Nog vs Sergei 18 years ago

[kflo]

Big Nog
Fedor
Crocop
Sergei
Alex
Josh
Werdum
Herring
Fujita
Hunto/Schilts or Coleman/Randleman

MMA evolution 18 years later, UFC is the best eva! New Breeds!

Ngannou
Stipe
Gane
DERRICK LEWIS
Blaydes
Volkov
Rozenstruik
Daukaus
Shamill
Tybura

What’s hilarious is that you unironically think Fujita is better…..

 

[pankrat]

A mongoloid ufc fan boy with 10k posts who has never been on the mats calling people sissy. You would get clobbered via back handed left slaps.

Venga, ahora para cama, sissyboy

 

[pankrat]

Imagine I started to bring up Ngannou losing to Zoumana Cisse as a serious arguement? you'd call me out saying it was far too early in in MMA career to judge him yet Mirko against Wand the first time was 9-10 months into a part time MMA career, before fighting Fujita the first time he literally was almost totally green, that fight was sposed to be feeding a kickboxer to a MMA cold as we saw a few other times in that era.

Its not that I'm not giving any credit to any modern fighters, its that I'm questioning your posting which is I think as often excessive dismissing of the talents of older fighters and buying into UFC evolution hype much too strongly.

Again really your talking up the anti grappling of someone like Gane based on IMHO very little actual evidence, it just seems to be "Gane is a highly ranked modern MMA fighter and modern MMA has evolved thus Gane MUST have a strong anti grappling game", which quality grapplers has Gane beaten to show this? when has he shown great anti grappling? the one time his grapplign was seriously tested by Francis honestly I felt it looked pretty lacking.

Really as well I think the example in this thread shows you WHY this is such an issue, watch Nog/Sergei and tell me thats not a very entertaining match with very enjoyable technique? I fucking hate this modern hype that claims that somehow the more the sport "evolves" the worse it looks technically, as if Derrick Lewis would be dancing around Sergei like Ali but its only his modern evolved opponents who make him look like a brawler. Its just dishonest nonsense IMHO that wouldnt be accepted in any other sport and tis quality sport I want not huffing Dana Whites farts.

I give you examples of plenty of separate years in Mirko's carrer where he lost or showed flaws. Most recently, I did to a fight just some months after the Wand rematch you referenced and you dismised it as well.

That sentence you quoted is something I never said. Regarding Gane, what I said is that his standup game (footwork, range control and striking diversity) makes much harder to initiate advantageous grappling exchanges than what is common today or back then, which coupled with his physicality I do think he would be a hard guy to beat in any era.

You have a sick obsession with Derrick Lewis. I'd say the fact the you need to reference him as the best representative of the modern era exposes your bias

Of course you hardly gonna see Lewis or any other 260lbs behemot - aside form Gané, actually - floating around light on their fight, but this take us back to my point that you diddnt addres, which is that physicality makes a big difference mate, and its btw a tendency that we are watching in any other major sport, including combat sports as boxing, not just MMA.

If you want to see more agile and fluid fighters in modern day as you see in Nog and Sergei, try to take a look at the top guys at LHW, who step into the cage about as heavy as Sergei and Nog in their fight. Yet they remain at LHW for a reason.

 

[pankrat]

10k posts dweeb calling someone a sissy. Beta male mongoloid.

Dont get mad, sis.
Toma un caramelo.

 

[Dorkman]

Looking at him today you almost can't believe it's the same guy from the video above.

Yeah Sergei was definitely more slender in his younger years. He got real thick.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Dont get mad, sis.
Toma un caramelo.

Yea I'm so mad that a virgin from Guatemala with 50k posts called me a sissy. You would be used as a punching bag by the two stripe white belts at my BJJ gym. Buenos noches.

 

[ryun253]

Steroids don't replace skill and technique. You could give Lewis and Tuivasa all the steroids in the world and they still wouldn't fight like that.

Hell no those fatties wouldn't, but they would have additional power the equalizer for the heavyweight division. Weight and power just excels so much nowadays over techique & skill of heavyweights, its sad looking back. 205-225 cruiser weight division would be nice in the UFC.

