Economy Now Trump is putting tariffs on Brazil because they were mean to Bolsonaro

Brazilian Butt Lifts and Brazilian Waxes gonna break the bank now :eek:
 
Beechwood said:
Another reason Trump doesn't like Brazil is that Brazil is trying to cause higher inflation in America. Some on that ~

The Big Banks Really Don’t Want BRICS-Plus to Stop Using the US Dollar​


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Brazil isn't trying to cause inflation in USA, Brazil is trying to not be a hostage of USA's monetary policies.
If we deal with.. let's say Argentina. Why do we have to buy and sell in dollars when we can make an agreement to trade reais for pesos?

IF the whole world starts to do that it means inflation for you guys, but that isnt fault of the rest of the world... it's your limitless spending and money printing fault. When everyone deals in dollar it's real easy to print more dollars and export inflation to the rest of the world.
There are no shady motives here, it's sign of a multipolar world where countries will look for their self interest and deal in a fair way with multiple partners instead of just laying down and doing whatever who is in the White house pushes forward. Sometimes your president is a resonable guy, sometimes it's a lier who reneges on his deals and try to extort you like a Mafia boss. You guys may be ok with a president who only have yes man around him but any nation who isnt a banana republic has to draw a line.

Anyway, BRICS arent the only reason. Your big techs lobbie are probably the biggest of the reasons of this tariff shit. But in that sense we actually have separation between the 3 powers here and the president can't do a thing about what our supreme court does (not that he would try anyways).


BTW I'm actually grateful to Dear leader Trump, the tariffs will probably curb around 0.5% of this year GDP growth and that's bad. But he talking about Bolsonaro actually opened the eyes of a great deal of centrists here and they wont be selling their soul to his family again.. it's also far enough from next year election that I think Lula's popularity rebound probably wont stick, meaning some new government to emerge.
 
BlankaPresident said:
Trump's support and attempts at extortion just earned Bolsonaro an ankle monitor loooooool

Another W for TACO boy.
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- Come to post this. Lula used to play football, the real one, not the rugby for obese people, with the galera, janitors, gardners, security guards at granja. Trump is a pampered fatso, Lula would kick his as in a fight.
 

Bolsonaro ordered to wear ankle tag over fears he may abscond as coup trial nears end​

Guilty verdict widely expected for Brazil’s ex-president accused of plot to seize power after losing 2022 election

Tom Phillips in Rio de Janeiro

Federal police have raided Jair Bolsonaro’s Brasília mansion, banned him from communicating with foreign diplomats and ordered him to wear an electronic ankle tag amid fears Brazil’s ex-president may abscond to avoid punishment over an alleged coup attempt.

A supreme court trial examining claims that Bolsonaro masterminded a murderous plot to seize power after losing the 2022 election is expected to reach its conclusion in the coming weeks.


A guilty verdict is widely seen as a foregone conclusion and political opponents have voiced concern that the far-right politician could try to dodge a sentence of up to 43 years by seeking refuge in a foreign embassy or even trying to leave the country. In February last year, Bolsonaro spent two nights inside the Hungarian embassy in the capital, Brasília, after federal police seized his passport.

Fears that Bolsonaro may flee abroad have intensified in recent days after Donald Trump announced he would impose 50% tariffs on Brazil as a result of what he called the “witch-hunt” against his rightwing ally. On Thursday, the US president published a letter to Bolsonaro on social media in which he denounced the “terrible treatment” he claimed his ally was receiving from the Brazilian government.

Hours after the White House’s two-paragraph note of support, heavily armed federal police agents arrived outside Bolsonaro’s home in a palm-lined upmarket corner of the capital called Botanical Garden.

Police confirmed the operation in a brief statement that said two search warrants had been executed and “preventative measures” imposed.

The statement made no mention of what those restrictions were, but local media reports said they included obliging Bolsonaro to wear a monitoring tag on his ankle, ordering him to remain at home between 7pm and 7am and on weekends, and forbidding him from speaking to foreign ambassadors or diplomats or visiting diplomatic compounds.

Bolsonaro was also banned from using social media, where he has millions of followers.

The television network TV Globo claimed police had found $14,000 (£10,400) in cash during their search of Bolsonaro’s two-storey villa. A USB flash drive that had allegedly been “hidden in the bathroom” was also reportedly seized.

Federal police are investigating what role, if any, Bolsonaro had in convincing Trump to hit Brazil with 50% tariffs in an apparent attempt to pressure Brazilian authorities into dropping the charges against Bolsonaro or pardoning him. His congressman son, Eduardo Bolsonaro, travelled to the US in February and has reportedly spent recent weeks lobbying Trump administration officials to impose sanctions on Alexandre de Moraes, the high-profile supreme court judge presiding over the investigation into his father. Eduardo Bolsonaro celebrated Trump’s tariffs last week, tweeting: “THANK YOU PRESIDENT TRUMP – MAKE BRAZIL FREE AGAIN.”

