Putting a limit on how much weight a fighter can cut

Weight matters a lot in MMA especially when control is such a big part of the scoring. If people really believe these big weight cuts don't matter so much than why don't so many Anderson fans want him to fight Jones at 205 and so many GSP fans want him to fight Anderson at 185 or even a catch weight? Again, weight matters a lot in MMA.

If the weight didn't matter these guys wouldn't be fucking up their kidneys cutting weight. Definetly agree that size is a major factor.

While weightclasses are kinda stupid if no one actually weighs their advertised weight there is really no other way to keep things close fair. One can only venture so far from 170 for example and still make the weight.

The thing that undermines the whole situation is people freak out if a middle weight is a few pounds over but you got heavyweights 30lbs apart
 
Some people need to learn the difference between walk around weight and pre-cut weight. Just because a guy is 30 lbs over before camp, that does not mean he is cutting that much weight. A lot of it comes off on its own during training camp.

This is an important point. Lets use Yushin Okami as an example, he is a very large middleweight, a 200+ pound man. It has been reported that he starts his cut from around 196, the same as GSP.
 
How the fuck would you implement this?

This is on the lines of 'let's make crime illegal' as a genius rule.

CONSEQUENCES.
 
Weight matters a lot in MMA especially when control is such a big part of the scoring. If people really believe these big weight cuts don't matter so much than why don't so many Anderson fans want him to fight Jones at 205 and so many GSP fans want him to fight Anderson at 185 or even a catch weight? Again, weight matters a lot in MMA.

they are not the same size so they fight in different divisions , everybody knows Cain-Aldo isn't a fair fight , your point sucks honestly
 
In seriousness though if this were implemented there'd need to be more weight classes, which would thin out the divs.
 
Why don't they just have the fighter go in front of a committee and have that committee tell them what weight class they are in. Seems so much easier since that's the basis of these arguments.
 
This is an important point. Lets use Yushin Okami as an example, he is a very large middleweight, a 200+ pound man. It has been reported that he starts his cut from around 196, the same as GSP.

Then he'd be back at around 196 for the fight which is almost 10 lbs over. See he's already doing it.
 
If they can make weight then they get to fight, despite how much they had to cut. Cutting a lot of weight always has negative consequences, a lot of the time just as much consequences as benefits from having a size advantage. Gleison Tibau isn't wrecking the LW division cuz' of how much he cuts, Anthony Johnson wasn't ruling over the WW division cuz' of how much he cuts, and Bigfoot Silva isn't destroying every HW that crosses his path just cuz' he has to cut to make 265.

The only real argument there are for having weight-cut limits is for the health of the fighters, and even then when you look into the details of training and cutting weight, then if you do it properly it's not gonna do any more damage to your body that stepping into a confined area to fight another person's gonna do. Urijah Faber said that he has to cut 20 pounds to make BW, and he just figured out the science behind how his body works and is able to make the cut much easier-- two things I recall him saying were that he sweats out 6-8 pounds of water every day during training anyways, so the trick is to just trick his body during the week of the weigh ins by ingesting more electrolytes and stuff, and that a lot of fighters do a water-only cleanse during the week, which isn't as healthy as drinking a coconut water or something cuz' a pound of liquid's a pound of liquid, but one way you get some nutrients from ingesting it and your body isn't as drained, whereas the other you get nothing out of it. Also, the way he described it made it seem like that was only the tip of the iceberg, and that there's a lot more science and shit to cutting weight than just that.
 
Every fighter cuts weight the way it's best for them, so it's already a level playing field.

Maybe they should weigh-in as they're walking to the ring or the octagon. Then no-one would cut. If they don't make weight, cancel the fight and have naked chicks mud-wrestle for 3*5 mins (5*5 for the belt)

Would be a win-win.
 
What does that have to do with anything? One of the GSP fans from that thread who hates me the most agrees with me.

My mistake, I got the impression you were one of the people campaigning to make sure that that particular fight never happens.
 
they are not the same size so they fight in different divisions , everybody knows Cain-Aldo isn't a fair fight , your point sucks honestly

Right because Edgar and Bendo were the same size. Your point is worse.
 
If someone puts too much weight back on they lose half their purse like they when someone misses weight. The fight wouldn't have to be cancelled.

Any fighter who can't stay within 10 lbs of their weight class would have to jump up a division and fight where they are closer to the actual weight class. They might have to add a 195 and 215-225 division though.

If there were more HW's that would be easier.

So what if a champ can't do this , is he stripped
 
So they should do a pre-weigh in before the weigh-in?
 
Right because Edgar and Bendo were the same size. Your point is worse.

Again.

Edgar is a featherweight, possibly bantamweight. You're saying that the entire lightweight division is too big because ONE featherweight chooses to fight above his weight?

Edgar knew he was an undersized LW, could fight in a lower weight class but fought at LW anyway. That doesn't make the playing field uneven.
 
TS who cuts and rehydrates 30lbs before fightnight?
 
Then he'd be back at around 196 for the fight which is almost 10 lbs over. See he's already doing it.

Doing what? I'm still not seeing the problem. He makes the weight he is contracted to fight at, he isn't gaining any sort of advantage from naturally weighing more than that.
 
So if say Machida weighed in at 202 would he be allowed to go up to 212 or 215
 
ts, i get what you are saying, brush off these kids yapping about "that is a stupid idea"

funny watching guys announced coming in at 135 pounds, and they are standing there looking like ww.
 
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