Patterson Gimlin Bigfoot Video

[Deleted member 577981]

The main reason I don't dismiss Bigfoot as readily as other skeptics is because of the consistentcy of sightings over the years. Yeah, Sasquatch seems improbable, but so does the idea that so many different people are either full of shit or experiencing mass hysteria sometimes centuries and hundreds of miles removed from each other.

I wonder if the phenomenon is some kind of genetic memory or malfunctioning evolutionary response to a now extinct threat. Yet that doesn't explain those claiming to have first hand encounters.

I guess as much of a misanthrope as I can be at times, I have a tough time condemning hundreds of people of all backgrounds as kooks scam artists en masse.

this guy https://www.youtube.com/user/proguide66 has spent more time hunting and living day and night in the woods than in his home. not hyperbole. he has shared some crazy things he has experienced out in the woods. hes a professional hunting guide in canada and his stance is the same as yours. too many quality people that know what they are doing in the woods see them.

some of the things he has shared are pretty intense. i really ought to have this stuff stored in files so i dont have to redo it so here is, but way redacted. he has also had two direct sightings of bigfoot. nobody on the planet is much more qualified than him to identity animals in the woods.

bare bones--

they pack supplies ten days off trail into the woods on horses and mules.

they build platforms from topped trees 15 feet off the ground with power tools. 3/4 inch plywood and lag bolts.

they then wrap the trees in sheet metal so nothing can climb them.

they put a whole camp supply (no food) on the platform, tarp it down and strap it all down with ratchet straps. the whole point is that these are animal proof and especially grizzly proof. its common practice.

then they ride out and later bring high paying customers to these pristine sites as guides.

nobody knows where these are but them and like i said 10 fucking days off trail by horse. think about what that means man.......

more than once he has come upon these platforms with customers and the whole site is wrecked. he said plywood has been wrenched off the lag bolts and thrown away so fast that one stuck in the ground... the lag bolts (think screws as thick as your finger) are bent and mangled. once a 150 pound canvas wall tent was found 100 yards away unopened but with no teeth marks or signs on the canvas.

in fact there are no bite marks of any kind on any of the supplies even though much of it is mangled....


that stuff is just crazy man. imagine coming to a site you built in the middle of nowhere, no roads, no trails and seeing that......

 

[superpunch]

Evolutionary scientists are perplexed how man made the leap in brain size and other massive changes from pre-man to modern man

It's like there is a page or two missing

this guy https://www.youtube.com/user/proguide66 has spent more time hunting and living day and night in the woods than in his home. not hyperbole. he has shared some crazy things he has experienced out in the woods. hes a professional hunting guide in canada and his stance is the same as yours. too many quality people that know what they are doing in the woods see them.

some of the things he has shared are pretty intense. i really ought to have this stuff stored in files so i dont have to redo it so here is, but way redacted. he has also had two direct sightings of bigfoot. nobody on the planet is much more qualified than him to identity animals in the woods.

bare bones--

they pack supplies ten days off trail into the woods on horses and mules.

they build platforms from topped trees 15 feet off the ground with power tools. 3/4 inch plywood and lag bolts.

they then wrap the trees in sheet metal so nothing can climb them.

they put a whole camp supply (no food) on the platform, tarp it down and strap it all down with ratchet straps. the whole point is that these are animal proof and especially grizzly proof. its common practice.

then they ride out and later bring high paying customers to these pristine sites as guides.

nobody knows where these are but them and like i said 10 fucking days off trail by horse. think about what that means man.......

more than once he has come upon these platforms with customers and the whole site is wrecked. he said plywood has been wrenched off the lag bolts and thrown away so fast that one stuck in the ground... the lag bolts (think screws as thick as your finger) are bent and mangled. once a 150 pound canvas wall tent was found 100 yards away unopened but with no teeth marks or signs on the canvas.

in fact there are no bite marks of any kind on any of the supplies even though much of it is mangled....


that stuff is just crazy man. imagine coming to a site you built in the middle of nowhere, no roads, no trails and seeing that......

