Economy Now Trump is putting tariffs on Brazil because they were mean to Bolsonaro

Nope. Dude tried to sabotage the elections, then to stage a coup and now he's paying the price. It's all public and well documented.
I wouldn’t say against Bolsonaro itself but the entire anti-big tech platform is lawfare IMO. Dude literally banned twitter in Brazil because they had politically incorrect posts against electronic voting machines or some dude with 10 followers praised nazism.

I’m all for arresting Bolsonaro for trying to stage the invasion of congress but stop the censorship and that shit will backfire. Most “fake news” praising Bolsonaro and claiming the Supreme Court is a dictatorship is shared by WhatsApp or Telegram, P2P platforms. Trying to control social media is useless and feeds into the narrative.
 
So Trump put the tarrifs but with exceptions to almost 700 itens. The feeling here is that he kind of TACOed and claimed a win.
The major impact will be on coffee and beef (for industrialized burgers production).

The thing is, he put Magnitsky on the Supreme Court judge responsible for Bolsonaro's case. I can see an escalation Brazilian goverment is huge on reciprocity and sovereignty, they may do some retaliatory measures (I'm not sure what, maybe tariffs itens that we almost dont buy) and Trump may feel the need to answer.

Brazil actually sent a huge comitivy of senators and ministers to try to make a deal. Notes from it:

1 - They talked with every level and what they got is "doesnt matter, Trump will do what he does in the end"

2 - They got the feel that Trump wants to do to Lula what he did to Zelensky

3 - They said that there's a possibility of they refusing visa's for the brazilian national soccer team in the world cup next year

4 - They're expecting new sanctions in the future because of the buying Russia oil/gas

5 - China is like "we can help out" (Trump is pushing brazil towards China even though the majority of the popuplation had more of a pro USA view)
 
The thing is, he put Magnitsky on the Supreme Court judge responsible for Bolsonaro's case.

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Bro is like SUCK IT UP HATERS!

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I wouldn’t say against Bolsonaro itself but the entire anti-big tech platform is lawfare IMO. Dude literally banned twitter in Brazil because they had politically incorrect posts against electronic voting machines or some dude with 10 followers praised nazism.

I’m all for arresting Bolsonaro for trying to stage the invasion of congress but stop the censorship and that shit will backfire. Most “fake news” praising Bolsonaro and claiming the Supreme Court is a dictatorship is shared by WhatsApp or Telegram, P2P platforms. Trying to control social media is useless and feeds into the narrative.
- Moraes tried to censor facebook years ago, because he was stoped at a aiport and throwed a tamtrum whem PF wanted him to open his luggage. Brazilians were saying he had dildos inside.
 
- Moraes tried to censor facebook years ago, because he was stoped at a aiport and throwed a tamtrum whem PF wanted him to open his luggage. Brazilians were saying he had dildos inside.
From what i read, in this case it seems to be two things can be true at the same time. Bolsonaro did enough to be prosecuted, but Moraes is a guy that feels and acts like an Emperor. If im not mistaken he brought down (or at least threatened? Idk, going by what friends there say) even fucking Whatsapp there for a little while.
 
From what i read, in this case it seems to be two things can be true at the same time. Bolsonaro did enough to be prosecuted, but Moraes is a guy that feels and acts like an Emperor. If im not mistaken he brought down (or at least threatened? Idk, going by what friends there say) even fucking Whatsapp there for a little while.
It was more like these big tech media companies force his hand. Brazil has a legal framework for internet (Marco Civil da Internet and Lei Geral de Proteção de Dados) that is very rigid and regulatory. Those companies are always testing its limits and the Supreme Court Justices usually don't fold to them.

Moraes is a guy who seems to revel in confrontation, had quite a few instances of excess and overreach in his methods but way more often than not he acts to the letter of law.
 
From what i read, in this case it seems to be two things can be true at the same time. Bolsonaro did enough to be prosecuted, but Moraes is a guy that feels and acts like an Emperor. If im not mistaken he brought down (or at least threatened? Idk, going by what friends there say) even fucking Whatsapp there for a little while.
-- I think Bolsonaro knew that Moraes was power tirsty, and his suporters would love to have someone going after that. Cirgo Gonmes also caled Moraes, but Moraes didnt do nothing. I think Ciro qwould be a better president than Lula and Blowie. Athleast Ciro isnt a total moron.
 
-- I think Bolsonaro knew that Moraes was power tirsty, and his suporters would love to have someone going after that. Cirgo Gonmes also caled Moraes, but Moraes didnt do nothing. I think Ciro qwould be a better president than Lula and Blowie. Athleast Ciro isnt a total moron.
Ciro was my first last and only vote when i lived there as a young man lol
 
I'd rather have Ciro too (or any "desenvolvimentista"), PT double crossed him back in 2018. Problem with him is that he stays away the whole election cicle and dont build any base. It's hard to break trough as a viable candidate without a base.
 
I'd rather have Ciro too (or any "desenvolvimentista"), PT double crossed him back in 2018. Problem with him is that he stays away the whole election cicle and dont build any base. It's hard to break trough as a viable candidate without a base.
- Me too. The lkast and only president with a brain was the Mestre Temer.
 
The most maligned figure in our recent history ended up being the best president since FHC.
- Temer is inteligent. A very smart man. No surprise that our artists didnt suport him. They're barely sentient beings after all.
 

