News McGregor back in court

[Clark Rogers]

Numbnuts, he doesn't care about rape, but about absolute truth and undeniable evidence.

And he thinks he is being "rational" and smart.

I ain't even getting into the Conor case stuff, it's outside the point I'm about to make.

If you're going to play the moral authority card, you should prob back off the "kill yourself" suggestions (I've counted two maybe 3 on page 9 and 10 alone).

No matter how correct the stance you're debating may be, those kinda make you sound like a hypocritical moron. "Rape bad, suicide good" is effectively what you're saying.

 

[Mind Mine]

K.

*edit*, fuck it, I'll be nicer. You do understand that my entire post was about public perception, because that was the first 2 words of my post, yeah? Nothing in what I said was he was factually guilty, just that people ignored that and everyone treated it as if he was. Like I said, everyone knew (which was italicized for emphasis). That was just the pop culture at the time. And nothing of the many details that have come out since that's shined doubt on that knowledge erases that that was the case.

You are using public perception on guilt and an analogy on a situation that is insanely deeper than surface is my point

 

[Mohawk Banditó]

You are using public perception on guilt and an analogy on a situation that is insanely deeper than surface is my point

It's the most popular example in history of an entire populace perceiving the matter to be contrary to the results.

 

[Nizam al-Mulk]

Exactly, when in fact the opposite is true. The amount of accusers who just flatly make shit up and for money is very fkn small.

Men who just assume that shit piss me off.

There are those that we hear about and those that get resolved with payment.

 

[MarleyLynx]

Either he has the worst damn luck for getting accused of multiple rape allegations, or he's the luckiest sob ever getting off repeatedly

They say innocent until proven guilty, but look how many powerful people that got off with sexual crimes for many years

No smoke without fire
Hopefully some day he will face real justice in a criminal court

The problem is that it only happens to the rich and typically without evidence. If I said you SA someone there would be smoke but does that mean there's a fire?

 

[MarleyLynx]

There are those that we hear about and those that get resolved with payment.

A lot of time they go the payment route even if innocent because it's cheaper than the legal fees and saves time.

 

[krelianx]

The problem is that it only happens to the rich and typically without evidence. If I said you SA someone there would be smoke but does that mean there's a fire?

What the fuck are you talking about? Sexual assault accusations are only made against rich people? And typically without evidence? What?

Where are you getting these neanderthal grade ideas from? Sexual assault accusations occur at every stratum of every social class. This case has and has had more than ample evidence. Conviction is a different matter.

Don't talk about what you don't know.

 

[fortheo]

"She added: “He let me go and I remember saying I was sorry, as I felt that I did something wrong and I wanted to reassure him that I wouldn’t tell anyone so he wouldn’t hurt me again.

“Then he said that’s how he felt when he was in the Octagon and had to tap out three times. I thought it was such a weird thing to say."

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People think her saying Conor said that was too ridiculous to be true. I say the opposite - as if she's gonna make up something so fkn weird and what sounds ridiculous, and then re-iterate it in court, and point it out like that.

This obviously happened. The fact this cunt is walking out the court grinning rn... He's gonna go down one day, you can't just go around raping women constantly and get away with it forever.

She also:

- did leave her job
- did see a counsellor and pay for this for years, this is documented...

To anyone who thinks she's lying - do you seriously think she went to a counsellor for years, lying, to concoct this whole thing? lmfao. Deluded.

They already think that she willingly let herself get beat up badly and have a tampon stuck so far up her that the doctor said he'd never seen any thing like it before.

If they think she willingly agreed to that, I'm sure they can stretch their imagination to believe anything to make this girl look like the malicious party.

 

[Mickf]

I think there is a good chance Mcgregor did it. But based on the evidence there is no way this would stand up in a criminal court.
The whole thing with James Lawrence does take a lot out of her credibility.
This is a good breakdown of what happened in court today

 

[Rollio98]

I think there is a good chance Mcgregor did it. But based on the evidence there is no way this would stand up in a criminal court.
The whole thing with James Lawrence does take a lot out of her credibility.
This is a good breakdown of what happened in court today

I don't get why it wouldn't hold up. You have a woman who left his hotel bruised and battered to the point where she goes to a hospital and has a tampon surgically removed and it's confirmed that she's upset and in distress. Likewise the garda confirms she's in distress and her statement matches her story etc She later quits her job and ends up seeking counselling.

How on earth can you think she did all that after consensual sex. And if his dna was found. What more proof can she possibly provide

 

[Roids]

I think there is a good chance Mcgregor did it. But based on the evidence there is no way this would stand up in a criminal court.
The whole thing with James Lawrence does take a lot out of her credibility.
This is a good breakdown of what happened in court today

If this case does not have enough evidence for a criminal rape trial, then basically none ever would. Sexual assault cases get taken to trial and win, decades after the event with zero forensic evidence. This was a clearly corrupt decision and needs to be reviewed.

 

[krelianx]

I think there is a good chance Mcgregor did it. But based on the evidence there is no way this would stand up in a criminal court.
The whole thing with James Lawrence does take a lot out of her credibility.
This is a good breakdown of what happened in court today

They have his DNA, multiple injuries, doctor certified reported trauma and injuries that exceed any plausible concensus, reported anxiety, consistent counseling. The woman had to have a tampon removed from her with a forcep, indication of possible vaginal tear, 9cm of bruises around her breast, wrist, body.

