Xbox Official Xbox thread

[LuchaBear]

 

[LuchaBear]

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So he made it up?

 

[Kevster]

MS need to include a rechargeable solution with the controller if they want to go this route.

As it is you cannot buy an Xbox for the first time and game for years to come without spending extra on some sort of batteries.

And no everybody doesn’t have several battery packs or loads of rechargeable batteries on stand by.

 

[Mau]

MS need to include a rechargeable solution with the controller if they want to go this route.

As it is you cannot buy an Xbox for the first time and game for years to come without spending extra on some sort of batteries.

And no everybody doesn’t have several battery packs or loads of rechargeable batteries on stand by.

The only people that complain about Xbox having batteries are the ones that already have no intention of buying it in the first place. Always the usual suspects here.

 

[Deadwing88]

You buy a pack of rechargeable batteries, it will literally last you 6-7 years.

 

[Clifford_Harris]

MS need to include a rechargeable solution with the controller if they want to go this route.

As it is you cannot buy an Xbox for the first time and game for years to come without spending extra on some sort of batteries.

And no everybody doesn’t have several battery packs or loads of rechargeable batteries on stand by.

Are you really complaining about having to buy batteries? Energizer 4 pack of rechargeable batteries with a charger is like 10$ at the local walmart.


You sound like @Revolver needs to send you a message.

 

[Madmick]

MS need to include a rechargeable solution with the controller if they want to go this route.

As it is you cannot buy an Xbox for the first time and game for years to come without spending extra on some sort of batteries.

And no everybody doesn’t have several battery packs or loads of rechargeable batteries on stand by.

How is it cheaper to be forced to buy a brand new $60 controller every few years because the lithium battery inside the controller runs out of juice after 2 hours from degradation through hundreds of charge cycles? It's like being forced to throw away your car away every time the motor won't start.

Also, Xbox One owners already have AA batteries figured out. Hell, they don't even have to buy new controllers. Maybe you missed that tidbit. Yeah, Xbox One controllers are compatible with the Xbox Series X/S, and Xbox Series X/S Controllers are compatible with the Xbox One.

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[Kevster]

How is it cheaper to be forced to buy a brand new $60 controller every few years because the lithium battery inside the controller runs out of juice after 2 hours from degradation through hundreds of charge cycles? It's like being forced to throw away your car away every time the motor won't start.

Also, Xbox One owners already have AA batteries figured out. Hell, they don't even have to buy new controllers. Maybe you missed that tidbit. Yeah, Xbox One controllers are compatible with the Xbox Series X/S, and Xbox Series X/S Controllers are compatible with the Xbox One.

Well the first bit is hyperbolic nonsense at it’s best, never had a controller from anywhere ever that goes down to 2 hours after a few years, plenty of people get by comfortably on the same controller. not everyone sits there for hours on end, a gaming session on a charge is achievable for most.

And as for your “also” bit, I clearly said those that buy an Xbox for the first time, so actually no I didn’t miss anything

You certainly did though.

 

[Kevster]

The only people that complain about Xbox having batteries are the ones that already have no intention of buying it in the first place. Always the usual suspects here.

https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/xbox-series-x-2831406

No mention of needing rechargeable batteries, you honestly think absolutely nobody will complain about finding that out after they get it delivered.

Is it an enormous flaw, no not really but if it’s such a cheap non issue then why not just give everybody rechargeable batteries then.

Don’t need a Series X yet, the 1070 in my PC should last until they leave last gen behind, I’ll get one then, can’t be bothered with the overall hassle of PC gaming and starting to favour the looks of it over the PS5.

 

[Mau]

https://www.game.co.uk/en/m/xbox-series-x-2831406

No mention of needing rechargeable batteries, you honestly think absolutely nobody will complain about finding that out after they get it delivered.

Is it an enormous flaw, no not really but if it’s such a cheap non issue then why not just give everybody rechargeable batteries then.

Don’t need a Series X yet, the 1070 in my PC should last until they leave last gen behind, I’ll get one then, can’t be bothered with the overall hassle of PC gaming and starting to favour the looks of it over the PS5.

An enormous flaw would be corrected already, since that's almost 20 years they operate this way and the only complaints are from the PS warriors that doesn't have a Xbox.

You people love to use hyperbole don't you? It's laughable.

 

[Madmick]

Well the first bit is hyperbolic nonsense at it’s best, never had a controller from anywhere ever that goes down to 2 hours after a few years, plenty of people get by comfortably on the same controller. not everyone sits there for hours on end, a gaming session on a charge is achievable for most.

And as for your “also” bit, I clearly said those that buy an Xbox for the first time, so actually no I didn’t miss anything

You certainly did though.

The average battery life of a PS4 controller brand new is 4-5 hours. I'm sure you're keen to tell me barely degrades after two years, and yet over the years I ran the smartphone thread, there was dozens upon dozens of Sherdoggers who complained that their phones which lasted a full day when they bought them struggled to to reach the end of the workday after a mere few years. Certainly app buildup plays a role in that, but so does reality, and anecdote often conveys a reality that often defies simple lab charts.