 

[pankrat]

Yea I'm so mad that a virgin from Guatemala with 50k posts called me a sissy. You would be used as a punching bag by the two stripe white belts at my BJJ gym. Buenos noches.

You are actually fuming, balding in anger, I doubt there is any hair left in you bald, fat head at this point.
Getting slapped in your own native language in your thread, while getting mad. What a boss this sis jajaj

 

[BigDanStudd]

Such a deep HW division. Sergei's boxing was fantastic, even by today's standards. I rewatched his mauling of Pedro Rizzo a few months back and his jab was fucking BRUTAL. It's rare enough to see someone utilize an effective jab today, let alone back in 2005.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

If you want to see more agile and fluid fighters in modern day as you see in Nog and Sergei, try to take a look at the top guys at LHW, who step into the cage about as heavy as Sergei and Nog in their fight. Yet they remain at LHW for a reason.

Top guys at LHW? Journey man Jan? 58 year old Glover? and 18 losses Anthony Smtih? Surely Nog and Sergei would have nothing for them.

Your posting level is equal to that of a dish washer at a Guatemalan restaurant. The Mayorga gimmick isn't going to be enough my son.

 

[pankrat]

Top guys at LHW? Journey man Jan? 58 year old Glover and 18 losses Anthony Smtih. Surely Nog and Sergei would have nothing for them.

10k posts of trash lol

The obsessed weirdo can't contain himself. I wasnt talking to you, my sis.

If you had a clue, you would know there is MMA out of UFC, and particularly LHW is the division where UFC let go or just didnt sign the most top talent in recent years.

Yes, Nemkov, for example, could give Sergei/Nog a good fight with high level technique involved.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Yes, Nemkov, for example, could give Sergei/Nog a good fight with high level technique involved.

Lol Nemkov is one of my favorite fighters and would give anyone a tough fight but that's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Nogueiras ability to take down a French kick boxer with 4 years of training. The truth is you're just a dish washer here cleaning off my left overs with your bare hands and taking what you can back home to your family. Anyone with any decent understanding of MMA will read this thread and witness how badly you got mopped in here. Now back to your hole you go amigo.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Cool story my hypocritical brather. This is an MMA forum, sorry if observations/opinions about one era being superior to another era ruffles your feathers.

You're that idisagree guy aren't you?

 

[pankrat]

Lol Nemkov is one of my favorite fighters and would give anyone a tough fight but that's irrelevant and has nothing to do with Nogueiras ability to take down a French kick boxer with 4 years of training. The truth is you're just a dish washer here cleaning off my left overs with your bare hands and taking what you can back home to your family for dinner. Anyone with any decent understanding of MMA will read this thread and witness how badly you got mopped in here. Now back to your hole you go amigo.

Sorry, this post just sounds too much nerdy.
No need to keep editing all your post btw, balding in anger this sis hahah

 

[djacobox372]

The stand up in Gane vs Ngannou was really high level

Naw, I saw one guy with very basic boxing and lots of power, and another guy who was afraid to stand and trade in the pocket.

 

[TR1]

Much better than the pathetic standup and lay and pray of recent title fights.

Though to be fair DC Stipe were more interesting fights as well, despite them being two old dudes eye poking the shit out of each other.

Nboogooo vs that amateur kickboxer just sucked.

 

[Jewish Lightning]

Much better than the pathetic standup and lay and pray of recent title fights.

Though to be fair DC Stipe were more interesting fights as well, despite them being two old dudes eye poking the shit out of each other.

Nboogooo vs that amateur kickboxer just sucked.

DC and Stipe fights were good but not nearly as skilled.

 

[TR1]

I do think that double leg from the 260lber Blaydes seems harder to stop than those we see from 225lbs Nogueira btw, dont you agree?

Dude could barely outgrapple Volkov, a mediocre fighter at best. Balydes is a mediocre JNCO wrestler.

Did Coleman, Waterman, Erickson, Kerr, etc etc lot of other big guys with better wrestling credentials not exist or something before?

 

[Merlotte's]

Great fight thanks for posting. PRIDE was amazing.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Sorry, this post just sounds too much nerdy.
No need to keep editing all your post btw, balding in anger this sis hahah

This dude is a previously banned poster who'll no doubt get himself banned again soon, I wouldn't waste the energy and wear and tear on your keyboard.