Most underrated champs in UFC history

[dipstickjimmy]

where in the rules does it say close rounds must be given to the champ? Also there’s no way you can say robbery debunked. Simply google biggest mma robberies and gsp vs Hendricks is universally listed. You can personally disagree, but you’re in the minority, it is what it is. Also, how dare you hate on those WOOOS! They’re catchy. It’s like vocally doing the wave. Crowds don’t need a reason to do them.

The fact you have revealed yourself as a Woooing, Wooooer who Woooos is in direct contradiction to the clear Doctrine of Woooo.

Simply put its impossible to be a "Robbery". It was a 48-47 Split Decision. 4 rounds were clearly scored. There was one round that is in dispute. It was razor close.
Are you arguing that it was an obvious 50-45 for Hendricks? Are you arguing GSP didn't clearly win the 3rd and 5th rounds? It's not a Robbery, not even close.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Bisping.
One Eyed and had one good knee.
Hard to top that. Becoming the champ when he is strictly disabled

I'm 100% for this, So many people use bisping as the prime example of a weak champion. It's bullshit. he won the title LEGIT with a stoppage win over a great fighter. He defended his belt and avenged an early career, he has a win over the goat of the division, most of his losses come from known cheaters and he has the most wins of any MW of all time. his worst loss is probably tim Kennedy and he's a great fighter.

 

[snaportap21]

The fact you have revealed yourself as a Woooing, Wooooer who Woooos is in direct contradiction to the clear Doctrine of Woooo.

Simply put its impossible to be a "Robbery". It was a 48-47 Split Decision. 4 rounds were clearly scored. There was one round that is in dispute. It was razor close.
Are you arguing that it was an obvious 50-45 for Hendricks? Are you arguing GSP didn't clearly win the 3rd and 5th rounds? It's not a Robbery, not even close.

When did I say I was a WOOOer? Also, how can you say it’s not a robbery when it’s universally listed on literally almost every biggest robberies in mma list?

 

[dipstickjimmy]

When did I say I was a WOOOer? Also, how can you say it’s not a robbery when it’s universally listed on literally almost every biggest robberies in mma list?

You said you like the Woooos. That they are like the wave.

Its pretty simple to say it isn't a robbery. What rounds did you score for Johnny? What rounds did you score for GSP? Everyone scored 2 & 4 for Johnny. Everyone scored 3 & 5 for GSP. The first was razor close and could have gone either way. That's the exact definition of "Not a Robbery"

 

[kalabula]

Tito has to be up there. Everyone talks so much shit about him and rarely has a good thing to say. He won the belt and defended it 5 times. Not too shabby for someone who nobody takes seriously.

 

[Fioretti]

Based on the hate he gets here I'd say GSP is the champ who deserves more respect. He always fought the #1 contender. He was in some wars and came out victorious. He was the consummate UFC champ. Never tested positive for 'roids. Held a lot of major records when he retired. Yeah what a loser, huh?

GSP has never been underrated. He didn't always fight the #1 contender, and that's a testament of how underrated he's NOT on this forum, his competition is so overrated around here, it's sickening. ATG for sure - no doubt, no question. He in no way, shape, or form qualifies as an underrated champion. Lol - wtffffffff

 

[Fioretti]

Tito has to be up there. Everyone talks so much shit about him and rarely has a good thing to say. He won the belt and defended it 5 times. Not too shabby for someone who nobody takes seriously.

Actually, that's a very good call. He holds second place (only to Jon fuckin Jones) in almost every championship record for the UFC LHW divisoin:

• UFC Hall of Fame (2012, pioneer wing)
• UFC Light Heavyweight Championship (One time)
  • Five successful title defenses
• Second most championship fights in the Light Heavyweight division (9)
• Second most championship rounds fought on Light Heavyweight division (28)
• Second most successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
• Second most consecutive successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
• Second most wins in Light Heavyweight division championship fights (6)
• Tied second most wins in the Light Heavyweight division (15) with Ryan Bader

 

[Fioretti]

You said you like the Woooos. That they are like the wave.