US condemns Brazil supreme court judge for ordering house arrest of ex-president Jair Bolsonaro​

US claims judge attempting ‘to silence opposition’ as Bolsonaro accused of breaching ban imposed amid fears he may abscond ahead of trial

Tiago Rogero in Rio de Janeiro and Tom Phillips in Brasília

In a move immediately condemned by the US, a Brazilian supreme court judge has ordered the house arrest of former president Jair Bolsonaro for breaching “preventative measures” that were imposed ahead of his trial for an alleged coup attempt.

According to the ruling on Monday by Justice Alexandre de Moraes, the far-right leader breached a ban on using social media which was imposed last month, when he was also ordered to wear an electronic ankle tag.


Moraes wrote that as demonstrators took to the streets in several cities across the country on Sunday in support of the former president, Bolsonaro used the social media accounts of allies to share messages containing “clear encouragement and incitement to attack the Supreme Federal Court, and overt support for foreign intervention in Brazil’s judiciary”.

“There is no doubt the precautionary measure was breached,” Moraes wrote.

The justice, who was sanctioned by the US last week over his role in the Bolsonaro case, ordered that Bolsonaro be placed under house arrest in the palm-lined compound where Bolsonaro rents a mansion in the south of the capital, Brasília, with visits restricted to close family members and lawyers.

Federal police were instructed to collect all mobile phones available at the property.

Visitors authorised to see the former president will not be allowed to use mobile phones, take photos or record videos.

A press representative for Bolsonaro confirmed he was placed under house arrest on Monday evening at his Brasilia residence by police who seized his mobile phone.

Bolsonaro’s lawyers said in a statement they would appeal against the decision, arguing the former president had not violated any court order.

The US state department, in a statement issued by its bureau of western hemisphere affairs on X, condemned the judge’s ruling and said it would “hold accountable all those aiding and abetting sanctioned conduct”.

“Justice Moraes, now a US-sanctioned human rights abuser, continues to use Brazil’s institutions to silence opposition and threaten democracy,” the bureau said.

“Putting even more restrictions on Jair Bolsonaro’s ability to defend himself in public is not a public service. Let Bolsonaro speak!”

Moraes has said Trump’s tariffs on Brazil and the “spurious” sanctions targeting him and other supreme court justices were part of an “illegal and immoral” ruse to obstruct justice that was being engineered by a group of Brazilian “traitors” who had lobbied foreign authorities to carry out “hostile acts” against the country’s economy.


In his ruling on Monday, Moraes noted that despite being banned from using social media, the far-right leader took part by phone in a pro-Bolsonaro demonstration on Copacabana beach in Rio de Janeiro on Sunday. During the rally, one of his politician sons, senator Flávio Bolsonaro, held a phone to the microphone so the crowd could hear the former president speak.

The senator himself had posted a video on social media showing Bolsonaro addressing supporters by phone – but later deleted the footage. Moraes argued that the deletion was a “blatant” attempt to conceal the breach of court-ordered restrictions.

“The flagrant disregard for the preventative measures was so obvious that – it bears repeating – the defendant’s own son, senator Flávio Nantes Bolsonaro, decided to delete the post from his Instagram account in order to conceal the legal transgression,” Moraes wrote.

The arrest order is part of an ongoing supreme court case in which Bolsonaro is accused of leading a plot to overturn the results of the last election, in which current president Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva defeated the former army captain.

The trial is expected to conclude later this year, with Bolsonaro facing a potential sentence of more than 40 years in prison.

“Bolsonaro is being arrested gradually,” said political commentator Fernando Gabeira on GloboNews. “The supreme court, consciously or not, is leading him to prison in stages – to avoid a major shock.”

In Brasilía, the political temperature has been rising in recent days, with thousands of Bolsonaro supporters on Sunday rallying outside the central bank to offer their support.

Many of those protesters urged the US president Donald Trump – who recently hit Brazil with 50% tariffs in retribution for the alleged “witch hunt” against Bolsonaro – to take further action to help save their embattled leader.

“I’d like to give Trump a hug and tell him: thank you for worrying about us,” said Álvaro Junior, 64, one Bolsonaro supporter who was carrying a sign that read: “Thank you, Trump”.

Metal barricades have been erected around the supreme court, foreign ministry and congress in anticipation of possible rightwing protests or violence.

Trump further stoked the political flames last week by slapping sanctions on Moraes, who the US secretary of the treasury, Scott Bessent, accused of being “responsible for an oppressive campaign of censorship, arbitrary detentions that violate human rights and politicized prosecutions – including against former president Jair Bolsonaro”.

Lindovaldo Ribeiro Paulo, a 43-year-old in a red Maga cap, hailed the sanctions on Moraes, saying: “We feel even more admiration and even love for the American people now.”

In Monday’s ruling, Moraes said Bolsonaro had “repeated his unlawful conduct in an even more severe and defiant manner”, continuing to “urge and incite a foreign head of state to take measures aimed at unlawfully interfering with the normal course of judicial proceedings – in an attempt to generate social pressure on Brazilian authorities, in flagrant violation of national sovereignty”.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/aug/04/brazil-jair-bolsonaro-house-arrest-supreme-court
 
Yes, he also said he doesnt care if it's scorched earth on Brazil because he at least he gets his vengeance lol.
and the dude is a paid congressman. In this cases I'm in favor of the death penalty lol
- I love the army fantasy from a guy that never served and whose dad was kicked out by deshonor.
 
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