Dude the entire world has photos taken of it. There are satellites just flying around mapping every square inch of the planet. You can go on Google Earth and look at the entire world. Look for Bigfoot. He doesn't show up just once anywhere in the world. If he's real then how can that be possible? It's the same with flying saucers, they're just not there.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Dude the entire world has photos taken of it. There are satellites just flying around mapping every square inch of the planet. You can go on Google Earth and look at the entire world. Look for Bigfoot. He doesn't show up just once anywhere in the world. If he's real then how can that be possible? It's the same with flying saucers, they're just not there.

was the post above from you a joke then?

also read my other post -- well everyone's really so people don't have to catch you up on the conversation. #496 from me for example.

here is your post--

Reality is only as we perceive it. After all, our senses only bring in a small amount of the information around us. Many stuff like thermal, high pitched sounds, tachyons, neutrinos, dark matter, etc. are simply out of our ability to perceive but are still very real. It is likely that Bigfoot and other phenomena that we encounter as "paranormal" fit into this paradigm. They are very real but in a way that we don't have the ability to perceive yet. Yet, sometimes they do briefly cross into our ability to perceive.

 

[superpunch]

was the post above from you a joke then?

also read my other post -- well everyone's really so people don't have to catch you up on the conversation. #496 from me for example.

here is your post--

Reality is only as we perceive it. After all, our senses only bring in a small amount of the information around us. Many stuff like thermal, high pitched sounds, tachyons, neutrinos, dark matter, etc. are simply out of our ability to perceive but are still very real. It is likely that Bigfoot and other phenomena that we encounter as "paranormal" fit into this paradigm. They are very real but in a way that we don't have the ability to perceive yet. Yet, sometimes they do briefly cross into our ability to perceive.

Yeah it was a joke. If you're at the point of saying Bigfoot is a ghost spirit, come on.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

Yeah it was a joke. If you're at the point of saying Bigfoot is a ghost spirit, come on.

damn man. i call that lying and have no respect for it or you. fuck off and if you derail this thread even a little more im going to report you.

 

[SirRealKiller]

I'm pretty sure there's tons of species in the rainforest and such we don't know about.

Yes, but they are not the size of Bigfoot, most likely, and being spotted in many places where people frequent.

 

[Monkadelic]

The above two videos, which I suspect to be authentic, show some consistent morphology between the subjects. The second video is very brief, but you can still see a good shot of the subject's form as it walks off trail.

These look/feel fake to me.

In the first one I think it moves just like a lump of a bloke. Doesn't move with the sure-footedness I'd expect of an animal that lives in that environment.

And I'd expect any dog to react even slightly to an unknown animal anywhere near them, nevermind directly in front of them. The fact that the dog isn't interested at all suggests to me that it already knows full well who that is in front of them.

 

[BearGrounds]

These look/feel fake to me.

In the first one I think it moves just like a lump of a bloke. Doesn't move with the sure-footedness I'd expect of an animal that lives in that environment.

And I'd expect any dog to react even slightly to an unknown animal anywhere near them, nevermind directly in front of them. The fact that the dog isn't interested at all suggests to me that it already knows full well who that is in front of them.

Good points, and I take no issue with anybody thinking they're fakes. That's entirely fair.

One of the things that makes it believable for me (Freeman video), is the stride. You can see the push-off calf come up if you look closely (first stride out from behind tree), and this could be consistent with the vertical foot that we see in the PG film. The stride is also quite long, which is consistent with track data. Sure, it looked down, but that's bad terrain, not an open sand bar like what Patty strode across. The bulk of the subject looks more solid to me (meaning real mass beneath the hair) than it does a costume worn over someone's body.

Looking down I imagine happens from time to time based on terrain, as they cannot afford a busted leg. One of the casts that Convinced Grover Krantz was that of a hobbled individual.

I think the Freeman footage could be real, but I could be wrong.

Yea, I said in a later post that I was bothered by the non-reaction of the dog. I wouldn't expect that, especially when often reports talk of dogs being pretty weary upon scenting one or encountering one. Some dogs are just dumb as rocks though, and will run up on anything. Can't tell if that's a herding dog breed or not.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a fake. I was mainly just intrigued by the forward slope and bulk, which I thought similar to the Freeman subject.

 

[Monkadelic]

Good points, and I take no issue with anybody thinking they're fakes. That's entirely fair.

