Robert Whittaker = "A Changed Man" ... for the Worse

[Blanqa Blanqua]

Not a hater, but no longer a fan.

Anyone who "holds back," after I paid $85 to see them fight, is no longer on my "A" list ...

When I fogging pay my money, I want to see my favorite trying to kill.

When I see he is now "trying NOT TO LOSE" ... I'm wanting to call the local junkyard man, to negotiate where to "bury his remains" ...

Man, it sounds like Bobby really broke your heart.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Man, it sounds like Bobby really broke your heart.

No, but through gutless "safety first" performances, really lost my support.

 

[CutStryker]

Maybe he is what TS says he is, but the guy has class, speaks well and upholds his ethics and morals to a high standard. I don’t know Robert Whittaker personally, but I admire the man I’ve seen in action and how he verbally represents himself

 

[Blanqa Blanqua]

No, but through gutless "safety first" performances, really lost my support.

gutless?

Cmon man.

Anyways, I hope the fight is exciting and you enjoy it. Being a three rounder perhaps it'll have both sides taking chances and provide some fireworks.

Have a nice day.

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

Appreciate your response.

Really watch Whittaker in the first Adesanya fight: he's going for blood.

Really watch Whittaker in the second Adesanya fight: he's fighting "not to lose."

Ray Charles can see this.

He has been fighting "not to lose" ever since (IMO) ...

His supreme confidence has been lost.

Nothing you said is outside of what he said, except some additional statement that you provide no argument for.

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Maybe he is what TS says he is, but the guy has class, speaks well and upholds his ethics and morals to a high standard. I don’t know Robert Whittaker personally, but I admire the man I’ve seen in action and how he verbally represents himself

No argument, Robert Whittaker is a class act..

But that's not what I pay $86 to see.
When I pay that kind of money, I want to see A Savage.

Really watch the first Adesanya fight — Robert comes out as a Savage.
No complaints, he's trying to kill — and he gets killed, in so trying.
BRAVO — fighting spirits quenched, regardless of the outcome

Then watch the second Adesanya fight: a boring shit-fest.
Wouldn't pay $0.20 to see that shit again.

Robert was overly cautious, Adesanya was overly cautious, just a funking waste of time.

Israel Adesanya emasculated Robert Whittaker the first fight, and I'm sticking to my opinion.

 

[Lost_Cause]

Vettori eats 241 total strikes against Cannonier, doesn't get finished or even dropped for that matter. Whittaker doesn't finish him despite soundly outclassing him and hurting him multiple times? He's a point fighter.

Gastelum is known for an iron chin and has never been finished by strikes in 26 fights. Whittaker outstrikes him 169 to 70 but doesn't finish him. He's a point fighter.

Cannonier has never been finished at Middleweight, was knocked down by Bobby who also broke his arm and soundly beat him, but Whittaker didn't get the finish. He's a point fighter.

Till has 23 career fights and has never been finished by strikes at Middleweight. Whittaker beats him, lands more strikes at 100 to 50 and drops him. No finish? He's a point fighter.

Whittaker's last five opponents not named Israel Adesanya have fought 120 times in their careers. They've only been finished by strikes four total times in their careers.

Damn point fighters.

In before complaints about card cost - which you likely don't purchase anyway - and you bringing up gladiators, fights to the death or doing mental gymnastics to hate on fighters who's style or approach you don't enjoy...

You left no meat on the bone. Completely shredded TS.

 

[xhaydenx]

Let's cut to the chase, Whittaker used to be a fighter, now he's a point fighter.

Adesanya basically castrated Whittaker.

If we look at the "UFC only" stats, realize this:

• Before Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker had 13 UFC Fights (11 Wins, 2 Losses, 5 KOs) - 1 loss by KO

Since being brutally KO'd / exposed by Adesanya,

• After Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker has had 5 UFC Fights (4 Wins, 1 Loss, 0 KOs) - no further KO losses.

Anyone who watches the first Adesanya fight, compared to the second Adesanya fight, can see Whittaker is 100x more cautious since being annihilated.

His style is too cautious now, boring and lame.
He completely let Cannonier off the hook.

Yeah, I am a "Bobby Knuckles" fan, or at least I was — but I am actually hoping du Plessis embarrasses Whittaker and sends him back into retirement.

I don't want to watch ANY ONE fight "not to lose" ... will not pay money for this ... Including those people who used to be my favorites.

Lol. What a shit take.

His KOs before Izzy in the UFC didn't come against great fighters. We're talking Colton Smith lol, Hester, Tavares. Other's include Jacare who isn't much of a striker and Brunson, who can only really wrestle and just tried to brawl.

After Izzy he fought TIll and Cannon, who are better strikers than those he finished, and Marvin and Gastelum, who are probably the two hardest to finish guys in the divisiion, if not any division.

Whittaker has always been cautious when it made sense. His KOs came against low level guys or guys who came at him hard.

And yeh, of course he was more cautious against Izzy after getting KOd. That's because he, you know, got KOd lol. What do you expect him to do? Go in even more reckless and get KOd even easier just so you can pretend you were always a fan and not call him a point fighter?

You just seem to have no clue what you're talking about here.

 

[TankAbbott4Eva]

It’s amazing how fighters struggle to finish as they reach the elite level, it’s like the best fighters are harder to finish or something

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Lol. What a shit take.

His KOs before Izzy in the UFC didn't come against great fighters. We're talking Colton Smith lol, Hester, Tavares. Other's include Jacare who isn't much of a striker and Brunson, who can only really wrestle and just tried to brawl.

