International Melbourne, metropolis of 5 million people, has gone 9 days without a COVID infection

The premier Dan Andrews' incompetence is what caused the second wave in VIC. Its funny seeing Labor supporters praising him as a hero, he should be fucking sacked. The lockdowns in VIC were some of the strictest globally, the economy tanked and our federal government has taken on another trillion $ in debt.
 
You keep going on about facts yet completely ignore them having the worst 6 months in
150 years in regards to their death toll. Just a odd coincidence hey ?

Are you simple or what? 75.6k in 10 months.

Can you wrap your coward mind around that ?

They are on track for the same death rate this year as they had for nearly a decade. You can piss and moan but but early in the year yet it's all been balanced out. Did covid take the next 4 month off lol.
 
Laos, Cambodia, and Myanmar didn't even have a single death.

Third world strategy of doing literally nothing is more effective than the police state power grab shutdowns

Yes, clearly reverting our country to an underdeveloped agrarian society with a 25% urban population is more feasible and wise than adopting the lockdown policies of other highly developed countries.
 
The premier Dan Andrews' incompetence is what caused the second wave in VIC. Its funny seeing Labor supporters praising him as a hero, he should be fucking sacked. The lockdowns in VIC were some of the strictest globally, the economy tanked and our federal government has taken on another trillion $ in debt.

Trillion you say?

You being sarcastic or willing to source that
 
Are you simple or what? 75.6k in 10 months.

Can you wrap your coward mind around that ?

They are on track for the same death rate this year as they had for nearly a decade. You can piss and moan but but early in the year yet it's all been balanced out. Did covid take the next 4 month off lol.

You're absolutely pointless to attempt to have a rational discussion with. Have fun
 
You really got me there.
the virus' point of origin is wuhan china, they claim first cases appeared in Nov 2019, wuhan was lockdown from the rest of china Jan 23 2020, international travel out of china continued as normal.
now if china is not responsible for this enlighten me as to who is
 
They can wince all they want but people in their countries died too. How pathetic are they for not looking at their own situation and instead looking at us here?

What the fuck are you blabbering about? The Aussies aren't tossing this in our face in some vindictive fashion. What is being done is that people are comparing our response to theirs and it's crystal clear which one was more efficient at both limiting the spread of the virus and lessening of the economic hit.

Why wouldn't we take the time to look elsewhere to see what worked and what didn't?
 
5 days ago ..

Sweden has limited to eight per table the number of people sitting together in cafes and restaurants, amid a sharp rise in coronavirus infections.

"We have a very serious situation," Prime Minister Stefan Löfven warned, saying the virus was "going in the wrong direction".

Sweden has reported 31 Covid deaths since Friday, taking the death toll to 5,969 - far higher than its neighbours.


Mr Löfven also announced stricter recommendations - including avoiding public transport and non-essential shopping - for another three regions: Halland, Örebro and Jönköping,


But but there's no difference in the death toll . Taking no action is exactly the same as taking action...

Swedes face a new wave of restrictions after daily coronavirus cases hit a record, with the government warning of a grim winter ahead.

Prime Minister Stefan Lofven, speaking to reporters on Tuesday, said his country is now facing a “very serious situation” that requires tougher measures if the virus is to be fought back.

The resurgence of Covid-19 across Europe has caught the region off guard after a summer that left many countries assuming they’d brought the virus under control. But as citizens grew complacent and temperatures dropped, the pandemic has returned with a vengeance.

Lofven warned that the latest development is putting Sweden’s health-care system under pressure, as more intensive care beds get filled.

“The brief respite that we got during the summer is over,” he said. “How we act now will determine what kind of Christmas we will be able to celebrate, and who will be able to take part.”

 
the virus' point of origin is wuhan china, they claim first cases appeared in Nov 2019, wuhan was lockdown from the rest of china Jan 23 2020, international travel out of china continued as normal.
now if china is not responsible for this enlighten me as to who is

I don't get this argument. Everyone understands and rightly criticizes China for both the initial outbreak and allowing the virus to spread outside it's borders. But no one should be surprised of China's shit actions on the world stage. That's no excuse for the US, or any other nation, to fuck up the response to the degree that we have. We know that by late December at the latest that this virus would appear in the US at some point.

Yet Trump did nothing until the end of February, with his half-assed China ban. And he's done nothing but fucked the dog ever since. Christ, by the time of the election his administration had all but thrown in the towel on Covid. All they've done in the past three months is cry that it gets talked about; routinely promised a vaccine was just around the corner (Trump claiming it was a mere two weeks away back in June) even if everyone in our health sector and all pharmacutical industries flatly disagreeing.

People need to stop throwing out two-wrong arguments all the time. We were supposed to have learned that by grade school. Just because China started this mess doesn't mean the US is blameless for failing it's own citizens.
 
Australia has done a great job, but it also has great advantages.
 
Very envious, we've completely fucked our response in the UK and we're paying dearly for it now.
 
What the fuck are you blabbering about? The Aussies aren't tossing this in our face in some vindictive fashion. What is being done is that people are comparing our response to theirs and it's crystal clear which one was more efficient at both limiting the spread of the virus and lessening of the economic hit.

