Crime Ross Ulbricht Pardoned

[KAZSoliloquy]

I wouldn't call them safe. Yes they are presented honestly but they certainly are not safe. But I understand your wording now. Thank you

i mean, many consumable products are not safe. the questions are how safe are they, how safe can they be, and how often they are used? there are many legal consumables that are not safe, and i think that's okay. there are also many illegal consumables that are not safe, and legalizing them can only make them safer.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

i mean, many consumable products are not safe. the questions are how safe are they, how safe can they be, and how often they are used? there are many legal consumables that are not safe, and i think that's okay. there are also many illegal consumables that are not safe, and legalizing them can only make them safer.

Potentially, yes. I do understand where you are coming from but I personally do not see the merit in many of these drugs "safe" or otherwise being easily accessible.

 

[KAZSoliloquy]

Potentially, yes. I do understand where you are coming from but I personally do not see the merit in many of these drugs "safe" or otherwise being easily accessible.

the more illegal they are, the more "black market" they become, and thus, there is less telling what's inside them. i sold/traded a little bit of blow and weed in high school like a lot of kids did, and i can say for a fact blow was often cut with all KINDS of different shit. i can only imagine what's in things now.

people who are addicted to drugs are going to do them no matter what the legality is, and for people who aren't addicted, the legality doesn't mean anything. they will use as needed/wanted and the demand is low.

the safest possible outcome is education regarding drug abuse and long-term use effects, rehabilitation funding, and legality/regulation for every single recreational drug there is.

 

[GreatSaintGuillotine]

the more illegal they are, the more "black market" they become, and thus, there is less telling what's inside them. i sold/traded a little bit of blow and weed in high school like a lot of kids did, and i can say for a fact blow was often cut with all KINDS of different shit. i can only imagine what's in things now.

people who are addicted to drugs are going to do them no matter what the legality is, and for people who aren't addicted, the legality doesn't mean anything. they will use as needed/wanted and the demand is low.

the safest possible outcome is education regarding drug abuse and long-term use effects, rehabilitation funding, and legality/regulation for every single recreational drug there is.

Maybe so. I have not done an exorbitant amount of research on the topic, so a lot of this is just personal experience and feelings for me.

I see no reason for pot to be criminalized when cigarettes aren't. But meth, heroine, crack/cocaine? Idk man. I can't get my head around it

 

[ShadowRun]

I am trying to remember all the details, this guy made the dark web forum that allowed all those illegal things to happen but he wasn't directly involved in the transitions ? I know he was a hardcore libertarian.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

I am trying to remember all the details, this guy made the dark web forum that allowed all those illegal things to happen but he wasn't directly involved in the transitions ? I know he was a hardcore libertarian.

He was taking a cut from every transaction and knew they were happening. If I have a warehouse full of drug dealers and take a cut from every sale and am fully aware they're dealing drugs in my warehouse then realistically I'm going to be in a lot of shit.

 

[ShadowRun]

He was taking a cut from every transaction and knew they were happening. If I have a warehouse full of drug dealers and take a cut from every sale and am fully aware they're dealing drugs in my warehouse then realistically I'm going to be in a lot of shit.

Ah ok he was skimming off the top no matter the transaction, he got life without parole I think right?

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Ah ok he was skimming off the top no matter the transaction, he got life without parole I think right?

Yeah two life sentences plus x amount of years just in case he resurrected twice.

 

[curryjunkie]

President Donald Trump pardons Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht

Fulfilling a campaign promise to libertarians and the bitcoin community, the Silk Road founder's life sentence without parole is now over.

reason.com

President Donald Trump, fulfilling a promise made at the Libertarian Party's National Convention in May, pardoned Ross Ulbricht today. Ulbricht had been serving a life sentence for his role in founding and operating the dark web marketplace Silk Road.

As Trump put it in a Truth Social post: "in honor of [his mother Lyn Ulbricht], and the Libertarian Movement, which supported me so strongly, it was my pleasure to have just signed a full and unconditional pardon of her son, Ross." He said "the scum that worked to convict him were some of the same lunatics who were involved in the modern-day weaponization of government against me."

Pretty wild. I didn't think this guy would ever get out. I recommend American Kingpin for a read or listen to the case file podcast episodes on this story if you guys aren't familiar with the case.

I didn't have pardoning online purveyors of drugs and weapons on my bingo card, fuck knows what libertarians have to do with it..