After Izzy he fought TIll and Cannon, who are better strikers than those he finished, and Marvin and Gastelum, who are probably the two hardest to finish guys in the divisiion, if not any division.

Whittaker has always been cautious when it made sense. His KOs came against low level guys or guys who came at him hard.

And yeh, of course he was more cautious against Izzy after getting KOd. That's because he, you know, got KOd lol. What do you expect him to do? Go in even more reckless and get KOd even easier just so you can pretend you were always a fan and not call him a point fighter?

You just seem to have no clue what you're talking about here.

I have a clue.

Really watch Robert Whittaker, and his persona, in first Izzy fight":
Whittaker = 100% confident he's going to get the finish.

Then, really watch, Robert Whittaker, and his persona in the second Izzy fight: a scared competitor, Whittaker = "trying to win": Sickening/

In the subsequent Whittaker bouts, even when he has legit hurt his opponents, he is still "holding back" ... for fear of retribution.

It's okay that we disagree, but I know when I am seeing ... a fighter trying to kill ... vs a fighter trying to "win on points" ....

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

OP is that dude at the gym whose always talking about how if people weren't simply so damned defensive (aka smart), unwilling to engage (aka letting you make mistakes), and weak (aka skillful) he'd win every freaking roll. I'd win them all man, come atttttttt meeeee broooooo.....

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

OP is that dude at the gym whose always talking about how if people weren't simply so damned defensive (aka smart), unwilling to engage (aka letting you make mistakes), and weak (aka skillful) he'd win every freaking roll. I'd win them all man, come atttttttt meeeee broooooo.....

Reconcile This:

Whittaker = NO FINISH since ... HE has been Finished ....

My mistake ... or ... could I have accurately revealed Whittaker's testicular retraction, since his Adesanya KO?

Watch Whittaker x Adesanya I; then
Watch Whittaker x Adesanya II; then

Report back to me ...

 

[knock_you_out]

Are you really paying to watch, TS??

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

Are you really paying to watch, TS??

Tomorrow?

Yes, I will pay.

 

[Yep]

You’re not a Bobby knuckles fan. And that’s fine. You’re a just bleed fan. Also fine. Same crying as GSP. I enjoyed GSP dismantle mofos and dominate. Point fighting or not. It’s a beautiful thing to watch. A piece of art one might say. And like any art it is subjective. But one does not simply say hey I hate Picasso just because he has drawn a few pieces of art in a different style. That style isn’t for you. And again, that’s ok. But recognize, the problem isn’t with Robert, the problem is that you are full expectations that aren’t his.

 

[Dimbis]

Let's cut to the chase, Whittaker used to be a fighter, now he's a point fighter.

Adesanya basically castrated Whittaker.

If we look at the "UFC only" stats, realize this:

• Before Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker had 13 UFC Fights (11 Wins, 2 Losses, 5 KOs) - 1 loss by KO

Since being brutally KO'd / exposed by Adesanya,

• After Adesanya, in the UFC, Whittaker has had 5 UFC Fights (4 Wins, 1 Loss, 0 KOs) - no further KO losses.

Anyone who watches the first Adesanya fight, compared to the second Adesanya fight, can see Whittaker is 100x more cautious since being annihilated.

His style is too cautious now, boring and lame.
He completely let Cannonier off the hook.

Yeah, I am a "Bobby Knuckles" fan, or at least I was — but I am actually hoping du Plessis embarrasses Whittaker and sends him back into retirement.

I don't want to watch ANY ONE fight "not to lose" ... will not pay money for this ... Including those people who used to be my favorites.

You’re comparing stats between a 13 fight series and 5 fight series.

 

[Contempt]

Rob has many obnoxious fans being from Australia adjacent, who drown any criticism put his way. Hopefully Dircus somehow knocks him out rather than getting point jabbed away.

I don't know if he will get finished but Dricus will be badly beaten up and dropped.

 

[Contempt]

Word.

Used to be a Whittaker fan, now want to see him lose.

So sick of his "overly-friendly interviews" ... I want to see a killer, trying to kill, when I pay $89 for a PPP event.

I wouldn't give two squirts of piss to see "a friendly exchange" between peers ... followed by "a hug" after a non-combative sparring match.

If you actually look at the absolute beatdown that Rob put on those guys and their faces afterwards but still think they were "sparring matches" I don't know what to tell you dude...

Do you believe you get to the top of the rankings in the UFC MW division while not being tough as hell and difficult as fuck to finish?

 

[Edward Henry Greb]

You’re not a Bobby knuckles fan. And that’s fine. You’re a just bleed fan. Also fine. Same crying as GSP. I enjoyed GSP dismantle mofos and dominate. Point fighting or not. It’s a beautiful thing to watch. A piece of art one might say. And like any art it is subjective. But one does not simply say hey I hate Picasso just because he has drawn a few pieces of art in a different style. That style isn’t for you. And again, that’s ok. But recognize, the problem isn’t with Robert, the problem is that you are full expectations that aren’t his.

I *WAS*a Bobby knuckles fan ... but no more.

I will pay $0 money to watch "a fearful competitor" avoid danger.

Robert Whittaker was never this — until he got decimated by Adesanya.

Now, I don't want to see Robert Whittaker fight anymore.

I don't pay money to see fighters "trying not to lose" ... I pay to see fighters trying to finish and win.

 

[NoStoneUnturned]

OP as a toddler ...