Why wouldn't we take the time to look elsewhere to see what worked and what didn't?
Dude, he can't comprehend people being decent. It's not his fault, it comes with being a piece of shit.
 
All these draconian lockdowns are doing is putting off the inevitable. If there isn't a vaccine in the next 6 months that can be mass produced these economies are going to be non-existent because there will be reintroductions of the virus to these cities.
 
“There are countries that have the technical expertise and the capacity to do exactly what Victoria has done, but they haven’t. In other parts of the world, that same political leadership hasn’t supported the expert advice. And the truth is, those communities have paid the price with their lives.”

On November 6, 640,000 new COVID cases were reported worldwide. 126,000, or about 20%, were reported in the United States. Meanwhile, Melbourne, Australia has proclaimed that it is COVID-free and is now easing public restrictions as it has gone more than a week without a single new COVID case.

Melbourne has gone more than a week without any reported Covid-19 cases, and the majority of its 5 million residents aren’t taking chances.

Melbourne Cup horse race -- known locally as the “race that stops the nation” -- was held Tuesday without spectators, while people go about their daily activities in mandatory masks.

“While the medicine’s been really tough and really hard to swallow, it’s done the job,” said Terry Slevin, chief executive officer of the Public Health Association of Australia. “It’s very important to acknowledge the economic, social and community pain that goes with the loss of freedoms, but along with that comes a successful means of managing this viral pandemic.”

Security failures at hotels used to quarantine returning overseas travelers enabled the SARS-CoV-2 virus to spread across metropolitan Melbourne, creating the nation’s worst Covid hotspot. The flare-up showed “you can’t relax your attention,” said Helen Clark, the former New Zealand prime minister who is co-chairing an independent evaluation of the early global response to the pandemic.

‘Paid Off’
Like in Melbourne, New Zealanders accepted unprecedented restrictions on their freedom of movement in the wake of the pandemic, Clark said in an interview from Auckland Tuesday. “But it paid off, and today we live in a much more relaxed life than sadly people in many other countries do.”

Soon Australia, New Zealand and other countries enjoying a diminished Covid threat could resume international travel in “a bubble approach” that would afford some safety in the absence of a licensed vaccine, Clark said.

“Having had success in stamping it out and continuing to stamp it out whenever it appears, you don’t want to import cases willy nilly,” she said. “The reality is, for countries that bungle the public health response, the economic damage is going to be deeper and longer lasting.”

Every day without a coronavirus case puts Victoria closer to successfully “shutting down local transmission,” said Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology at Melbourne’s Deakin University. No SARS-CoV-2 infections were found among the 16,914 people tested Friday, the state health department said. Two were found on Oct. 29, the last time cases were reported in the state.

Screening, Monitoring
Each week, Victoria is screening thousands of high-risk workers including from the aged-care and meat-packing industries, regularly monitoring wastewater for traces of the virus, and has vastly improved its ability to trace and isolate the contacts of cases, Bennett said.

“That certainly builds your confidence that all is quiet,” she said. “We, hopefully, now have a health system strong enough that we don’t have to face a third wave because we’ve got early warning, we’ve got sentinel surveillance, and we’ve got a really active, aggressive follow-up if cases start reappearing.”

Melbourne is now gradually loosening restrictions as it heads toward what the national government calls “Covid normal.” A 25-kilometer (16-mile) limit on traveling away from home will be lifted midnight Sunday.

If no new Covid-19 cases are reported in Victoria for 14 days, limits on public gatherings will be increased to 50 people outdoors and 20 visitors inside homes. After 28 days without cases, all restrictions will be lifted, with a phased return to on-site work for people who have been working from home since March.
The strategy is working because Victorian residents and the government have followed expert advice, said Slevin of the Public Health Association of Australia.

‘Paid the Price’
“There are countries that have the technical expertise and the capacity to do exactly what Victoria has done, but they haven’t,” he said. “In other parts of the world, that same political leadership hasn’t supported the expert advice. And the truth is, those communities have paid the price with their lives.”

Australia, with a population of 25 million, recorded 907 Covid-19 deaths from 27,645 cases as of Friday. It’s not taking that low tally for granted.

Sydney’s Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade will be held in a stadium in front of 23,000 seated spectators next March, and organizers of the Australian Open in January are preparing to welcome a reduced crowd to the tennis tournament in Melbourne.

The hiss of disinfectant spray periodically broke the silence aboard a Melbourne streetcar recently as it rumbled past sparsely populated beachside patisseries, cafes and clothing stores. The half-dozen face mask-wearing passengers sat quietly rows apart as a cleaner sanitized tram surfaces around them.

In the suburb of St Kilda, bistros and bars usually jammed with tourists and holidaymakers on a Friday afternoon were hosting gatherings of mostly construction workers and families at outdoor tables served by face mask-clad waiting staff dutifully recording patrons’ contact details.

“I can’t see it going back to what it was before,” said Nicole Laski, who manages Monarch Cakes, a family-owned patisserie on Ackland Street established in 1934. “I think everyone’s learned a valuable lesson.”

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So the cure is totalitarianism. Sweet.
 
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