Prime Fedor Emelianenko vs. Stipe Miocic

[Taric]

Stipe is a 34 year old fighting 38-43 year olds.
Fedor was 25-28 at the top of his game.

I'm not sure how you can compare the two. You gotta go with the younger and more athletic guy who, ironically, would have had more experience as well.

 

[Final Say]

Stipe is a 34 year old fighting 38-43 year olds.
Fedor was 25-28 at the top of his game.

I'm not sure how you can compare the two. You gotta go with the younger and more athletic guy who, ironically, would have had more experience as well.

More athletic?

<DrakeLaugh>

 

[Taric]

More athletic?

<DrakeLaugh>

Nobody in their mid-thirties is as athletic as they were in their mid-twenties. No offense, but unless you're new to sports I'm not sure how you can think otherwise. I mean, are you in your 30s? I am. Shit doesn't work like it used to.

I would've loved to see Stipe start his career at a young age. That would've been great.

 

[KOskater]

Stipe is a 'titan' now ?

When the HW record is in UFC is 2 Title Defesnse yes he is elible for HOF now joining club of 3 other HWs only in 20 years out of how many top HWs ???

 

[Dionysian]

One dominated the HW division in its prime
The other is on a 2-defense streak of the same guys in the HW division but 10 years older

I like Stipe but unless you swallow some BS about "new breed cuz UFC said so" we shouldn't get ahead of ourselves here

 

[in the liver]

Sorry Stipe, I like you and all, but....Fedor.

Maybe I'll feel differently after seeing a few more title defenses.

im not trying to be a dick but when was the last time you actually watched a fedor fight? it was a very different time. watching old fedor fights, it looks nooby as shit. obviously thats the best they had then but it looks awful now. stipe inside one minute

 

[olimpicus]

More athletic?

<DrakeLaugh>

incredible speed, agile submissions, high kicks, elite judo/wrestling at the time. Yeah, Fedor was really athletic maybe more than Stipe

 

[bigbangspiritbomb]

against hendo? that fight was stopped way to early, but it was still a great fight - every1 ages diffrently. Klitschko had his prime betwee 34 - 37. Torres 30, Tyson in young years, Casialls began to suck after 30, Lewis 32 and my uncle with 29 and buffon is still with the age of 40 great. Even i could see it, that he wasnt that fast and stuff anymore.Ronaldinho also lost the interest (with 30 i think) when he almost reached everything.

It is evident that there is a common age for fighter prime but, no guarantee as it is very much so individual. Likely, tied to aesthetics and genetics. I agree that not everyone peaks or declines at the sametime as you noted above.

The problem I have is, Fedor went on a bender of can crushing, on ducking UFC, on ducking Reem x2 (if you want the link, BJ PEN DOT COM) followed by the 3 fight losing streak including a MW punching him rd 1 Said MW has a 9-12 UFC record on TRT.

Finally, Fedor excused his ducking Reem twice because of Steroids/PEDs/GEAR yet, he then fights TRT BF, and Hendo with his absurd elevation of test. This is flawed logic. What he thought was that, he would easily beat these fighters who finished him excusing Reem ducking who at the time, never tested positive (correct me here if I am wrong).

Fedor vs Reem was the only fight I cared for in SF. Given Fedor power punching and Reem's suspect chin at best, there is no excuse for this fight not happening. How many fighters did Fedor fight who used PEDs? Used more then once?

 

[Venom]

I love Fedor he was one of the guys who got me into MMA.

But Stipe Miocic, 6'4" and with some pretty dangerous hands you cannot say Miocic would have no chance.

Fedor must fight carefully....

 

[Mixfight]

Prime, Pride Fedor was 100x faster than Stipe. He would beat the absolute shit out of him.

Strikeforce Fedor was a shell of that and would still have somewhat of a chance against Stipe which is radical.

 

[MysticCam]

No, that's just ignorant.

Ok mr subjective my opinion is right guy

 

[MyEnglishIsPeperoni]

Fedor got out boxed by MW Fabio, KTFO by MW Hendo.

I dont care how old or out of shape you are. One does not lose to fucking Fabio.

How can he beat a man who towers over him, can play in the MLB, really good wrestler, golden gloves boxer with a 80" reach?

C'mon son.