One of the things that makes it believable for me (Freeman video), is the stride. You can see the push-off calf come up if you look closely (first stride out from behind tree), and this could be consistent with the vertical foot that we see in the PG film. The stride is also quite long, which is consistent with track data. Sure, it looked down, but that's bad terrain, not an open sand bar like what Patty strode across. The bulk of the subject looks more solid to me (meaning real mass beneath the hair) than it does a costume worn over someone's body.

I think the Freeman footage could be real, but I could be wrong.

Yea, I said in a later post that I was bothered by the non-reaction of the dog. I wouldn't expect that, especially when often reports talk of dogs being pretty weary upon scenting one or encountering one. Some dogs are just dumb as rocks though, and will run up on anything. Can't tell if that's a herding dog breed or not.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if it was a fake. I was mainly just intrigued by the forward slope and bulk, which I thought similar to the Freeman subject.

For what it's worth, it looks like it might be a Bernese Mountain dog. That doesn't necessarily mean anything though. We've got a border collie and in most respects it's nothing like a typical example of his breed.

 

[IloveTHIS]

It's the same with flying saucers, they're just not there.

I dont believe in BF but this comment caught my curiosity.

I'm wondering what you think of the US government openly admitting to the fact the UAPs are real and around all the time.

Do you think they are lying for some grand motive?

 

[BearGrounds]

For what it's worth, it looks like it might be a Bernese Mountain dog. That doesn't necessarily mean anything though. We've got a border collie and in most respects it's nothing like a typical example of his breed.

To further talk about why one might look down, this is the Bossburg track. This is one of the tracks that convinced Grover Krants the creature is real:

Here's a link with a long description of the situation surrounding the discovery of the Bossberg prints:
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/articles/bossburg.htm

The Anthropologist Speaks: Grover Krantz and the Scientific Case for Sasquatch, Part One

“This is a cast of an individual that is very obviously crippled,” Krantz said of the specimens during a notable appearance on the In Search Of… television program. “I studied this at some length and found these two bulges on the outside of the foot.

“Anatomically they have to correspond to a couple of gaps in the bones in the foot themselves.”

According to Krantz, the same resulting bulges in a normal human foot would have been in a different location. “Here,” Krantz said, “they’re shifted forward.”

So what did this mean?

“Well, anatomically this means that the ankle weight is shifted somewhat forward,” Krantz explained. “It’s not just a gigantic human foot, the leverage has been redesigned. And this happens to be redesigned just exactly the way it would have to be for an 800-pound animal.”

https://mysteriousuniverse.org/2020...d-the-scientific-case-for-sasquatch-part-one/

Lastly, this is a supposed video that has a hobbled one in it. I don't claim this one real, it's just another video floating around out there, and this conversation reminded me of it.

 

[superpunch]

I dont believe in BF but this comment caught my curiosity.

I'm wondering what you think of the US government openly admitting to the fact the UAPs are real and around all the time.

Do you think they are lying for some grand motive?

You're reading more into it than there is. It's just some video of some aircraft perfectly obeying the laws of physics as we know them.

 

[IloveTHIS]

You're reading more into it than there is. It's just some video of some aircraft perfectly obeying the laws of physics as we know them.

That's hilariously not true which makes me wonder if you've even looked into the subject.

The pilots and radar operators witnessed them doing things no ordinary aircraft can do. Just because they only give you a 3 minute long video doesnt mean that's all they have. Not to mention the pentagon saying in very plain english "we are in possession of a craft that was no made on this planet."

So either you havent looked into (no eddie bravo) or you think they are lying for some grand motive. I'm just curious which it is, since UFOs are infinitely more likely to be "real" than bigfoot. So I thought it was a pretty weird comparison.

 

[superpunch]

That's hilariously not true which makes me wonder if you've even looked into the subject..

I've read about UFOS/ aliens religiously since I was a kid. I'm familiar with the details of every case in history.

The pilots and radar operators witnessed them doing things no ordinary aircraft can do.

So, someone said they saw something. That's the story of UFOlogy forever.

Are they telling the truth? Are they just telling the truth as they see it but are mistaken? Are they lying? You have no idea. But in every case of UFOlogy before this where you can match word with some other type of evidence, it's the latter 2.

Just because they only give you a 3 minute long video doesnt mean that's all they have.