Its pretty simple to say it isn't a robbery. What rounds did you score for Johnny? What rounds did you score for GSP? Everyone scored 2 & 4 for Johnny. Everyone scored 3 & 5 for GSP. The first was razor close and could have gone either way. That's the exact definition of "Not a Robbery"

Every single MMA media outlet scored it for Johnny. It was a robbery, my dude. The crowd booed like crazy. GSP looked defeated, then surprised when they called him the winner. The first thing GSP said was how bad Johnny hurt him. Nobody truly believes GSP won that fight. Sure, the crazy ass fanatics will say he did, and they're technically right on the official call, but that was a fuckin robbery.

 

[kalabula]

Actually, that's a very good call. He holds second place (only to Jon fuckin Jones) in almost every championship record for the UFC LHW divisoin:

• UFC Hall of Fame (2012, pioneer wing)
• UFC Light Heavyweight Championship (One time)
  • Five successful title defenses
• Second most championship fights in the Light Heavyweight division (9)
• Second most championship rounds fought on Light Heavyweight division (28)
• Second most successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
• Second most consecutive successful Light Heavyweight title defenses in UFC history (5)
• Second most wins in Light Heavyweight division championship fights (6)
• Tied second most wins in the Light Heavyweight division (15) with Ryan Bader

Poor Tito. He’s literally the laughing stock of the MMA community because he’s not good with words. And he’s still fighting!

 

[Fioretti]

Poor Tito. He’s literally the laughing stock of the MMA community because he’s not good with words. And he’s still fighting!

Let me tell you how you feel about this.

 

[JimmyKey v1.6]

Benson Henderson, to me, was under appreciated.

 

[snaportap21]

You said you like the Woooos. That they are like the wave.

Its pretty simple to say it isn't a robbery. What rounds did you score for Johnny? What rounds did you score for GSP? Everyone scored 2 & 4 for Johnny. Everyone scored 3 & 5 for GSP. The first was razor close and could have gone either way. That's the exact definition of "Not a Robbery"

That doesn’t mean I do them. I literally never have. And again, how do you explain it being universally listed when people rank the biggest mma robberies?

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Every single MMA media outlet scored it for Johnny. It was a robbery, my dude. The crowd booed like crazy. GSP looked defeated, then surprised when they called him the winner. The first thing GSP said was how bad Johnny hurt him. Nobody truly believes GSP won that fight. Sure, the crazy ass fanatics will say he did, and they're technically right on the official call, but that was a fuckin robbery.

GSP undeniably won 3 & 5. Hendricks won 2 & 4.
The first was close, razor thin. Could have gone either way. How in the Fnck is that a Robbery???????? As I said take away the Halo Effect giving Johnny "Extra Credit" for not getting dominated and you have a close split decision.

Maybe Johnny should have not coasted in the 5th? That was his excuse but the fact is GSP was gaining steam and Hendricks was tiring out. So how much damage did he really do to GSP? Superficial bruises? GSP shows bruising more than some being a pasty white French Canadian. So many were influenced by Rogan's biased commentary. "Those are really hard elbows Mike" While it didn't cause GSP to stop going for the TD.

Not every single Media outlet scored it for Hendricks and even many of those who did said it was close. Especially the first which was the deciding round.

 

[Fioretti]

GSP undeniably won 3 & 5. Hendricks won 2 & 4.
The first was close, razor thin. Could have gone either way. How in the Fnck is that a Robbery???????? As I said take away the Halo Effect giving Johnny "Extra Credit" for not getting dominated and you have a close split decision.

Maybe Johnny should have not coasted in the 5th? That was his excuse but the fact is GSP was gaining steam and Hendricks was tiring out. So how much damage did he really do to GSP? Superficial bruises? GSP shows bruising more than some being a pasty white French Canadian. So many were influenced by Rogan's biased commentary. "Those are really hard elbows Mike" While it didn't cause GSP to stop going for the TD.

