I think that NATO idea echoes the sentiments of some in the West. That politician wouldn't have brought it up in the media if it wasn't already discussed (internally) as a possibility.

That's why I dont like the excuse of Nato not wanting their weapons to be used in Russia. Nato could simply stop aid if UKR dont agree to the terms. But as why the f-16's and long range missiles havnt been sent is questionable.

 

[SandisLL]

Good system while for Germany it will be useless.
It isn't possible to win boxing bout if you aren't allowed to hit your opponent, just to be as walking punching bag.
To have most expensive SAM systems while you fear to hit enemy ground forces with long distance weapons ...is waste of taxpayers money nothing more. In order not to escalate, sorry for reality, France and U.K should prepare shelters and bunkers for german elite and military not to dream that they will act if shit in EU will start off.
Next Molotov- Ribentropp pact and even next East Germany under Kremlin might be acceptable solution for this country to deal with comrades in Kremlin. And shelters in France & U.K where to relocate ....
Painful reality 1998-2023 ...

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

what are they going to do with F-16's? Look at them stored in some makeshift hanger disguised as a parking garage, waiting to be blown TF up by the Russians???

This might surprise you but they dont store them in open fields near the front line....If I had to guess I would say they are out of reach from a simple attack...but again just a guess.

 

[SandisLL]

Also obiviously germany is watching on Poland as cheap and dumb buffer if shit will happen.

While not likely someone had planned elite evacuation and population relocation to west IF attack will be reverse historical: from Austria etc direction.... might be cool experience and cos Putin is using Hitler's textbook then...might use Austria in reverse " mode " history.
Unexcepted, a bit crazy and still ...might be very effective attack on Germany with ground forces IF Austria already will be controlled. Then move further and IF in order not to escalate U.S will do the same as with Ukr....tanks in Hamburg and Berlin might be reality.

 

[SandisLL]

This might surprise you but they dont store them in open fields near the front line....If I had to guess I would say they are out of reach from a simple attack...but again just a guess.

In peace time even civil aircraft stored for long term is covered with " tents " if not placed in hangars because this reduces rain and snow etc they might be exposed...

 

[SandisLL]

To avoid condensate accumulation tent might have fundaments ( also improvised and mobile ) allowing ventilation , while still tent provides protection from rain, snow etc...
If aircraft is stored for long time.

At least even with cheap civil stuff is done such thing....if hangar isn't awailable.

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

i think the West is more concerned with what would happen if Ukraine were to drive the front towards Moscow. I think there is a red line somewhere between Belgorod and Moscow that the west doesn't want to test. It limits Ukraine's options but i also don't think Ukraine want's to be driving an offensive within russia for a number of political and logistical reasons. No one wants to be involved in regime change within russia, imo.

Well that's the thing, it seems some want regime change in Russia but others are afraid of it. It really is hard to say what will happen post Putin at this Point. Is Russia savable at all? Can they get a leader who will loose the Soviet mentality and try to be normal and join Western lifestyle instead of looking for their next war?
I think If they even managed to push Russians out of UKR they would be happy to stop fighting especially if they got Crimea.
I dont know if they would really want to push past the border as that would just lead to future hostilities.

 

[SandisLL]

Well that's the thing, it seems some want regime change in Russia but others are afraid of it. It really is hard to say what will happen post Putin at this Point. Is Russia savable at all? Can they get a leader who will loose the Soviet mentality and try to be normal and join Western lifestyle instead of looking for their next war?
I think If they even managed to push Russians out of UKR they would be happy to stop fighting especially if they got Crimea.
I dont know if they would really want to push past the border as that would just lead to future hostilities.

If Ukr will regain territories their troops will lost motivation to go further.

Lukashenko gladly might see his troops fighting vs Ukraine etc countries, while even largest % of officers doesn't have motivation for this.
Therefore Lukashenko just since 2020 th is pretending that doesn't see criminals groups attempting to cross border in EU direction, smugglers etc..

Then allowed to use territory, airbases, hospitals, provided fuel, lubricants, medicaments, ammunition and weapons.
Supplied more than 130 000 metric tons of ammo to Russia.
While doesn't use regular forces vs Ukr and had accepted wagnerites to bully west and ukr.......

 

[cottagecheesefan]

This thread is such a trip. If you got your news from this thread, you’d think Ukraine is winning and well on their way to Crimea.

meanwhile, actual news and officials are basically saying the offensive has failed and likely will need to give us the occupied lands.

 

[syct23]

This thread is such a trip. If you got your news from this thread, you’d think Ukraine is winning and well on their way to Crimea.

meanwhile, actual news and officials are basically saying the offensive has failed and likely will need to give us the occupied lands.

I bet it burnt your eyes and fingers to copy and paste something from MSNBC and Politico

 

[Limbo Pete]

I bet it burnt your eyes and fingers to copy and past something from MSNBC and Politico

Worse yet, he just called MSNBC "actual news"

 

[Ruthless Ryan]

This thread is such a trip. If you got your news from this thread, you’d think Ukraine is winning and well on their way to Crimea.

meanwhile, actual news and officials are basically saying the offensive has failed and likely will need to give us the occupied lands.

I dont think anyone is suggesting that at all. But being Russian and all lying is your calling card.

 

[SandisLL]

The reality check is enough painful for Ukr.
In summer 2022 th they should had get these cruise missiles, ATACMS missiles and cluster ammo in order at least to slow down russian offensive potential.
West didn't had sent this and Ukr didn't had enough tools to hit ammo depots far from frontline nor enough tools to stop attacks with little losses...

All these supplies and now dream talks about F-16....
Cluster ammo, cruise missiles and some 300+ even M60A3 might had did big job in summer - autumn 2022 th.
Now..
Really more and more looks that everything is going as had been planned by all sides btw.
IF supplies are these we know in public media then Ukr doesn't have chance......

 

[Fergelmince]

This might surprise you but they dont store them in open fields near the front line....If I had to guess I would say they are out of reach from a simple attack...but again just a guess.

It doesn't matter. If we send them now, like your buddy was asking, they're going to sit somewhere in Ukraine for a year before anyone is trained to fight them, and even then it'll only be half a squadron, or 6 jets in the air. That will have no effect on the direction or outcome of the war.

 

[SandisLL]

Rumoured stuff.
Occupation authorities are intensifiyng passportization of inhabitants by advocating them to apply for russian citizenship and denounce ukr citizenship.
Also mobilization activities and search for possible " internal enemies " activated even more than earlier.
Occupation forces are using part of military also in activities to continue build fortifications : dig trenches, tunnels and build bunkers in occupied areas, even far from frontlines...
To dig trenches all tools are used: from special trenches digging machines and civilian purpose excavators till casual shovels and all this ends with these common shovels used in military infantry ....
Casual shovel is larger and therefore might offer higher productivity but is larger and heavier, therefore rarely used ( usually ) but war in Ukr is different world.

 

[cottagecheesefan]

I dont think anyone is suggesting that at all. But being Russian and all lying is your calling card.

lol, actual news outlets or someone in sherdog who calls anyone they disagree with a Russian bot. <45>

ii Slava Ukrainian !!