International Riot in Sweden.

[Bald1]

Well if they are the ones that are actively arguing with me, and they are saying I “talk out of my ass” it holds little weight since they are losing basically every argument.

Do you live in Sweden? If not, then stfu.

Apples, how do you like them?

 

[panem-et-circenses]

The great part about Sweden is once you get out of the major cities, and travel a bit, you will find super-educated hillbilly-types walking around without shoes

 

[lsa]

The great part about Sweden is once you get out of the major cities, and travel a bit, you will find super-educated hillbilly-types walking around without shoes

Only during winter

 

[So Fresh]

Do you live in Sweden? If not, then stfu.

Apples, how do you like them?

No but I know people here who live there

 

[Bald1]

No but I know people here who live there

People you argue with. Rules for thee but not for me, right? Your consistency game sucks.

 

[So Fresh]

People you argue with. Rules for thee but not for me, right? Your consistency game sucks.

It’s sarcasm lol. But yeah telling you to stfu was uncalled for, I admit my guilt

 

[12ga.]

I like how people say violence isnt the answer when any real changes in societies its always violence that makes it happen from labor to civil rights struggles...

Anyway...

“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

 

[Bald1]

It’s sarcasm lol. But yeah telling you to stfu was uncalled for, I admit my guilt

Meh, I don't mind shit talking as I have a foul mouth. All good. The only thing I take acception to is misrepresenting my views.

And to be clear, my view on multiculturalism is that it just flat out doesn't work. And this is just one more example of that in the long history of mankind. Mixing an intolerant society with a tolerant one will inevitably lead to conflict. And Islam is about as intolerant as it gets.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

know the difference.
it might save your life.

 

[Wadtucket]

know the difference.
it might save your life.

That's racist

Ask a polack how much they like having a bunch of ukies as neighbors, walking around in sweatpants outdoors and eating fish straight out of cans

 

[Bald1]

know the difference.
it might save your life.

Take it with a grain of salt, but the good people of Altenmarkt long for the day when their town hosted refugees and immigrants from behind the iron curtain instead of the most recent crop of people seeking help. Not like they were very warm to us, but it was all families and kids who kept our heads down and we tried to stay invisible. We didn't even riot if we didn't get Nutella. Oh the good old days.

 

[IX_Equilibrium]

And to be clear, my view on multiculturalism is that it just flat out doesn't work.

I think it can work.

Mixing an intolerant society with a tolerant one will inevitably lead to conflict. And Islam is about as intolerant as it gets.

But this point is undeniable in certain countries, yours included.

 

[Bald1]

I think it can work.



But this point is undeniable in certain countries, yours included.

In a republic with hard lines drawn as to what is or is not permissable it can work on theory. It sure as hell didn't work when the old country was established or when Canada was also. Both examples of one society completely dominating and wiping out the old. Same as anywhere Islam plants it's flag.

Theory is one thing, reality is completely different. The same people who think communism is a good idea think multiculturalism can work. Delusional ideologues, in other words.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

Take it with a grain of salt, but the good people of Altenmarkt long for the day when their town hosted refugees and immigrants from behind the iron curtain instead of the most recent crop of people seeking help. Not like they were very warm to us, but it was all families and kids who kept our heads down and we tried to stay invisible. We didn't even riot if we didn't get Nutella. Oh the good old days.

eastern euros immigrants, no matter how lowly, are always one generation away from notable achievement pretty much wherever we go.
dad comes as a mechanic or washes the toilets, kid goes to London School of Economics, more often than not.

 

[So Fresh]

And to be clear, my view on multiculturalism is that it just flat out doesn't work. And this is just one more example of that in the long history of mankind. Mixing an intolerant society with a tolerant one will inevitably lead to conflict. And Islam is about as intolerant as it gets.

Well I strongly disagree and imo you’re making two mistakes here:

1. that Islam is homogenic and inherently intolerant
2. That the west is homogenic and inherently tolerant

Both are false and contradictory. If you’re against muslims you’re being intolerant so you’re basically doing the same of what you’re blaming muslims for.

And history shows that multicultural societies do work, I even listed some examples before of societies/ nations/ empires or whatever who fared well because or their tolerance to an open society and multicultural community.

The US wasn’t so much immigration (of course people were immigrating but the context was different) as it was colonization.

Also there are almost no societies which didn’t have some form of immigration, especially in Europe.

But yeah I feel like a lot of people already have their mind made up and are deaf or indifferent to the factual reality of multiculturalism and immigration, so it’s tough changing people’s mind.[/QUOTE]

 

[Bald1]

Well I strongly disagree and imo you’re making two mistakes here:

1. that Islam is homogenic and inherently intolerant
2. That the west is homogenic and inherently tolerant

Both are false and contradictory. If you’re against muslims you’re being intolerant so you’re basically doing the same of what you’re blaming muslims for.

And history shows that multicultural societies do work, I even listed some examples before of societies/ nations/ empires or whatever who fared well because or their tolerance to an open society and multicultural community.

The US wasn’t so much immigration (of course people were immigrating but the context was different) as it was colonization.

Also there are almost no societies which didn’t have some form of immigration, especially in Europe.

But yeah I feel like a lot of people already have their mind made up and are deaf or indifferent to the factual reality of multiculturalism and immigration, so it’s tough changing people’s mind.

[/QUOTE]
Yeah, remember that bit about misrepresenting my position? You're doing it.

<{Red Card}>

 

[So Fresh]

I like how people say violence isnt the answer when any real changes in societies its always violence that makes it happen from labor to civil rights struggles...

Anyway...

“The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion […] but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.”

― Samuel P. Huntington, The Clash of Civilizations and the Remaking of World Order

This is actually very true. If someone is guilty of pushing their culture onto others with violence it’s the west. Everywhere we came, we came with gun and sword in hand.

 

[So Fresh]

="Bald1, post: 168016061, member: 48623"
Yeah, remember that bit about misrepresenting my position? You're doing it.

How? You said multiculturalism didn’t work right and muslims are intolerant? What am I missing?

 

[Bald1]

Yeah, remember that bit about misrepresenting my position? You're doing it.

How? You said multiculturalism didn’t work right and muslims are intolerant? What am I missing?[/QUOTE]
You are not your ideology. Your ideology isn't above reproach.

Islam is garbage and intolerant. Thankfully most Muslims are better than their faith.

 

[panem-et-circenses]

How? You said multiculturalism didn’t work right and muslims are intolerant? What am I missing?

You are not your ideology. Your ideology isn't above reproach.

Islam is garbage and intolerant. Thankfully most Muslims are better than their faith.[/QUOTE]

Will you answer the ultimate question of this thread: have you ever kissed a Muslim?