Social Roseanne tweets outrageously racist comment about former Obama staffer Valerie Jarrett

ultramanhyata said:
There's a difference between using racist jokes and words in a routine to help a crowd understand the absurdities of racism and doing it because you are actually pushing a racist ideology or trying to wound a person of color.

There's that famous line Chappelle said about quitting his show when he realized a lot of people were laughing at his stereotypical black characters for the wrong reasons and he didn't want to be responsible for further ingraining those stereotypes.

This doesn't mean I don't support the right of anyone to express whatever positions they want to in the public square. But, for better or worse, there will be repercussions in a marketplace.
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It's not like that.
Richard Pryor cracking jokes about white people for ten minutes as people find their seats, and being fucking hilarious about it, wasn't intended to show the absurdities of racism.
All things being equal, comedians of all colors could freely crack jokes about all colors. But all things are not equal. White people owned black people and many fought for the right to own black people.

This is a point many ITT either don't understand, or won't.

I love hearing white people jokes. Pryor didn't say them out of hatred.
 
Valerie does look like that though. That female from the originals. It's not racist to think that at all.

Still, what a stupid thing to say publicly. Society is full of leftist scum who intentionally misenterpret things with bad optics to slander their political opposition.

Roseanne was kicking ass, this sucks.
 
Fawlty said:
Thought about this a fair bit today, and I can't get behind her losing her show for this. First of all, she has apologized, several times, and I'm sure she means it.

I understand ABC thinks they are covering their asses and that Roseanne has caused issues with Twitter before, but this just isn't bad enough to me to justify the cancellation of a successful show. At least, this isn't where we should be counting coup in the political battle against white nationalism. Roseanne is a nut and has always been a nut. She's always going to do stuff like this.

Is the problem that she made a racist joke? Then no more racist jokes (which would be a shame).

Is the problem that the joke wasn't funny? Then no more jokes about anything controversial at all.

If it's the combination of racist and not funny, that puts a lot of pressure on public figures at a time when they already have a lot of pressure on them.

Leave the show on and see what happens. If the ratings tank, cancel it. I don't think they would.
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I don't blame ABC for cancelling it. Ape + Black person is never gonna fly in any context, when a white person says it. You've got a tether with these jokes, and Roseanne(I believe inadvertently) broke hers.

If ABC did nothing, the story would quickly turn into one about them being racist. They'd be losing sponsors left and right, and the media would not let the story die until ABC did something. It was a no choice situation.

Now what the media needs to do at this point, is let it go. It's settled. Piling on, and piling on after the fact, isn't going to do them any favors. She did it, she apologized, her show is cancelled, its over. Kicking her when she's down will only gain her sympathy. There are a few celebrities on the Liberal side of things they've let off the hook for similar shit(Maher, Joy Reid), so to continue to attack Roseanne on this, is just going to look petty and agenda ridden.
 
Tropodan said:
Valerie does look like that though. That female from the originals. It's not racist to think that at all.

Still, what a stupid thing to say publicly. Society is full of leftist scum who intentionally misenterpret things with bad optics to slander their political opposition.

Roseanne was kicking ass, this sucks.
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You say people slander their political opposition, then call those you disagree with scum....
 
People let words have so much power over them. It's funny to sit back and watch. Any of you could call me anything under the sun and I wouldn't be offended. I would laugh actually. You want to know why?
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I said do you want to know why? Because no one to gives two fucks about any of your opinions.
 
HereticBD said:
I don't blame ABC for cancelling it. Ape + Black person is never gonna fly in any context, when a white person says it. You've got a tether with these jokes, and Roseanne(I believe inadvertently) broke hers.

If ABC did nothing, the story would quickly turn into one about them being racist. They'd be losing sponsors left and right, and the media would not let the story die until ABC did something. It was a no choice situation.

Now what the media needs to do at this point, is let it go. It's settled. Piling on, and piling on after the fact, isn't going to do them any favors. She did it, she apologized, her show is cancelled, its over. Kicking her when she's down will only gain her sympathy. There are a few celebrities on the Liberal side of things they've let off the hook for similar shit(Maher, Joy Reid), so to continue to attack Roseanne on this, is just going to look petty and agenda ridden.
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It's so petty to talk about this one day after it happened, you're right.

Water under the bridge.
 
BudKing8806 said:
People let words have so much power over them. It's funny to sit back and watch. Any of you could call me anything under the sun and I wouldn't be offended. I would laugh actually. You want to know why?
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I said do you want to know why? Because no one to gives two fucks about any of your opinions.
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Exactly. I've been saying this for years . . .
 
hillelslovak87 said:
You say people slander their political opposition, then call those you disagree with scum....
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Well I'm being truthful. Truthful slander is sometimes ok. Lying to smear people you don't like is scummy. It's all the left has today.

Disagree with open borders and mass immigration? Xenophobe!!! Racist!!!! Nazi!!!!

Disagree with abortion as birth control? You hate women!!!!!

Believe in biology? Transphobe!!!!
 
spamking said:
They're definitely louder and more obnoxious it seems . . .
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Yah, and the left is speaking in similar tones and extremes.

But that's not really fair; what we're talking about is actually the extremes of both sides.
Everything will swing back towards the center.

We can't keep getting Donald Trumps and Hillary Clintons for choices.
 
Rational Poster said:
It's so petty to talk about this one day after it happened, you're right.

Water under the bridge.
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We'll see. Right now it's normal. If they're still running "What Roseanne did" stories in a week from now on CNN and the like, it's overkill, and it will be clear they're just using her, as @Fawlty put it, as a practice dummy for Trump.
 
BudKing8806 said:
People let words have so much power over them. It's funny to sit back and watch. Any of you could call me anything under the sun and I wouldn't be offended. I would laugh actually. You want to know why?
<23>
I said do you want to know why? Because no one to gives two fucks about any of your opinions.
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This post isn't making any sense to me.
 
Overpressure said:
Now it's old people who always do a thing.
Let's focus on Roseanne's behavior, not try to excuse it by applying her behavior broadly to other faceless people who aren't involved.
It's intellectually dishonest at best.
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I don't even know how some of you guys have time to live your lives while being up in arms every time an old person says something racist.
 
ultramanhyata said:
If there was still any doubt left in anyone's mind about this woman's integrity, a recent tweet should make things crystal clear.

Referring to Barack Obama's former aide, Valerie Jarrett, an African American born in Iran to American citizens, Roseanne said Jarrett was what would happen if the "Muslim Brotherhood and Planet of the Apes had a baby".

After receiving obvious blowback (probably most of it from the producers of the Roseanne reboot, already green-lit for a second season) she followed up with another tweet that simply said, "I apologize. I am now leaving Twitter."

BREAKING: ABC has canceled the Roseanne series as a result of the tweet in question. #winning
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Gervais said:
This is not a stupid thing. This is a calculated move from her ti feed her new base who watches her show now.
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Yes, it's clearly racism and clearly a political move made at something and in now way is it a terrible joke made by a comedian at the fact that Valerie Jarret looks like the living embodiement of the character Helena Bonham Carter played in Planet of the Apes



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Jarrett

I'm sure this series, as popular as it has been, will be right back on the air somewhere.
 
HereticBD said:
We'll see. Right now it's normal. If they're still running "What Roseanne did" stories in a week from now on CNN and the like, it's overkill, and it will be clear they're just using her, as @Fawlty put it, as a practice dummy for Trump.
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Well, I'm sure she's not going to shut up and neither will her fan base, so good luck with that.
 
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