Maybe that's not all they have (or maybe it is). But that's all we have to judge. And there's nothing interesting on that video.

Not to mention the pentagon saying in very plain english "we are in possession of a craft that was no made on this planet."

That didn't happen as you think it did. If you believe that, I suggest you read about the history of people connected to the organization of the guy that said that. You'll start to find guys that were on the CIA's psychic powers program lol.

So either you havent looked into (no eddie bravo) or you think they are lying for some grand motive. I'm just curious which it is, since UFOs are infinitely more likely to be "real" than bigfoot. So I thought it was a pretty weird comparison

I've looked into it quite a bit more than you have. That's how I know it's all bullshit: some people believe the bullshit they're telling you (drugs, mental illness, just misperception, etc.), and others are just lying ($$, fame, or just for the lols). Whichever category it falls in, it's bullshit.

 

[IloveTHIS]

I've read about UFOS/ aliens religiously since I was a kid. I'm familiar with the details of every case in history.


So, someone said they saw something. That's the story of UFOlogy forever.

Are they telling the truth? Are they just telling the truth as they see it but are mistaken? Are they lying? You have no idea. But in every case of UFOlogy before this where you can match word with some other type of evidence, it's the latter 2.

Maybe that's not all they have (or maybe it is). But that's all we have to judge. And there's nothing interesting on that video.


That didn't happen as you think it did. If you believe that, I suggest you read about the history of people connected to the organization of the guy that said that. You'll start to find guys that were on the CIA's psychic powers program lol.


I've looked into it quite a bit more than you have. That's how I know it's all bullshit: some people believe the bullshit they're telling you (drugs, mental illness, just misperception, etc.), and others are just lying ($$, fame, or just the lols). Whatever category it falls in, it's bullshit.

So with the tic tac event. Not only did multiple fighter pilots see it, in person, with their own eyes, they also tracked it on multiple different days for like 2 weeks. And observed it going from 80,000 feet to like 100 feet in 1 second.

I'm curious how you explain that away. Just all lies? Or our best fighter pilots all just went full retard and confused a balloon for a craft while the radar(s) simultaneously malfunctioned?

 

[superpunch]

So with the tic tac event. Not only did multiple fighter pilots see it, in person, with their own eyes, they also tracked it on multiple different days for like 2 weeks. And observed it going from 80,000 feet to like 100 feet in 1 second.

A lot of people have said they saw a lot of shit in the history of UFOlogy. Look at the Japan Airlines pilot. It all ended up being bullshit. Interesting how none of that amazing stuff they all saw is on the video..

 

[IloveTHIS]

A lot of people have said they saw a lot of shit in the history of UFOlogy. Look at the Japan Airlines pilot. It all ended up being bullshit. Interesting how none of that amazing stuff they all saw is on the video..

Just because you havent seen it doesmt mean it's not. And it might not be super easy to capture video of something that can move like that if it doesnt want you to....

What about the Japan airline pilot? How did it end up being bullshit? Has he said he made it all up...?

 

[superpunch]

Just because you havent seen it doesmt mean it's not. And it might not be super easy to capture video of something that can move like that if it doesnt want you to....

Ok, so you have some people that said something. Lots of people say a lot of things. Great. UFOlogy has had tons of that forever.

I saw a bigfoot (their story). I got it recorded on sonar but I can't show you that data (the radar data). I got a picture (the video) though:

Yeah, this picture shows what could also be a human head and conveniently misses anything that could be specifically Bigfoot - but don't my story and sonar data prove that it's not a human head?

Do you believe me? Even if you do believe me, is this good objective evidence?

What about the Japan airline pilot? How did it end up being bullshit? Has he said he made it all up...?

That was his 5th UFO report lol.

 

[Deleted member 577981]

You guys might want to check out the 'north american wood ape conservancy". "on the trail of bigfoot" "the search" is a documentary on it.

https://www.woodape.org/

these guys do six or seven month stints of scientifically rigorous presence in a certain place in the woods and the goal is for them to kill a bigfoot to prove its existence. they believe they are very close to getting a specimen.

documentary is on amazon.

 

[Bacco]

has spent more time hunting and living day and night in the woods than in his home. not hyperbole. he has shared some crazy things he has experienced out in the woods.

do you have some not bigfoot related?
i like hunters stories