MMA overtaken Boxing 100%

RNC555 said:
And it happened. MMA is bigger than boxing.

Canelo vs Kovalev had to wait for Nate vs Jorge to be over so they can fight. Lmfao, biggest star in all of boxing is waiting for 2 guys with 10+ losses each to finish so he can start.
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You do realize that the fact that Canelo & Kovalev waited for the Mansvidal-Diaz fight to conclude means nothing other than the head of DAZN & the Canelo-Kovalev promoter wanted as many eyes on their fight as possible. So, a couple of days before the fight they announced that they'd do combat sports fans a favor by allowing viewers to see both by making sure that Canelo-Kovalev didn't make their ring walk until the UFC main event was over. It was a decision that was beneficial to them so they did it. And, as a result, they got a lot of new subscribers in the process. So, it was one of those rare decisions that was good for the promoters & the fans alike.
In other words, no one was "made" to do anything because MMA is more popular than boxing. That's just not true. In every reputable survey of the most popular sports in the USA boxing is more popular than MMA. It's close but boxing is still ahead in the number of viewers. And worldwide it's no contest, boxing is the more popular sport.
Could that change in time? Of course, it could. Anythings possible. But I doubt if it will be any time soon. Boxing is enjoying a resurgence in popularity & it isn't going anywhere.
As I said in my previous post, both sports are great & there's plenty of room for both to exist, grow & thrive.
 
Canelo has to pay cartels off and Wilder
got them child support bills.
Whatchu expect?
 
The problem with boxing is that there are multiple promotions but no clear cut number one. Some say Premier Boxing but they don't have all the top fighters. Every sport has a dominant league except boxing and soccer I guess(FIFA control everything)

If Dana has his way, Zuffa Boxing will be the most dominant boxing promotion in 10 years.
 
All these MMA fighters wouldnt be asking for boxing fights if this was true.
 
robotsonic said:
Joshua is making a guaranteed $80 million for the fight on Saturday. That covers the entire fighter pay for 10 or 11 full UFC events. Until UFC can pay it's fighters like that then no boxing is the more popular sport. Those are the FACTS
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Their pay and popularity are separate issues, if Khabib and Conor were allowed to promote their own fight, they would have made batshit insane amounts of money selling 2.5 million PPVs.
 
RNC555 said:
@EdmundsEmptyBankAccount
MMA is only getting bigger even while its becoming more technical.

Wilder vs Fury 1 300k ppv

Khabib vs Iaquinta 350k ppv

Butb bbbbut Boxing pay though!
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Is this a new trend where Sherdoggers don't even quote and ignore your questions?

I don't understand why you tagged me with PPV figures and assertions of stuttering?
 
I dunno, I think boxing is doing ok.. They wanted to maximize viewership, which I understand, yet they also pissed off people in the arena, so I don't think that will happen again. But boxing is doing fine..
 
Boxing killed MMA. See Conor McGregor. Got a taste of boxing money and boxing's history of being picky about opponents and hasn't taken MMA serious since.
 
The only reason MMA fighters don't make as much money as boxers is because MMA isn't regulated under the Ali Act.

If/when it does become regulated under the act, MMA fighters will make as much as boxers, if not more (as MMA is growing beyond boxing in popularity). Khabib made 6 million vs Poirier. If MMA was under the Ali act, he'd make over 15 million for that fight.

In fact, the average boxer doesn't make as much as the average MMA fighter, and if MMA were under the Ali act, the average MMA fighter would end up making several hundred thousands dollars a year. The top of the heap guys would make tens of millions of dollars a year. And this is assuming no growth in viewership. If there is growth (which there will be) it would go up even higher.
 
pwforgotlolol said:
maybe UFC guys, not MMA guys.

two different bus. models. UFCs model is much closer to WWE.

a lot of the boxing undercard fighters are not connected to the main event promoter, but fixing this problem would be easy ... but why?

Oh most UFC guys still have a full time job.

tl:dr combat sports are shit.
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boxers who made $1500 on the Canelo undercard don’t need a full time job? You sir are stupid.
 
Sakurabaism said:
It'll be in the next decade or so. MMA grows fast for such a young sport. Don't be swayed by DAZN throwing big money at boxers, they haven't made any profit yet and it's going to take a while and before they do, MMA, or UFC in this matter will grows even bigger be it in terms of popularity in the combat sports circles or in revenue.
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In terms of popularity MMA has peaked Rondas gone and Conor is losing
 
ConorFacts said:
Shit thread by another insecure fan.