It is evident that there is a common age for fighter prime but, no guarantee as it is very much so individual. Likely, tied to aesthetics and genetics. I agree that not everyone peaks or declines at the sametime as you noted above.

The problem I have is, Fedor went on a bender of can crushing, on ducking UFC, on ducking Reem x2 (if you want the link, BJ PEN DOT COM) followed by the 3 fight losing streak including a MW punching him rd 1 Said MW has a 9-12 UFC record on TRT.

Finally, Fedor excused his ducking Reem twice because of Steroids/PEDs/GEAR yet, he then fights TRT BF, and Hendo with his absurd elevation of test. This is flawed logic. What he thought was that, he would easily beat these fighters who finished him excusing Reem ducking who at the time, never tested positive (correct me here if I am wrong).

Fedor vs Reem was the only fight I cared for in SF. Given Fedor power punching and Reem's suspect chin at best, there is no excuse for this fight not happening. How many fighters did Fedor fight who used PEDs? Used more then once?

which deal? the big ufc deal? which time did he duck UFC? Ofc there were cans . every1 fought cans (good fighters, semi good, shit fighters) --> mike tyson/roy jones jr/ klitschko

Back then --> PRIDE FC was like the champion league and ufc (kenia champion league). Every elite fighter (esp. HW) went to PRIDE FC, because there was the money, fighters werent treated like shit ... just like the ufc did and still does.

so which deal do you mean? the big deal? here is your answer
http://insidepulse.com/2014/11/04/f...fered-fedor-a-deal-just-beat-around-the-bush/

didnt read all, because you could not even find such an easy information (dont get me wrong).

 

[mjfan23]

Yeah, because that's exactly what it is about.

I guess you could say that Fedor has a lot of dedicated "fans" on internet mma forums, but you all are a bunch of nostalgic that never trained a day in your life and don't have even the slightest knowledge about fighting.

One could be a "fan", in a healthy sort of way, then there are a blind nut huggers making threads about Fedor every other day.

Only thing funnier than fedor fans? Fedor haters trying to discredit the guy over and over. Comparing him to every flavor of the month champion ever, hoping somehow to dethrone who most perceive as GOAT.
Your comment about not training, fighting etc. Is so hypocritical it's sad, most fighter, trainers and analyst have said fedor was the best ever. So take your blind bias else where.

 

[ANGEL7000]

10 year unbeaten streak>>>2 and 1/2 year undefeated streak + stipe has already been defeated 2x legitly.

Also most of the guys stipe is making a name off average age is like 36-37 years old and have been fighting 15-20, and/or out of their primes (hunt, jds, overeem, werdum is almost 40)

Fedora wins. Better win streak, didn't lose in his prime years, and better resume, plus was a machine in the early 2000s.

FEDOR DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPOSITION STIPE HAS. STIPE TKFO JUNIOR DOS SANTOS , WERDUM , OVEREEM AND HE IS GOING TO BEAT VELASQUEZ TOO.

 

[Towerworld]

76% of people voted for the guy who was destroyed by bigfoot and a geriatric MW?

This forum is even stupider than I expected.

 

[HendoIsChamp]

You can't really compare. Fedors prime was in an organization that didn't test for steroids.

 

[Final Say]

Stipe would have absolutely owned him. Fedor's only hope would be a submission from his back which he would never get the chance at. Stipe beats him standing quite easily and works him worse on the ground than anyone else did, including Bigfoot

 

[Final Say]

Prime, Pride Fedor was 100x faster than Stipe. He would beat the absolute shit out of him.

Strikeforce Fedor was a shell of that and would still have somewhat of a chance against Stipe which is radical.

Speed alone isn't enough. Stipe is a far advanced striker technically speaking and far bigger.

 

[lukeuidswords]

Stipe would have absolutely owned him. Fedor's only hope would be a submission from his back which he would never get the chance at. Stipe beats him standing quite easily and works him worse on the ground than anyone else did, including Bigfoot

Miocic has no defense standing and a crackable chin. To say Fedor would have no chance standing, when he beat Cro Cop up on the feet, is ludicrous.

 

[lukeuidswords]

The guy that got stopped inside two rounds by Spaghetti Arms Struve would spank Prime Fedor. Ok.

Put down the crackpipes boys.