But if Trump’s politically motivated trade war was designed to help the Bolsonaros, it appears to have backfired.

Brazil’s president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva – whom Bolsonaro allegedly conspired against to stop him taking office – has enjoyed a bounce in the polls, which analysts have attributed to his handling of the crisis. On Thursday night, Lula gave a televised address to the nation in which he attacked Trump’s “unacceptable blackmail” and painted the politicians who supported it as “traitors to the nation”. “Trying to meddle in the Brazilian judicial system represents a serious attack on national sovereignty,” Lula said.

Speaking to reporters after the raid on his home, Bolsonaro denied leading a conspiracy to prevent Lula taking power by staging a military coup. The ex-president also denied he was considering fleeing abroad. “I have never thought about leaving Brazil. I have never thought about going into a [foreign] embassy,” Bolsonaro said, although he admitted he had been planning to lunch with a group of ambassadors next week. “I won’t go any more,” he said, describing the police operation as “supreme humiliation”.

In a statement, Bolsonaro’s lawyer, Celso Vilardi, voiced “surprise and anger” over the “severe” restrictions imposed upon his client.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...le-tag-fears-may-abscond-coup-trial-nears-end
 
Brazilian congressman allied to Bolsonaro. They got elected on a "Patriot" platform.
I feel like some of you did watching the Ted Cruz interview. lol

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Brazil court freezes Bolsonaro son’s assets as Trump’s tariffs appear to backfire​

Eduardo Bolsonaro is suspected of using money to lobby US president on behalf of his father, Jair, who faces arrest for apparent flouting of social media ban

Tom Phillips in Rio de Janeiro

A Brazilian supreme court judge has ordered that the bank accounts and assets of Jair Bolsonaro’s congressman son be frozen, as a political crisis – pitting Brazil’s far-right former president and Donald Trump against the current administration – intensified.

Justice Alexandre de Moraes – who has spearheaded a series of supreme court investigations into Bolsonaro – targeted the finances of Eduardo Bolsonaro, the ex-president’s third son, as a result of police suspicions that money being sent to him by his father was bankrolling his efforts to lobby the Trump administration to help Bolsonaro avoid punishment for an alleged coup attempt after the 2022 election.

Eduardo Bolsonaro, a 41-year-old politician with ties to Steve Bannon and Trump’s Maga movement, has lived in the US since February after going into self-imposed exile. He has spent recent weeks boasting on social media about his apparent success in convincing the White House to pile pressure on Brazil’s supreme court and leftwing president, Luiz Inácio Lula da Silva, over his father’s plight.

Trump’s most significant move came on 9 July, when the US president announced plans to slap 50% tariffs on Brazilian imports because of the supposed “witch hunt” against Bolsonaro, who faces decades in jail for allegedly trying to seize power after being defeated by Lula in 2022.

Lula hit back, calling Trump’s move “unacceptable blackmail” and criticising the Brazilian “traitors” for undermining their country’s interests by supporting the tariffs. “They don’t care about our country’s economy or the harm this will do to our people,” Lula said, in an unmistakable reference to the Bolsonaros.

On Friday, the secretary of state, Marco Rubio, stripped eight of Brazil’s 11 supreme court judges of their US visas in the latest phase of Trump’s attempt to force the supreme court to drop the coup case against Bolsonaro. Rubio’s move came hours after federal police raided Bolsonaro’s mansion in the capital, Brasília, fitted him with an electronic ankle tag to stop him absconding, and banned him from using social media or communicating with scores of people, including his son, Eduardo, and foreign diplomats.

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Jair Bolsonaro shows an electronic ankle monitor, which the supreme court ordered him to wear, at congress in Brasília on Monday. Photograph: Minervino Junior/AP

On Monday, Eduardo Bolsonaro condemned Moraes’s “arbitrary” decision to freeze his accounts. “If he thinks this will make me stop, let me be clear: I will not be intimidated and I will not be silenced. I’ve prepared myself for this moment,” he tweeted.

The drama looks set to escalate further in the coming days and weeks as the supreme court prepares to announce its verdict in the trial investigating whether Bolsonaro masterminded a plot to seize power through a military coup. Bolsonaro – who, at 70, faces spending the rest of his life behind bars – has repeatedly denied the charges.

Bolsonaro supporters have announced street protests for 3 August in an attempt to re-energise their faltering movement, and claim the Trump administration is preparing to announce further sanctions targeting Brazilian authorities. “From here in the US, I’m not speaking in anyone’s name but I can guarantee you this – there will be no retreat,” Eduardo Bolsonaro told CNN Brasil on Friday.

On Monday night, Moraes warned that Jair Bolsonaro could face arrest if his lawyers failed to explain why – in apparent violation of his social media ban – Bolsonaro had made a high-profile public appearance earlier that day at congress, which was widely broadcast on social media.

