News McGregor back in court

Tbh I could see them maybe reopening the case depending on how Conor does on the trial. I'm not sure how well he'll keep his calm during cross examination.
 
Mickf said:
You clearly haven't watched the video of the court proceedings today.
There is two rape defendants in this trial james lawrence and conor mcgregor. She is not claiming james is lying to protect Conor. Which would make a lot more sense. She probably thought there was dna evidence when the gardai brought her back in for a statement after james had said it and now she can't change her statement. She is saying she can't remember having sex with james but he said he did so he raped her.
The bit she clearly remembered in the lift saying to james "why would you let conor do this sort of stuff" wasn't in her first statement to gardai or her friend emer brennan who she spoke with the next day. It was added later.
After the alleged incident and around the time she was seen on cctv going back up to the room with james. she txted her boyfriend pretending she was in the goat pub with her female friends. She ordered food said she can't remember eating it.
Her female friend has made a statement saying nikita had got her to delete messages she had sent her relating to the night.
The other girl that was with her that night is not co-oberating any of her story.
Im not saying what she said happened didn't happen. But it wouldn't stand up in a criminal court hence no criminal trial.
I personally think there was some consenual sexual activity between her and conor. But then conor took it way too far. So it does meet the criteria for sexual assault and rape. But it would be so hard to get a conviction with the inconsistencies is why it wasn't prosecuted in a criminal court.
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I'm not sure how any of this conflicts with what I said, and I don't see the inconsistency.

She is not claiming that Lawrence raped her, she claims she has no memory of any of it, and that the story of consensual sex with him is a fabrication. If they indeed had sex without her consent or ability to consent, then it was rape, but she's not claiming knowledge of this happening because she does not remember. I do not know if they have Lawrence's DNA as they do Conor's.

She claims she remembers being in the lift with Lawrence questioning him about accepting what Conor had done, but none of the parking lot affectionate gestures, or anything else.

Food was ordered, she remembers it, but not eating it.

That's what I said, you just added further details. What is the inconsistency in her story?
 
Mickf said:
You clearly haven't watched the video of the court proceedings today.
There is two rape defendants in this trial james lawrence and conor mcgregor. She is not claiming james is lying to protect Conor. Which would make a lot more sense. She probably thought there was dna evidence when the gardai brought her back in for a statement after james had said it and now she can't change her statement. She is saying she can't remember having sex with james but he said he did so he raped her.
The bit she clearly remembered in the lift saying to james "why would you let conor do this sort of stuff" wasn't in her first statement to gardai or her friend emer brennan who she spoke with the next day. It was added later.
After the alleged incident and around the time she was seen on cctv going back up to the room with james. she txted her boyfriend pretending she was in the goat pub with her female friends. She ordered food said she can't remember eating it.
Her female friend has made a statement saying nikita had got her to delete messages she had sent her relating to the night.
The other girl that was with her that night is not co-oberating any of her story.
Im not saying what she said happened didn't happen. But it wouldn't stand up in a criminal court hence no criminal trial.
I personally think there was some consenual sexual activity between her and conor. But then conor took it way too far. So it does meet the criteria for sexual assault and rape. But it would be so hard to get a conviction with the inconsistencies is why it wasn't prosecuted in a criminal court.
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Buy she is claiming James is lying because she stated that she doesn't believe they had sex at all. She believes he's lying about having sex with her. She initially said she had no issues with him but little did she know he was claiming to of had sex with her too.

Who said the other girl isn't Co oberating her story? If not than that's a concern for her case for sure.

I agree it's not too hard to believe she consented to something sexual and that he than took it too far. I find it unlikely that she followed him into the bathroom though and made a move on him. Majority of women are gonna be in awe in his company and no matter how bad they want him, they would be afraid to make a sexual advance. Ofc i could be wrong but I think it's far more probablr that he made the first move. Even in public he's not shy with women one bit.

No idea to prove this but i think Lawrence may have been told to say he had sex with her too. His involvement makes a conviction against Conor alot more difficult. Some ppl are claiming she had sex with both men and got caught by her bf so she made the story of rape up but that doesn't make sense either because if it was just consensus sex and she wasn't left damaged in any way, she could have said nothing to her bf. He didn't need to know. He thought she was with the girls all night.

Ultimately it's pretty probable that she was raped but i can see how Mcgregors lawyer would look at everything end say, we can fight this. It's not as clear cut it probably should have been.
 
krelianx said:
I'm not sure how any of this conflicts with what I said, and I don't see the inconsistency.

She is not claiming that Lawrence raped her, she claims she has no memory of any of it, and that the story of consensual sex with him is a fabrication. If they indeed had sex without her consent or ability to consent, then it was rape, but she's not claiming knowledge of this happening because she does not remember. I do not know if they have Lawrence's DNA as they do Conor's.

She claims she remembers being in the lift with Lawrence questioning him about accepting what Conor had done, but none of the parking lot affectionate gestures, or anything else.

