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So is Gane, who just starred in a Netflix movie that was in the top 10 streamed for a minute. Why not sell him instead of the other guy that nobody cares about?

Ciryl isn't the champion.

 

[Thy]

I heard of him, he seems aight.

 

[mkess101]

Ciryl isn't the champion.

And? He's a "movie star" now. You think they haven't promoted the challenger side of title fights before?

There's a lot of twisting and spinning going on to avoid saying "Okay yeah Aspinall isn't a huge star yet or anything but the people trying to claim he's a 'nobody' to justify the former champ ducking him are ridiculous".

I have a feeling even that small concession isn't coming though. Pretty sure I know why, too.

 

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There's a lot of twisting and spinning going on to avoid saying "Okay yeah Aspinall isn't a huge star yet or anything but the people trying to claim he's a 'nobody' to justify the former champ ducking him are ridiculous".

I have a feeling even that small concession isn't coming though. Pretty sure I know why, too.

Here's a screenshot of the story you're referencing and the real estate it's taking up halfway down on ESPN.com's home page:


Does this mean that Brendan Allen/MW divisional rankings are twice as important and twice as costly to promote since that story takes up twice the space?

 

[mkess101]

Here's a screenshot of the story you're referencing and the real estate it's taking up halfway down on ESPN.com's home page:
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Does this mean that Brendan Allen/MW divisional rankings are twice as important and twice as costly to promote since that story takes up twice the space?

They swapped it from earlier today. Something of course sites do in order to give visitors a different look and maybe have them click on something they missed earlier. Earlier today the Apinall article was the more prominent one.

You also ignored the question as to why they wouldn't choose to promote the movie star over the "nobody" when they've clearly chosen to promote challengers in the past.

It's all good. Like I said, I am pretty confident I know why you've drawn this silly line in the sand to insist the HW champ is a complete unknown.

 

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You also ignored the question as to why they wouldn't choose to promote the movie star over the "nobody" when they've clearly chosen to promote challengers in the past.

You want me to explain to you why a sports network would promote the UFC HW champion over the challenger who has done some C- and D-level Netflix movies. Are you being serious?

It's all good. Like I said, I am pretty confident I know why you've drawn this silly line in the sand to insist the HW champ is a complete unknown.

I've never said that.

 

[mkess101]

You want me to explain to you why a sports network would promote the UFC HW champion over the challenger who has done some C- and D-level Netflix movies. Are you being serious?



I've never said that.

No, but you've seemed to take issue with me calling out those who have. Or am I wrong about that assessment.

And you can call Gane's movie "C-" but if it's top 10 on Netflix even for a minute that's absolutely NOT nothing. I'm pretty sure you understand how many eyeballs that is.

 

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No, but you've seemed to take issue with me calling out those who have. Or am I wrong about that assessment.

I don't agree with the premise that an article from ESPN (who has a financial stake in UFC events) proves anything other than a business promoting their product(s).

And you can call Gane's movie "C-" but if it's top 10 on Netflix even for a minute that's absolutely NOT nothing. I'm pretty sure you understand how many eyeballs that is.

It's much harder for smaller movies to break into the cultural zeitgeist and get the same hype and following that higher-budget ones can. Not impossible, just harder.

 

[mkess101]

I don't agree with the premise that an article from ESPN (who has a financial stake in UFC events) proves anything other than a business promoting their product(s).



It's much harder for smaller movies to break into the cultural zeitgeist and get the same hype and following that higher-budget ones can. Not impossible, just harder.

First part, you didn't answer the question. At all. The point of the thread was explained. But I'll ask straight out: do you think I'm fine pointing out the silliness of those claiming Aspinall is "a nobody"?

Second part: MMA in broader terms is still a niche sport. Gane's movie wouldn't need to be an indie movie that became "a thing" like The Blair Witch Project in order for Gane to be more marketable than Aspinall if Tom was actually a "nobody" like some here claim.

 

[Doughie99]

alternating caps became internet speech for sarcasm at some point because /sarcasm stopped making sense because standard programming nomenclature became passe for the younger generation. So they switched to Alternate caps

Aha ok.

I wasn't actually beinging serious in my previous post..........

 

[Koro_11]

I think it's the fact the GOAT fighter is fearful of him and left the division to not fight him.

It seems to get more attention with casuals than "he's English", in my experience.

Meh, it's also about timing. Jones is pushing 40 and he's not gonna fight forever, so regardless of who the top guy at HW is at the time Jones decides to retire, people are gonna say "oh he's ducking that guy".

 

[SuperNerd]

Meh, it's also about timing. Jones is pushing 40 and he's not gonna fight forever, so regardless of who the top guy at HW is at the time Jones decides to retire, people are gonna say "oh he's ducking that guy".

I know I would.

 

[mkess101]

Meh, it's also about timing. Jones is pushing 40 and he's not gonna fight forever, so regardless of who the top guy at HW is at the time Jones decides to retire, people are gonna say "oh he's ducking that guy".

Not untrue...but you also haven't had a HW that's not just beating all the top 10 guys but wrecking all of them inside 2 minutes.

In other words, if we were seeing split decisions or Aspinall in wars that he could conceivably lose, the ducking accusations vs Jones would be MUCH quieter.

 

[prime_lobov]

This is an AI-generated hype piece by ESPN. The most dominant heavyweight of all time? Lmao

 

[mkess101]

This is an AI-generated hype piece by ESPN. The most dominant heavyweight of all time? Lmao

It has an author. Who literally makes sure to explain right away he's not saying Aspinall is the greatest or most accomplished. Just the most dominant so far based on HOW he's winning.

 

[prime_lobov]

It has an author. Who literally makes sure to explain right away he's not saying Aspinall is the greatest or most accomplished. Just the most dominant so far based on HOW he's winning.

Yeah, it has an author who opened ChatGPT and told it to write an article to hype Tommy Boy because everybody forgot about him.

 

[Koro_11]

Not untrue...but you also haven't had a HW that's not just beating all the top 10 guys but wrecking all of them inside 2 minutes.

In other words, if we were seeing split decisions or Aspinall in wars that he could conceivably lose, the ducking accusations vs Jones would be MUCH quieter.

Sure I get that, but at the same time it's not like Jones is obligated to fight forever. I mean I can understand most people dislike him and want to see him finally get knocked out, but the guy stepped in there against killers like 25 times, he definitely put in his time.

I was never much of a Jones fan, but now that he's almost 40 it's kinda annoying how everyone wants him to always fight that one more guy who will supposedly knock him out. Maybe Tom would, but at this point it wouldn't mean nearly as much considering the guy is old and basically fighting part time.

If he did take the fight, and Tom did beat him, I would see it pretty much like I see Weidman beating Anderson... someone was gonna do it eventually, and that somebody got a lot of help from father time. With that win Tom wouldn't overtake Jon's legacy or anything, just as no one in their right mind considers Weidman a greater fighter than Anderson Silva.

So yeah I get it, a lot of people hate Jones, but for fuck sakes the guy has a right to retire nearing 40 after what, like 15 championship title wins. Funny how no one is this hard on Khabib who retired at 32, with just 3 title defenses.

 

[Mammothman]

Who?

 

[mkess101]

Yeah, it has an author who opened ChatGPT and told it to write an article to hype Tommy Boy because everybody forgot about him.

Okay. Well, at least the stats on how quickly Aspinall is knocking everyone out are accurate.

 

[ShadowRun]

Has there ever been more hype behind a fighter that has accomplished less ?