You want to present charted data on this, I'm receptive. Otherwise, the objective fact here is that battery lives degrade over charge cycles (every partial cycle counts). The below maps this without consideration of additional degradation through aging or temperature storage; even under ideal conditions you're going to lose at least an additional 10% over the first few years.

The PS5's controller charging design is inferior. They can't play and charge wirelessly, simultaneously. The charging portion of the controller should be separate from the controller itself. These aren't phones, after all. Nobody cares if the controllers have IP68 ingress protection. That's the excuse phone manufacturers give for why their phone batteries aren't replaceable these days (but really it's because they want to force consumers to buy a new phone as soon as the battery life degrades beyond what a customer can tolerate).

Sony doesn't even have that excuse.

 

[Kevster]

An enormous flaw would be corrected already, since that's almost 20 years they operate this way and the only complaints are from the PS warriors that doesn't have a Xbox.

You people love to use hyperbole don't you? It's laughable.

I said it wasn’t an enormous flaw.

Don’t even own PS anymore.

Me on the Xbox console app


Me on Nvidia control panel.


Hmmmm PS warrior, or did I simply say something an Xbox guy didn’t like, it’s you lot acting like touchy fanboys, not me.

 

[Kevster]

The average battery life of a PS4 controller brand new is 4-5 hours. I'm sure you're keen to tell me barely degrades after two years, and yet over the years I ran the smartphone thread, there was dozens upon dozens of Sherdoggers who complained that their phones which lasted a full day when they bought them struggled to to reach the end of the workday after a mere few years. Certainly app buildup plays a role in that, but so does reality, and anecdote often conveys a reality that often defies simple lab charts.

You want to present charted data on this, I'm receptive. Otherwise, the objective fact here is that battery lives degrade over charge cycles (every partial cycle counts). The below maps this without consideration of additional degradation through aging or temperature storage; even under ideal conditions you're going to lose at least an additional 10% over the first few years.

The PS5's controller charging design is inferior. They can't play and charge wirelessly, simultaneously. The charging portion of the controller should be separate from the controller itself. These aren't phones, after all. Nobody cares if the controllers have IP68 ingress protection. That's the excuse phone manufacturers give for why their phone batteries aren't replaceable these days (but really it's because they want to force consumers to buy a new phone as soon as the battery life degrades beyond what a customer can tolerate).

Sony doesn't even have that excuse.

4-5 hours is more than one session to many, like I said not everyone sits there for hours on end.

 

[Madmick]

4-5 hours is more than one session to many, like I said not everyone sits there for hours on end.

But some do. You're so determined to dislike the superior, more versatile engineering design that you're projecting your own subjective habits onto the assessment.

You're also ignoring what I've pointed out about the degradation of the battery life over time. This is why many opt to buy new controllers after only a few years.

Not only is degradation unavoidable, but any failure at multiple points in the system requires a new $60 controller. Sometimes batteries fail, sometimes ports fail. None of the value is carried over, either. Sometimes a joystick gets stuck. So you buy a new controller. With the Xbox design, all of your battery doors and charging stands interface with the new controller. You may also find used controllers on the cheap because they come without any battery door, but otherwise work perfectly fine.

The assembly line model rose to dominance because it is superior.

 

[4daLuLZ]

swap batteries...?! how quaint...

how is that better than plugging in the controller to a wire that's already attached to the PS4 and then hit the power button on the 2nd controller and continue on? It takes no time to do that too... all i do is hot swap my controllers. it's effortless.

swapping batteries??? i do that for my tv/cable remotes that's annoying enough once every year or so... :/

This.
I’ve been reading this thread wondering what the fk they’re all talking about ?!!
My launch PS3 controllers are still working like new and my PS4, which sees HEAVY daily use, charges those controllers in what seems like minutes.

Fk batteries and fiddling around with that shit.

But I guess when you’re running last place............

 

[LuchaBear]

 

[4daLuLZ]

Again, the XSX controller can do both. The "Play and Charge kit" lets you recharge while connected via a cord, just like the PS4, but it also lets you charge the battery pack separate from the controller. This way you can swap battery packs.

You can also just shove in traditional jnon-rechargeable AA batteries, or use traditional recharging stations that don't require a USB cord to recharge AA batteries that you can swap in.

This is an objectively superior design. It is more capable, and offers more choice. Furthermore, the controller's charge-life doesn't decline with age and use because the part of the controller that powers it is separable from the controller itself.

Sounds fussy and more work to me.

 

[Madmick]

This.
I’ve been reading this thread wondering what the fk they’re all talking about ?!!
My launch PS3 controllers are still working like new and my PS4, which sees HEAVY daily use, charges those controllers in what seems like minutes.

Fk batteries and fiddling around with that shit.

But I guess when you’re running last place............

The charge time for the PS4 controller battery from depleted to full is 2 hours.

Sounds fussy and more work to me.

I'll dumb it down for you:

It works exactly the same as the PS5 if you want it to.

 

[Deadwing88]