Food was ordered, she remembers it, but not eating it.

That's what I said, you just added further details. What is the inconsistency in her story?
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Just to add. If she was a liar and fabricated this whole thing. Surely within days when she realises there was CCTV everywhere she would know she's gonna look bad etc and drop charges.

I think the fact she's proceeding and adamant that she was raped regardless of what she's been seeing doing on CCTV is her own way of saying. I did shit iam not proud of and it doesn't help my case but i was still raped and iam not lying about that.

Next week will be interesting. I think if the friend that was there that night isn't cooberating her story than she has a problem but wouldn't surprise me if she was intimidated to stay quiet. Iam expecting twist and turns to come
 
Rollio98 said:
Just to add. If she was a liar and fabricated this whole thing. Surely within days when she realises there was CCTV everywhere she would know she's gonna look bad etc and drop charges.

I think the fact she's proceeding and adamant that she was raped regardless of what she's been seeing doing on CCTV is her own way of saying. I did shit iam not proud of and it doesn't help my case but i was still raped and iam not lying about that.

Next week will be interesting. I think if the friend that was there that night isn't cooberating her story than she has a problem but wouldn't surprise me if she was intimidated to stay quiet. Iam expecting twist and turns to come
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Yeah I don't think the friend has been on the stand yet.
 
krelianx said:
What the fuck are you talking about? Sexual assault accusations are only made against rich people? And typically without evidence? What?

Where are you getting these neanderthal grade ideas from? Sexual assault accusations occur at every stratum of every social class. This case has and has had more than ample evidence. Conviction is a different matter.

Don't talk about what you don't know.
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Sorry I was just speaking to the data. It's been well observed, recorded and documented. I'll throw that all away so you can try to get laid. Continue on your virtue march great white knight.
 
MarleyLynx said:
Sorry I was just speaking to the data. It's been well observed, recorded and documented. I'll throw that all away so you can try to get laid. Continue on your virtue march great white knight.
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I don't think it's particularly relevant to talk about that in this thread tbh. Conor is guilty as shit.
 
MarleyLynx said:
Sorry I was just speaking to the data. It's been well observed, recorded and documented. I'll throw that all away so you can try to get laid. Continue on your virtue march great white knight.
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What data? You're a lying sack of shit.

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False allegations of sexual assault: An analysis of ten years of reported cases​

ABSTRACT
One of the most controversial disputes affecting the discourse related to violence against women is the dispute about the frequency of false allegations of sexual assault. In an effort to add clarity to the discourse, published research on false allegations is critiqued, and the results of a new study described. All cases (N = 136) of sexual assault reported to a major Northeastern university over a 10-year period are analyzed to determine the percentage of false allegations. Of the 136 cases of sexual assault reported over the 10-year period, 8 (5.9%) are coded as false allegations. These results, taken in the context of an examination of previous research, indicate that the prevalence of false allegations is between 2% and 10%.


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False Reporting Review of research
To date, much of the research conducted on the prevalence of false allegations of sexual assaults is unreliable because of inconsistencies with definitions and methods employed to evaluate data (Archambault, n.d.). A review of research f inds that the prevalence of false reporting is between 2 percent and 10 percent. The following studies support these findings: y A multi-site study of eight U.S. communities including 2,059 cases of sexual assault found a 7.1 percent rate of false reports (Lonsway, Archambault, & Lisak, 2009). y A study of 136 sexual assault cases in Boston from 1998-2007 found a 5.9 percent rate of fa

https://www.nsvrc.org/sites/default...C_Overview_False-Reporting.pdf?form=MG0AV3lse reports (Lisak et al., 2010).

Using qualitative and quantitative analysis, researchers studied 812 reports of sexual assault from 2000-2003 and found a 2.1 percent rate of false reports (Heenan & Murray 2006).

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Archambault, J. (n.d.). Unfounded cases and false reports: A complex problem [PowerPoint slides]. Retrieved from the Iowa Coalition Against Sexual Assault: http://www.iowacasa.org/UserDocs/A3,_A4_ Archambault_FALSE_REPORTS.pdf Archambault, J. (2005, Winter). So how many rapes are false? STOP Newsletter. Retrieved from the Pennsylvania Coalition Against Rape: http://www.pcar.org/sites/default/files/STOP_2005_False_Reporting.pdf

Lonsway, K. A., Archambault, J., & Lisak, D. (2009). False reports: Moving beyond the issue to successfully investigate and prosecute non-stranger sexual assault. The Voice, 3(1), 1-11. Retrieved from the National District Attorneys Association: http://www.ndaa.org/pdf/the_voice_vol_3_no_1_2009.pdf

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False allegations of sexual assualt: an analysis of ten years of reported cases

David Lisak 1, Lori Gardinier, Sarah C Nicksa, Ashley M Cote
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PMID: 21164210 DOI: 10.1177/1077801210387747
Abstract
One of the most controversial disputes affecting the discourse related to violence against women is the dispute about the frequency of false allegations of sexual assault. In an effort to add clarity to the discourse, published research on false allegations is critiqued, and the results of a new study described. All cases (N = 136) of sexual assault reported to a major Northeastern university over a 10-year period are analyzed to determine the percentage of false allegations. Of the 136 cases of sexual assault reported over the 10-year period, 8 (5.9%) are coded as false allegations. These results, taken in the context of an examination of previous research, indicate that the prevalence of false allegations is between 2% and 10%.

