Robert Whittaker = "A Changed Man" ... for the Worse

[Wonderfight]

He is better than ever, that is all I know.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

OP as a toddler ...

You look great in your diapers ...
Post your turd (RW), after he loses, and then post your apology, after you clean yourself up.

 

[checktheknuckles]

Look at Whittakers fights against yoel and then look at how izzy fought yoel. In fact only Costa left me more impressed against yoel than whittaker.

 

[drbolony]

Let's cut to the chase, Whittaker used to be a fighter, now he's a point fighter.

Adesanya basically castrated Whittaker.

If we look at the "UFC only" stats, realize this:

• Before Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker had 13 UFC Fights (11 Wins, 2 Losses, 5 KOs) - 1 loss by KO

Since being brutally KO'd / exposed by Adesanya,

• After Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker has had 5 UFC Fights (4 Wins, 1 Loss, 0 KOs) - no further KO losses.

Anyone who watches the first Adesanya fight, compared to the second Adesanya fight, can see Whittaker is 100x more cautious since being annihilated.

His style is too cautious now, boring and lame.
He completely let Cannonier off the hook.

Yeah, I am a "Bobby Knuckles" fan, or at least I was — but I am actually hoping du Plessis embarrasses Whittaker and sends him back into retirement.

I don't want to watch ANY ONE fight "not to lose" ... will not pay money for this ... Including those people who used to be my favorites.

Really starting to doubt your boxing background.

Robert has changed a lot and it's been for the better. Outside of Adesanaya, the last three fighters he fought are some of the most durable fighters on the roster, none have been stopped by strikes and are rarely even rocked (Cannonier, Gastelum, and Vettori). Cannonier got his arm broken and the other two looked like this:

*Note the bruising on the body and forearm and body from kicks, as well as the obvious facial swelling

All while Robert wore afresh clean face to a clean sweep 50-45 against both.

The big difference is that Robert is fighting sturdy dudes and he's not karate blitzing as his only entrance into range. He now methodically works behind his jab and uses his footwork to inch his way in. Having the background you claim to have, you'd think you'd appreciate this.

Blitzing like that is what made it seem like he didn't belong against Adesanaya in the first fight. He got countered and destroyed moving in and out in straight lines exclusively. The second fight was much closer and more time in boxing boots is only going to close the gap even more.

Robert used to love chilling at kicking range, because before Adesanaya, he was the one of the best kickers at MW and felt comfortable choosing his spots against grapplers like Brunson, Jacare, and Romero at this range. When he met Adesanaya, he quickly discovered the "levels" argument in MMA isn't just a cliche Roganism. With his current skill set he no longer moves in in straight lines, and he has a better opportunity to set up his tds in the pocket.

So you see, your stats don't tell the whole story.

 

[Steve Fox]

Anyone who "holds back," after I paid $85 to see them fight, is no longer on my "A" list ...

Easily solved by not paying.



If you don't pay, you won't be pissed.

 

[Thesnake101]

It's sad how the brain damage Whittaker's opponents were supposed to be getting somehow transferred to TS, truly tragic.

 

[Yep]

Easily solved by not paying.



If you don't pay, you won't be pissed.

It’s solved by not having expectations

 

[krelianx]

I thereby nominate Stone Golem for the honorable award of the most idiotic poster of the year.

 

[GrantB13]

"He hasn't gotten knocked out since that fight OMG he's such a sissy now!"

That's literally your argument in a way.

 

[KanoKanito]

dude what anime is that avatar gif from? what episode? Looks so badass

 

[Substance Abuse]

I thereby nominate Stone Golem for the honorable award of the most idiotic poster of the year.

In the last week, I'm not sure if the thread about lightweight being overrated due to Guram and Damir losing or this one is worse, lol.

 

[krelianx]

In the last week, I'm not sure if the thread about lightweight being overrated due to Guram and Damir losing or this one is worse, lol.

I mean that one at least had the virtue of legitimately asking if the new generation of LWs can keep the division at the top of the talent pool ranks, relative to others.

This one, on the other hand, is a heaping pile of bison manure.

 

[xhaydenx]

I have a clue.

Really watch Robert Whittaker, and his persona, in first Izzy fight":
Whittaker = 100% confident he's going to get the finish.

Then, really watch, Robert Whittaker, and his persona in the second Izzy fight: a scared competitor, Whittaker = "trying to win": Sickening/

In the subsequent Whittaker bouts, even when he has legit hurt his opponents, he is still "holding back" ... for fear of retribution.

It's okay that we disagree, but I know when I am seeing ... a fighter trying to kill ... vs a fighter trying to "win on points" ....

Bro, you're not seeing something no one else is seeing.

Like, yeh, we all know he fought differently in the second Izzy fight lol. You calling him a scared competitor though is dumb though. I mean, why would you expect him to try the exact same approach that saw him get brutally finished the first time? No smart fighter does that, and if you were a fan of Rob's like you claimed, you'd know he's always been a smart fighter.

You make it out like fighting smart and safe is somehow bad and means you're scared lol.

If we go by your logic, then the vast majority of the roster and lots of the greats are/were scared cowards.

 

[OldFashion]

dude what anime is that avatar gif from? what episode? Looks so badass

 

[YesForGayJesus]

In the last week, I'm not sure if the thread about lightweight being overrated due to Guram and Damir losing or this one is worse, lol.

Sherdog, where good takes go to die.

 

[Steve Fox]

Imagine getting your ass kicked by a mfer wrapped on a pink blanket. Good stuff. Thx for the share.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Bro, you're not seeing something no one else is seeing.

Like, yeh, we all know he fought differently in the second Izzy fight lol. You calling him a scared competitor though is dumb though.

Um, I am saying something no one else is admitting ...

The great "Robert Whittaker" ... was BROKEN ...

and all we have left is the remnants.

You make it out like fighting smart and safe is somehow bad and means you're scared lol.

Yes, sorry.

He's fought "smart and scared" ever since ...

If we go by your logic, then the vast majority of the roster and lots of the greats are/were scared cowards.

"We?"

Do you have a mouse in your pocket?

I am trying to flag a legit digression of a (formerly-) great fighter ... who has (since) become a point-fighting (safety-first) can.

If you disagree with me, fine.

But REALLY WATCH tomorrow's shenanigans ... and then post your (updated) opinion here.

 

[Sincere Guy]

Nowadays you pay an account to be a troll without getting banned, I suppose? Maybe it worth the value, because look at the posts of this individual lol. Why he didn't get banned yet is beyond me.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Nowadays you pay an account to be a troll without getting banned, I suppose? Maybe it worth the value, because look at the posts of this individual lol. Why he didn't get banned yet is beyond me.

So, if I understand you correctly, no one should be able to criticize "a popular fighter" ... without getting banned?

Is that what you're saying?

Because, yeah, since getting KO's by Israel Adesanya, I hereby do criticize Robert Whittaker's body of work.

He doesn't have the same pizzazz.
He only fights "safety first."

Israel took something from him.

Is this opinion really a "bannable" offense?
Because I say this as a (former) Whittaker fan.

I don't always have to flagellate popular fighters.

It really is okay to criticize popular fighters too, if there is evidence to back it up.

Why don't you actually go watch, Whittaker x Adesanya I ...
and then go watch Whittaker x Adesanya II ... (both fights, from start to finish).

The difference in CONFIDENCE is night-and-day ...

Please report back to me the difference "you see," honestly.

 

[SalvadorAllende]

You suck TS. No wonder you have a yellow card. More of those incoming.