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International Melbourne, metropolis of 5 million people, has gone 9 days without a COVID infection

Discussion in 'The War Room' started by Trotsky, Nov 7, 2020.

  1. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    “There are countries that have the technical expertise and the capacity to do exactly what Victoria has done, but they haven’t. In other parts of the world, that same political leadership hasn’t supported the expert advice. And the truth is, those communities have paid the price with their lives.”

    On November 6, 640,000 new COVID cases were reported worldwide. 126,000, or about 20%, were reported in the United States. Meanwhile, Melbourne, Australia has proclaimed that it is COVID-free and is now easing public restrictions as it has gone more than a week without a single new COVID case.

    Melbourne has gone more than a week without any reported Covid-19 cases, and the majority of its 5 million residents aren’t taking chances.

    Melbourne Cup horse race -- known locally as the “race that stops the nation” -- was held Tuesday without spectators, while people go about their daily activities in mandatory masks.

    “While the medicine’s been really tough and really hard to swallow, it’s done the job,” said Terry Slevin, chief executive officer of the Public Health Association of Australia. “It’s very important to acknowledge the economic, social and community pain that goes with the loss of freedoms, but along with that comes a successful means of managing this viral pandemic.”

    Security failures at hotels used to quarantine returning overseas travelers enabled the SARS-CoV-2 virus to spread across metropolitan Melbourne, creating the nation’s worst Covid hotspot. The flare-up showed “you can’t relax your attention,” said Helen Clark, the former New Zealand prime minister who is co-chairing an independent evaluation of the early global response to the pandemic.

    ‘Paid Off’
    Like in Melbourne, New Zealanders accepted unprecedented restrictions on their freedom of movement in the wake of the pandemic, Clark said in an interview from Auckland Tuesday. “But it paid off, and today we live in a much more relaxed life than sadly people in many other countries do.”

    Soon Australia, New Zealand and other countries enjoying a diminished Covid threat could resume international travel in “a bubble approach” that would afford some safety in the absence of a licensed vaccine, Clark said.

    “Having had success in stamping it out and continuing to stamp it out whenever it appears, you don’t want to import cases willy nilly,” she said. “The reality is, for countries that bungle the public health response, the economic damage is going to be deeper and longer lasting.”

    Every day without a coronavirus case puts Victoria closer to successfully “shutting down local transmission,” said Catherine Bennett, chair in epidemiology at Melbourne’s Deakin University. No SARS-CoV-2 infections were found among the 16,914 people tested Friday, the state health department said. Two were found on Oct. 29, the last time cases were reported in the state.

    Screening, Monitoring
    Each week, Victoria is screening thousands of high-risk workers including from the aged-care and meat-packing industries, regularly monitoring wastewater for traces of the virus, and has vastly improved its ability to trace and isolate the contacts of cases, Bennett said.

    “That certainly builds your confidence that all is quiet,” she said. “We, hopefully, now have a health system strong enough that we don’t have to face a third wave because we’ve got early warning, we’ve got sentinel surveillance, and we’ve got a really active, aggressive follow-up if cases start reappearing.”

    Melbourne is now gradually loosening restrictions as it heads toward what the national government calls “Covid normal.” A 25-kilometer (16-mile) limit on traveling away from home will be lifted midnight Sunday.

    If no new Covid-19 cases are reported in Victoria for 14 days, limits on public gatherings will be increased to 50 people outdoors and 20 visitors inside homes. After 28 days without cases, all restrictions will be lifted, with a phased return to on-site work for people who have been working from home since March.
    The strategy is working because Victorian residents and the government have followed expert advice, said Slevin of the Public Health Association of Australia.

    ‘Paid the Price’
    “There are countries that have the technical expertise and the capacity to do exactly what Victoria has done, but they haven’t,” he said. “In other parts of the world, that same political leadership hasn’t supported the expert advice. And the truth is, those communities have paid the price with their lives.”

    Australia, with a population of 25 million, recorded 907 Covid-19 deaths from 27,645 cases as of Friday. It’s not taking that low tally for granted.

    Sydney’s Gay and Lesbian Mardi Gras parade will be held in a stadium in front of 23,000 seated spectators next March, and organizers of the Australian Open in January are preparing to welcome a reduced crowd to the tennis tournament in Melbourne.