Gap or a Chasm?: Attrition in Reported Rape Cases | Office of Justice Programs

www.ojp.gov www.ojp.gov


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Economic Status and the Legal System​

While not specifically focused on sexual assault, studies examining how economic status impacts the outcomes of criminal cases more broadly can provide some insights. Research shows that individuals with higher socioeconomic status often benefit from better legal representation, which could affect the outcomes of sexual assault cases. These outcomes, in turn, might influence perceptions of guilt or innocence.

Title: “The Effects of Socioeconomic Status on Criminal Justice Outcomes”
Authors: Various (general research on class and the justice system)
Summary: This body of research generally supports the idea that wealthier individuals are more likely to avoid conviction or receive lighter sentences due to access to better defense resources. This may apply in sexual assault cases as well, as wealthy defendants can afford high-powered legal teams that may discredit accusations more effectively than poorer defendants can.

Social Problems, Journal of Criminal Justice, and American Sociological Review.
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“Rape Culture, Power, and Privilege: The Role of Social Class”
Author: Various
Summary: This research explores how individuals with higher social or economic status are less likely to be perceived as perpetrators of sexual assault, and how power dynamics may influence the public's or jurors' beliefs about the credibility of the victim. Economic power can skew public perceptions and influence case outcomes, including reducing the likelihood of criminal charges or conviction.

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Rape Myth Acceptance and Gender Roles in a Context of Social Class”
Authors: Various
Summary: This research highlights how people from wealthier or more privileged backgrounds may be less likely to believe women from marginalized socioeconomic backgrounds when they make sexual assault accusations, thus potentially leading to bias in the legal system.
Psychology of Women Quarterly and Sex Roles.


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Hellowhosthat said:
I don't think it's particularly relevant to talk about that in this thread tbh. Conor is guilty as shit.
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Actually, it is insofar as that kind of baseless bigotry shows that people are willing to ignore everything that has been shown not only on this case but historically to justify their biases.

One has to be scum to turn a blind eye to shit like this.
 
MarleyLynx said:
Sorry I was just speaking to the data. It's been well observed, recorded and documented. I'll throw that all away so you can try to get laid. Continue on your virtue march great white knight.
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Where does one go to see the recorded data?
 
Someone just posted this to X. Hard to confirm it's him but does look like him in the third video. Presume that's Dee he's getting it on with. Can't imagine my misses would go anywhere near me if i was up on a rape charge. Whatever floats their boat i guess

 
Rollio98 said:
Someone just posted this to X. Hard to confirm it's him but does look like him in the third video. Presume that's Dee he's getting it on with. Can't imagine my misses would go anywhere near me if i was up on a rape charge. Whatever floats their boat i guess

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Can't believe someone is posted outside just to walk and record this.
 
Mickf said:
You clearly haven't watched the video of the court proceedings today.
There is two rape defendants in this trial james lawrence and conor mcgregor. She is not claiming james is lying to protect Conor. Which would make a lot more sense. She probably thought there was dna evidence when the gardai brought her back in for a statement after james had said it and now she can't change her statement. She is saying she can't remember having sex with james but he said he did so he raped her.
The bit she clearly remembered in the lift saying to james "why would you let conor do this sort of stuff" wasn't in her first statement to gardai or her friend emer brennan who she spoke with the next day. It was added later.
After the alleged incident and around the time she was seen on cctv going back up to the room with james. she txted her boyfriend pretending she was in the goat pub with her female friends. She ordered food said she can't remember eating it.
Her female friend has made a statement saying nikita had got her to delete messages she had sent her relating to the night.
The other girl that was with her that night is not co-oberating any of her story.
Im not saying what she said happened didn't happen. But it wouldn't stand up in a criminal court hence no criminal trial.
I personally think there was some consenual sexual activity between her and conor. But then conor took it way too far. So it does meet the criteria for sexual assault and rape. But it would be so hard to get a conviction with the inconsistencies is why it wasn't prosecuted in a criminal court.
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Thank you for the update. I'm not following the trial, and wanted a real update. You are the only person posting real unbiased information. Everyone else in here is posting on emotion, and hate. Felt like I was scrolling through the war room...
 
Rollio98 said:
Someone just posted this to X. Hard to confirm it's him but does look like him in the third video. Presume that's Dee he's getting it on with. Can't imagine my misses would go anywhere near me if i was up on a rape charge. Whatever floats their boat i guess

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This has since been removed. What was it exactly?
 
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