News My general AI personal mega thread. Latest musing 16/05/24

AristotleAmadopolis said:
are u sure its being undersold?

sci fi authors have been putting out the warnings and prophecies for almost a hundred years.

and many people you included have been sounding the alarm bells.

no one really knows how ai will truly be or behave

and a lot of it will probably be dependent on how we behave and interact with ai - our child.

have u watched the animatrix?

one of the best stories in it is a two part look into the past before the dawn of the matrix. ive linked part 1 (divided into two ob youtube). if u like it check out part two as well.

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I'm saying that it's not general purpose AI we have to worry about right now, it's the effect the preceding technology is going to have that is imminent.

GPAI might be 50yrs off, it won't be like the arrival of a nuke, it'll be like the tsunami after the earthquake.

I have a friend working for Facebook utilising and developing AI who loses sleep about this shit because it's so crazy.
 
Phlog said:
I'm saying that it's not general purpose AI we have to worry about right now, it's the effect the preceding technology is going to have that is imminent.

GPAI might be 50yrs off, it won't be like the arrival of a nuke, it'll be like the tsunami after the earthquake.

I have a friend working for Facebook utilising and developing AI who loses sleep about this shit because it's so crazy.
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gpai?

its all a mystery. let it come and let it be.
tell ur friend to chill
 
Probably don’t actually understand AI but from I what I think is true….isn’t it not actually creative. Like AI programs just “read the internet” and use the creative products humans have given it access to and the programs pulls bits and pieces and Frankenstein’s something out of it?

I don’t see it doing things like comedy and music well, when those skills rely on relating to human experiences and emotions in intimate ways.
 
Phlog said:
This is my thoughts on it, I've predicted this shit for years but now I believe the time frame is going to be over the next 10 to 15 years rather than over the next 50.

The scrambling by teachers with how to deal with plagiarism as a result of students using AI to write their papers is the Canary in the coal mine.

The previous head of Gmail has said he believes Google's business will be effectively done within two years as as AI chat bots will provide better search results.

I believe that we are in the opening salvo of the biggest disruption to our civilisation ever, the Mongols, the fall of the Roman empire, the industrial Revolution, the invention of printing press or computing all have nothing on this.

Entire sectors of the economy will be wiped out in moments. Any job where someone uses a computer screen will be done better and cheaper by AI.

Medicine, law, banking, musician, comedian, education, film, author, all gone. Want to be entertained by your own sherdog community? Done. Want to watch the rest of any cancelled show? Done. NFL offensive play calling or player acquisition? Done.


It won't be long before a child will get a better education from AI and better socialisation from AI than from going to school. This disruption will effect every single job.

There is no way that our current economic models will survive this. Most people will not have jobs and there will be a huge spectrum across countries in their response. Some will happily let most of the population lose, others will increase welfare a great deal.

This isn't like anything we have faced and it's going to hit us like a ton of bricks, fast. We will be playing catch up and unable to prepare or react reasonably. Just dealing with nefarious use of AI will take everything we have. This could well be the singularity.
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Yeah dude. I made this thread months ago:

https://forums.sherdog.com/threads/does-everyone-realize-how-close-ai-to-being-everywhere.4262645/
 
chardog said:
As for writing articles, the engine has retro data, it can’t write about anything new, in tested a paid version of the AI GPT , and in theory it sounds cool, but to get something meaningful, it was a disaster.

don’t believe me, then try writing a simple article on something like “5 reasons Gane beats Jones”. The engine will get tripped up and sure as hell won’t be able to convey your thoughts.
What it is nice is for rephrasing a few sentences at a time for a better tone and LOL at anyone buying into this hype job. The makers of chat GPT have been around for a long time and pushing a real good marketing campaign right now.
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It's at the level of Pong in video games now. Wait a year or two...
 
Phlog said:
The previous head of Gmail has said he believes Google's business will be effectively done within two years as as AI chat bots will provide better search results.
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That doesn’t make any sense. They’ll continue to make plenty of money via advertising which they apparently have anti-trust lawsuits levied upon.
 
djacobox372 said:
50 years? LOL What don't you understand about exponential growth? We got 20 years tops before humans are redundant. A child born today will never have a "real job," just activities to keep them busy.
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You must be young, things just don't happen so fast, yes it will take 50years maybe even more. I think ai can improve in few years where it will do most jobs better, but there is no infrastructure for it to expand right now, you will need better internet, faster computers, smarter devices, better robotics that will take many years to develop and build and there will be a lot of backlash from the people, new laws will be introduced to slow down AI.
In ideal world with perfect conditions it would be over in 2years, but the world isn't perfect sooo 50years seems reasonable
 
zgames said:
You must be young, things just don't happen so fast, yes it will take 50years maybe even more. I think ai can improve in few years where it will do most jobs better, but there is no infrastructure for it to expand right now, you will need better internet, faster computers, smarter devices, better robotics that will take many years to develop and build and there will be a lot of backlash from the people, new laws will be introduced to slow down AI.
In ideal world with perfect conditions it would be over in 2years, but the world isn't perfect sooo 50years seems reasonable
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No way it's even close to 50 years.
 
While I think shit is getting real with AI I don't know how long this or that will take nor when we'll have "real" AI, if we don't already somewhere in some government or corporate lab. Hell, we don't even understand consciousness in ourselves and opinions are all over the map, even with people in the STEM field.

Certainly an interesting and kinda scary time that's for sure.
 
Well, good. I hope AI replaces ALL of our jobs. Fuck it. The AI will do a far better job than all the dumb apes I see in the office every day...fucking up basic tasks all the time and shit. No more hungover employees. No more lazy employees. No more rude employees. No more incompetent employees.

And this will save us tons of money, too, right? Maybe then we can finally get universal basic income so I don't have to be a wage slave for the next 20+ years of my life. If we don't get universal basic income from all the money saved, the AI can probably figure out how to create a sustainable universal basic income program for us.

Sounds good to me. Looking forward to our AI overlord.
 
Michaelangelo said:
That doesn’t make any sense. They’ll continue to make plenty of money via advertising which they apparently have anti-trust lawsuits levied upon.
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He predicts people won't be using their search function which is where they get their 250 billion ad revenue from. Google itself has internal warnings going about the problem.
 
zgames said:
You must be young, things just don't happen so fast, yes it will take 50years maybe even more. I think ai can improve in few years where it will do most jobs better, but there is no infrastructure for it to expand right now, you will need better internet, faster computers, smarter devices, better robotics that will take many years to develop and build and there will be a lot of backlash from the people, new laws will be introduced to slow down AI.
In ideal world with perfect conditions it would be over in 2years, but the world isn't perfect sooo 50years seems reasonable
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It's already being used in countless applications. My cousin recently created an AI system for an Irish bank which does the job of over a couple of hundred people.

But you're right, the change won't be abrupt, but it will be faster than any previous technological revolution. They've all been faster than before. Exponentially so. I'd say 50 years for everything being radically different.

But we could easily see the end of most law practice within 10-20 years, for example, anything which is large data set driven.
 
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