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Obama blames Founding Fathers

ncordless said:
Not really. The Senate was set up to be even less democratic than it is today. Under the Founders' design, Senators were not directly elected by the people of the state, but rather by the state legislatures.

Thankfully, this was changed by constitutional amendment.
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What were the pros and cons of making that change?

ultramanhyata said:
By "tyranny of the majority" you really mean true democracy. Because it certainly does limit that.
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Limiting tyranny sounds good to me. Unless it's my own. :icon_evil
 
OldGoat said:
And that sounds like a terrible view of government. Obama would be a socialist tyrant if he could.
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Well the right seems to preach all gov't is bad. Which do you want? Wave the flag while throwing rocks at the very thing it is celebrating. You can't make something that ironic up. How dare you try.
 
InternetHero said:
Nailed it.



Your greatest foe is bitter irony Jack V. Savage.

"Victory comes late,
And is held low to freezing lips
Too rapt with frost,
To take it..." - Emily Dickinson
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Why won't you just answer his question?
 
ChainFlow said:
Why won't you just answer his question?
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Because this is his question ad nauseam: Have you stopped beating your wife yet you racist, hateful, and clearly anti-science imbecile? I don't think you have... wife beater.

Sorry, I've toyed with enough of Jack's loaded questions until he grows up or more likely amuses me in another thread.
 
The Creeses said:
Well the right seems to preach all gov't is bad. Which do you want? Wave the flag while throwing rocks at the very thing it is celebrating. You can't make something that ironic up. How dare you try.
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Lol, so the flag only represents the federal government now?
 
InternetHero said:
Because this is his question ad nauseam: Have you stopped beating your wife yet you racist, hateful, and clearly anti-science imbecile? I don't think you have... wife beater.

Sorry, I've toyed with enough of Jack's loaded questions until he grows up or more likely amuses me in another thread.
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Um, the question was about which of my positions isn't moderate. WTF?
 
The Creeses said:
Well the right seems to preach all gov't is bad. Which do you want? Wave the flag while throwing rocks at the very thing it is celebrating. You can't make something that ironic up. How dare you try.
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Only if you think the government is what makes America great. What made America great was the freedom from government. Too bad those days are over.
 
InternetHero said:
A gimmick got you with that one a few posts ago... as I pointed out: http://forums.sherdog.com/forums/95441027-post196.html

"Nailed it" was my post, that went along perfectly with your "frothing at the mouth" personal attacks every other post have 75% of the posters here seeing you as an absolute hack for team Obama.
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So still no answer. Of course. Why can't you just say you disagree with something without having to try to portray anyone who dares to disagree with you as some kind of leftist extremist? Why is it so hard to just be honest and normal?
 
Hawkman3111 said:
Only if you think the government is what makes America great. What made America great was the freedom from government. Too bad those days are over.
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The left cannot distinguish between the political class that make up the government and the nation. It's very telling.
 
Jack V Savage said:
So still no answer. Of course. Why can't you just say you disagree with something without having to try to portray anyone who dares to disagree with you as some kind of leftist extremist? Why is it so hard to just be honest and normal?
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Since you're not getting it, I will repost it for you again: " I'm not going to say you never disagree with him but it's safe to say always defend him"

Nailed it and everything you are about your gimmick right there.
 
InternetHero said:
Since you're not getting it, I will repost it for you again: " I'm not going to say you never disagree with him but it's safe to say always defend him"

Nailed it and everything you are about your gimmick right there.
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I don't care about what some other multiple-banned white belt says. I'm asking you to defend what you said. Why are you refusing to do it? Is it because you were lying?
 
Jack V Savage said:
Just because I'm making you cry doesn't mean I'm melting down. Is this a hormonal thing for you? Related to your sex change?
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That sort of misogyny and hate speech would have you howling "racist" if it were directed towards another type of minority. Why do you perpetuate hateful stereotypes about women? Is it because you can bully them in real life?
 
OldGoat said:
That sort of misogyny and hate speech would have you howling "racist" if it were directed towards another type of minority. Why do you perpetuate hateful stereotypes about women? Is it because you can bully them in real life?
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Yeah, I was going to say, so much for elevated debate.
 
OldGoat said:
That sort of misogyny and hate speech would have you howling "racist" if it were directed towards another type of minority. Why do you perpetuate hateful stereotypes about women? Is it because you can bully them in real life?
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Huh? IH has said that he's a transsexual, and hormone therapy from that does have those kinds of effects. I guess you think I'm just saying that, but he's been open about it.
 
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