Not every single Media outlet scored it for Hendricks and even many of those who did said it was close. Especially the first which was the deciding round.

Not one major media outlet scored it for GSP. Unanimous for Hendricks. I literally just showed you.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

That doesn’t mean I do them. I literally never have. And again, how do you explain it being universally listed when people rank the biggest mma robberies?

Here is a top 5 list that came up when I googled biggest robberies in MMA
5. Nam Phan vs Leonard Garcia
Striking favoured Pham 174-100
Phan outstruck him in each round
4. Edgar vs Maynard II(I disagree that this was a robbery)
Striking 95-71 for Frankie.
Frankie outstruck him in each round after the first.

2. Lyoto vs Shogun 1
Shogun outstruck him 80-35 in sig strikes, 82-39 total. Shogun outstruck him in every single round.
1. Diego vs Ross Pearson
Pearson outstruck him 51-33 and outlanded him each round.

In each of these the "Robbed" fighter outlanded their opponent in the entirety and in the majority of rounds.

GSP vs Hendricks is listed as #3
GSP out landed Hendricks 101-85 in significant strikes. But Johnny was robbed.
GSP out landed Hendricks 142-125 total strikes. But Johnny was robbed.
GSP out landed Hendricks 31-15 in the 3rd. But Johnny was robbed.
GSP out landed Hendricks 9-4 in the 5th with 2 TDs to none. But Johnny was robbed.

GSP outlanded Hendricks in Sig strikes in the first 19-18.
Hendricks out landed GSP in total strikes 27-26
Both fighters had 1 TD each.
GSP had the only submission attempt.
Literally a razor close round that could have gone either way. But Johnny was robbed.

Note how this "Robbery" is statistically opposite of the other 4 in the top 5? It simply is not a robbery. The night of the fight Johnny got "The Halo Effect" in many fans eyes. This is one case of MMA judges actually being competent and the statistics bear that out.

If you have an argument besides "But its on a list", perhaps with some facts to back it up I am listening. From where I saw it rounds 2 & 4 were Johnny's and 3 & 5 were GSPs. I scored the first for GSP. If you scored the first for Johnny I can see that. If you want to argue how it wasn't remotely close in the first I am all ears. You can think Johnny won but it was not a robbery.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

Not one major media outlet scored it for GSP. Unanimous for Hendricks. I literally just showed you.

see the post below yours and tell me how you scored it.
First round was the deciding factor. Hopefully you can agree that the 2nd & 4th were Johnny and 3 & 5 was GSP's. The first was razor close. Look at the stats. Not a Robbery.

Lots of people thought the world was flat. Doesn't make them right.

 

[dipstickjimmy]

He didn't always fight the #1 contender,

No way is GSP underrated I 100% agree.
But what makes you claim this? Aside from Nick Diaz who lost an Interim fight against Condit and then got a title shot after Condit who are you arguing wasn't #1 contender? What number 1 contender didn't get a shot when GSP was champion?

March 4 2013 Sherdog rankings:
GSP was champion #1. Condit was #2 but just lost to GSP, Hendricks was #3, Nick was #4. Since Nick was originally booked against GSP and fought Condit when GSP was injured that was the fight GSP wanted. He then fought Hendricks.[/QUOTE]

 

[MGS]

Barao, he was truly unstoppable until TJ entered the cage with him, but people forget how dominant he was and how long he went undefeated. He deserves more recognition.

 

[MGS]

The Weidman that destroyed Machida would be a problem to any MW ever, imo that was his prime

The way The Chris dismantled Machida and Vitor, fucking beautiful. His boxing defence was top notch then, he survived a vitor flurry, and kept it standing. That's crazy.

 

[VinceArch]

TS is an idiot.