During that appearance the ex-president showed reporters the monitoring tag on his left ankle and called his treatment “cowardice”. “I didn’t kill anyone!” Bolsonaro shouted, adding: “God’s law is what matters to me.”

If Trump’s interventions were intended to benefit Bolsonaro, so far they appear to have backfired. Lula has enjoyed a bounce in the polls, with many Brazilians outraged at Trump’s politically motivated attack on their economy. Those likely to be worst affected by the tariffs – set to come into force on 1 August – include agribusiness companies that have long been loyal to Bolsonaro.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-threatened-with-arrest-over-social-media-use

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...il-tariffs-ultimatum-backfires-bolsonaro-lula
 
They weren't mean to Bolsonaro, they went full lawfare. Trump sees a better relationship with Brazil with Balsonaro and that's the calculus.

It often goes very wrong when a foreign entity tries to inject itself into another nation's elections. This could backfire on Trump.
 
Whippy McGee said:
They weren't mean to Bolsonaro, they went full lawfare. Trump sees a better relationship with Brazil with Balsonaro and that's the calculus.

It often goes very wrong when a foreign entity tries to inject itself into another nation's elections. This could backfire on Trump.
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You have no grasp of the situation here. They didnt "went full lawfare". Bolsonaro judgment is ongoing, after he lost the election he tried a coup here. He organized a plan of assassination of the the president, vice president and supreme court judge. He tried to bring the armed forces to back him up and lock all supreme court judges. The whistleblowers are high ranking officers of the military (one who was also his personal fixer). And the brazilian military doesnt even like the current president, their base actually backed Bolsonaro in his first election (backed in the sense that supported his campaing, not that went rogue).

In no moment Bolsonaro said he would prove his innocence. Ever since the failed coup happened he and his allies are trying to pass an "amnesty law". Where have you ever seem amnesty for somebody that wasnt even judged guilty yet? It's like Biden giving preemptive pardon for his son and other people.

Trump probably doesnt have any grasp of what goes here, his point of information is Bolsonaro's son, who is a congressman here and just fled the country to lobby in Washington undermining the proper government officials. That being said, it's true that Bolsonaro would be a better ally for Trump, since he would give in anything Trump asked.

It wont work though, Goverment have no power over the supreme court. They'll actually double down on Bolsonaro as his actions makes him look even more guylt and undermining the country.. including his base (agro exporters). Politically, whoever Bolsonaro backed would be considered the favorite for next election... but we're seeing the same effect that Trump had in Canada and Australia. It would be way better for Trump's policies to not put Bolsonaro's name in this and let everything play out.

It'll impact our economy a little bit though.
 
Whippy McGee said:
They weren't mean to Bolsonaro, they went full lawfare. Trump sees a better relationship with Brazil with Balsonaro and that's the calculus.

It often goes very wrong when a foreign entity tries to inject itself into another nation's elections. This could backfire on Trump.
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- Bolsonaro is a submisive bitchy. Trump likes nuthugers. Bolsonaro and his son blind suport US owner: Israel. Blowie did trie a coup, similar to the one Trump did. Bolsonaro didnt care about the political turnoil that a coup in the sixt bigest economy would bring. Trump doesnt care about Bolsonaro, it's just that Lul isnt submissive to his desires.

It often goes very wrong when a foreign entity tries to inject itself into another nation's elections. This could backfire on Trump.
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- Trump bad decisions are making the BRICS stronger. BRICS used to bee seen like a sideshow before.
 
BlankaPresident said:
Nope. Dude tried to sabotage the elections, then to stage a coup and now he's paying the price. It's all public and well documented.
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- Dude has a italian suriname, but none of the mafia smartness. Dumbass was saying since his term that he wanted to close the supreme court.(In a raly using a megaphone)
 
Whippy McGee said:
They weren't mean to Bolsonaro, they went full lawfare. Trump sees a better relationship with Brazil with Balsonaro and that's the calculus.

It often goes very wrong when a foreign entity tries to inject itself into another nation's elections. This could backfire on Trump.
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"lawfare"

So, once again, you absolutely have no idea what's happening, but throw out your favorite buzzword based on a 5 second appraisal of the headline. You didn't read the article, or people actually from Brazil who have documented the details ITT - @TheMoa and @LeonardoBjj

In other words, without knowing a single thing about the situation, you defaulted to Trump's position. The same Trump that you insist you "don't like".

Protip: "Lawfare" is something Trump based his entire existence on, so go ahead and keep using that word - you are just too dumb to understand that it belittles your dear leader more than anyone else.

Yourself and a handful of other Trump supporters on here are reduced to contradicting yourselves on a near daily basis now. How pathetic. You think people will actually look back in history and exclaim "wow! whippy, ditzymma79, and the MAGAnadians, were all right and everyone else was wrong! Trump was actually a solid individual!".
 
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