    The hiss of disinfectant spray periodically broke the silence aboard a Melbourne streetcar recently as it rumbled past sparsely populated beachside patisseries, cafes and clothing stores. The half-dozen face mask-wearing passengers sat quietly rows apart as a cleaner sanitized tram surfaces around them.

    In the suburb of St Kilda, bistros and bars usually jammed with tourists and holidaymakers on a Friday afternoon were hosting gatherings of mostly construction workers and families at outdoor tables served by face mask-clad waiting staff dutifully recording patrons’ contact details.

    “I can’t see it going back to what it was before,” said Nicole Laski, who manages Monarch Cakes, a family-owned patisserie on Ackland Street established in 1934. “I think everyone’s learned a valuable lesson.”

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  2. forum poster Brown Belt

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    Yeah the travel restrictions just got lifted too. they still have pretty strict rules and the premier is being called a tyrant.
    I'm up further north and we've been almost fully opened and case free for months. Still fairly strict rules and precautions most places you go but basically fully opened.
     
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  3. McSpikes Purple Belt

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    Who gives a fuck about about COVID nowadays? Trump lost, we can stop pretending its a big deal
     
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    Wow, is that what having adults in charge looks like?
     
  5. Mr. Shickadance Ventura Platinum Member

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    But wearing a mask is an mk-ultra experiment where scorpion takes away cash services for moloch’s cashless society
     
  6. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    Well, every rational person does. This is the difference between them and Trump supporters.

    COVID to rational adults isn't like the deficit to Republicans. It won't suddenly not matter when a Democrat is in office. People are still dying, hospitals are still nearing capacity in some places, and the country is still a laughing stock for its singularly terrible response.
     
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    Laughing stock to who? I haven't heard anybody laughing about the Covid response.
     
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  8. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    Sorry, maybe that wasn't the correct expression.

    What's a good expression for millions of people across hundreds of countries wincing in disgust because a moron with no experience or empathy refused to take actions for fear that it would hurt his political stock and instead insisted it would magically go away while thousands of his countrymen died and his country became the biggest hub for infections and deaths in the world?
     
  9. Legicato Orange Belt

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    And their yearly deaths will be as effected as Sweden's. No different then last year's.

    Two different methods same yearly results.
     
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  10. spacegnome Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    pretending its not a big deal was trumps thing. the rest of us would like to treat it seriously thanks.
     
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  11. KeepingItReal Green Belt

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    They can wince all they want but people in their countries died too. How pathetic are they for not looking at their own situation and instead looking at us here? It's pretty sickening that if one country does a little bit better in Covid response they then want to shit all over countries that are doing worse. Feeling good about yourself about doing a little better than others isn't a virtue, it's a fucking sickness. It's the same as feeling good about yourself because others are below you in some shape, way or form.
     
  12. Cid Silver Belt

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    Sweden is almost as bad as America right now. What the fuck are you talking about?
     
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    I think the whole of Australia went two days with no local transmission last week?

    We keep getting blips of one or two a day which is kind of annoying. But at least it's not 127,000 a day.
     
  14. Trotsky Banned Banned

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    Huh?

    People in other countries are bad for....caring about US citizens more than the president or his dumbass sycophantic supporters who even as we speak are bitching about minor inconveniences like wearing a mask? It's truly incredible that you could turn you and your leader's colossal, self-serving fuckup that killed a quarter million people into a claim of victimhood. It's like an entire ideology of whiny irresponsibility
     
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    Pretty simple Roos can't catch the rona.
     
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  16. spacegnome Brown Belt Platinum Member

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    dude...... if those countries did way better by following medical experts advice then we should have too and still can if we can get some kind of legitimate leadership that values and respects science and compassion for other peoples lives.

    why turn this into an attack on them instead of a learning opportunity for us?
     
  17. rollinguillotin Blue Belt

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    China is responsible for ALL the covid deaths worldwide.
     
  18. Oeshon Steel Belt

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    Laos, Cambodia, and Myanmar didn't even have a single death.

    Third world strategy of doing literally nothing is more effective than the police state power grab shutdowns
     
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    I'm talking about reality. Sweden's death rate will be fuck all higher then what they been having for years. They haven't had a day above 20 covid death since June.

    Sweden and Australia will have the normal logical expected death rate as last years. Covid will effect neither one.
     
  20. Cid Silver Belt

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    They will soon. Their numbers are exploding.

    Maybe try to keep up with current events.
     
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