UFC is the premiunm league.
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Canelo cards are premium league too, stupid!! Yes boxing pays more to a handful of fighters because of the sponsors they bring in. But the rest of the boxers make pennies. Mma/ufc is starting to really get ahead and sponsors will come. What happen when canelo can’t sell a fight?? How come we haven’t heard about triple G anymore. It’s because without Canelo nobody cares. All said and done, I don’t care who makes the most money. I just want to be entertained and boxing does not do it for me.
 
pwforgotlolol said:
cross training is nothing new: Jack dempsey was one of the first real mixed martials Artists.

Codys style is 95% boxing.

The baddest fighters are Lethwei fighters nopt some pillow fisted boxers + or gay cage wrestling.
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just because jack dempsey wrestled for strength training and wrote a trash book while brain damaged doesn't make him a mixed martial artist, any full time jiujutsu fighter or current ufc fighter would wipe the floor with him.
 
I'm a huge fan of MMA however boxing is stil a bigger draw for me

The big boxing cards are not recycled fighters that have been kid so many times

The talent pool Is just alot bigger in boxing with many more organisations and boxing
Has alot if grass riots programs in place in every country which has created a much bigger sport

UFC is still relatively young in comparison
 
RNC555 said:
When you have the number 1 boxer in the world Canelo changing his fights date due to UFC Nate vs Masvidal (two guys with 20+ losses combined) you know that MMA has officially overtaken boxing. Trump didnt go to watch Canelo, Deontay or others..

This point was brought to my attention by an interview of Frank Mir.

Yes top boxers make more than top MMA fighters at the moment. Will they still make more in a few years? or a decade?
In boxing its either making everything or making nothing. In mma is more balanced.

Anyway MMA fighters pay is constantly going up. MMA as a whole is moving up way quicker than boxing tbh.
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What? Didn't Canelo vs Kovalev take place in the same day as Mas/ Diaz?

Are you saying Canelo intentionally changed the date to directly compete with the UFC event and if so are you implying he did this out of fear? Lol.

I love both sports but was watching Boxing before MMA was even a thing so it will always be my true love and the atmosphere around a big fight in Boxing is something MMA has yet to be able to match.

As excited as I would get for Anderson/ Fedor fights and even Mas/ Diaz it's never matched the feeling and electricity in the air of a Tyson, Whitaker, Mayweather and bow a days Canelo, GGG or Fury fight, or even Crawford, Spence or Lomo fight, it's just a totally different atmosphere with Boxing.
 
robotsonic said:
Joshua is making a guaranteed $80 million for the fight on Saturday. That covers the entire fighter pay for 10 or 11 full UFC events. Until UFC can pay it's fighters like that then no boxing is the more popular sport. Those are the FACTS
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/Thread.
 
robotsonic said:
Joshua is making a guaranteed $80 million for the fight on Saturday. That covers the entire fighter pay for 10 or 11 full UFC events. Until UFC can pay it's fighters like that then no boxing is the more popular sport. Those are the FACTS
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More money at the pointy end does not mean more money overall or more popularity.


For years athletes like tiger woods, Schumacher, Floyd and pac man were the highest paid athletes, but basket ball and soccer were far more popular and had more money in the sports overall than boxing, f1 and golf.

MMA(UFC) is overall more popular than boxing, even though the HW division is the best it has been for a long time.
 
boss429 said:
What? Didn't Canelo vs Kovalev take place in the same day as Mas/ Diaz?

Are you saying Canelo intentionally changed the date to directly compete with the UFC event and if so are you implying he did this out of fear? Lol.

I love both sports but was watching Boxing before MMA was even a thing so it will always be my true love and the atmosphere around a big fight in Boxing is something MMA has yet to be able to match.

As excited as I would get for Anderson/ Fedor fights and even Mas/ Diaz it's never matched the feeling and electricity in the air of a Tyson, Whitaker, Mayweather and bow a days Canelo, GGG or Fury fight, or even Crawford, Spence or Lomo fight, it's just a totally different atmosphere with Boxing.
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Canelo vs Kovalev didnt start until Mas vs Nate was over. They literally changed the time to avoid being broadcasted at the same time.

They bent the knee in other words.
 
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