And an attempt to go to criminal court. She wanted to pursue a criminal case, and it was dismissed.

If that is not enough, nothing is. Anyone who defends Conor at this point is a piece of shit and that's it.

 

[krelianx]

I ain't even getting into the Conor case stuff, it's outside the point I'm about to make.

If you're going to play the moral authority card, you should prob back off the "kill yourself" suggestions (I've counted two maybe 3 on page 9 and 10 alone).

No matter how correct the stance you're debating may be, those kinda make you sound like a hypocritical moron. "Rape bad, suicide good" is effectively what you're saying.

I don't consider suicide immoral. One can do whatever one wants with one's life.

Raping another human being is a different story.

 

[Mickf]

I don't get why it wouldn't hold up. You have a woman who left his hotel bruised and battered to the point where she goes to a hospital and has a tampon surgically removed and it's confirmed that she's upset and in distress. Likewise the garda confirms she's in distress and her statement matches her story etc She later quits her job and ends up seeking counselling.

How on earth can you think she did all that after consensual sex. And if his dna was found. What more proof can she possibly provide

Did you listen to the video?
James lawrence was brought in for interview by the gardai as a witness. He said he had sex with her twice after. Conor had left when they both went back up to the hotel room. She is seen on cctv. Kissing james on the cheek and biting his ear. When she was brought back in for interview after james said this. She said she can't remember so he must of raped me too. Thats why james is also a defendent in this trial.
The department of public prosecution was sent a file of all the info in this trial and decided not to pursue it for a reason.
The bar for a civil trial is much lower.
By the way im not saying Conor didn't do it. Im just sayin with all the inconsistencies. It would be hard to prove that he did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is what you need for a criminal case.

 

[Rollio98]

Did you listen to the video?
James lawrence was brought in for interview by the gardai as a witness. He said he had sex with her twice after. Conor had left when they both went back up to the hotel room. She is seen on cctv. Kissing james on the cheek and biting his ear. When she was brought back in for interview after james said this. She said she can't remember so he must of raped me too. Thats why james is also a defendent in this trial.
The department of public prosecution was sent a file of all the info in this trial and decided not to pursue it for a reason.
The bar for a civil trial is much lower.
By the way im not saying Conor didn't do it. Im just sayin with all the inconsistencies. It would be hard to prove that he did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is what you need for a criminal case.

Imo he's lying and was told to say he had sex with her. While yes it wouldn't be a good look for her if she did have sex with him. I don't really see a need to deny it either. I find it hard to believe she would of had sex with him right after his friend at the very least roughed her up pretty bad. It just doesn't make sense and while it's not a good look i do believe she's kissing him and affectionate because she's in a state and probably wanting to feel protected after what just happened. Obviously I can't speak for what went on in her head though.

Also. Conors dna was found apparently. But why wasn't his friends dna found if he had sex with her?

 

[krelianx]

Did you listen to the video?
James lawrence was brought in for interview by the gardai as a witness. He said he had sex with her twice after. Conor had left when they both went back up to the hotel room. She is seen on cctv. Kissing james on the cheek and biting his ear. When she was brought back in for interview after james said this. She said she can't remember so he must of raped me too. Thats why james is also a defendent in this trial.
The department of public prosecution was sent a file of all the info in this trial and decided not to pursue it for a reason.
The bar for a civil trial is much lower.
By the way im not saying Conor didn't do it. Im just sayin with all the inconsistencies. It would be hard to prove that he did it beyond a reasonable doubt. Which is what you need for a criminal case.

They have Conor's DNA. Do they have any evidence of Lawrence having sex with her? They have evidence of them being affectionate while she is extremely drunk. She denies having sex with him, not claims that he must have raped her. She claimed it was a fabricated story. She remembers being on the lift once with him and telling him that she couldn't believe he would let that happen. She never consented to having sex with him, nor is there any proof of that whatsoever.

There is no inconsistency.

 

[Mickf]

They have Conor's DNA. Do they have any evidence of Lawrence having sex with her? They have evidence of them being affectionate while she is extremely drunk. She denies having sex with him, not claims that he must have raped her. She claimed it was a fabricated story. She remembers being on the lift once with him and telling him that she couldn't believe he would let that happen. She never consented to having sex with him, nor is there any proof of that whatsoever.

There is no inconsistency.

You clearly haven't watched the video of the court proceedings today.
There is two rape defendants in this trial james lawrence and conor mcgregor. She is not claiming james is lying to protect Conor. Which would make a lot more sense. She probably thought there was dna evidence when the gardai brought her back in for a statement after james had said it and now she can't change her statement. She is saying she can't remember having sex with james but he said he did so he raped her.
The bit she clearly remembered in the lift saying to james "why would you let conor do this sort of stuff" wasn't in her first statement to gardai or her friend emer brennan who she spoke with the next day. It was added later.
After the alleged incident and around the time she was seen on cctv going back up to the room with james. she txted her boyfriend pretending she was in the goat pub with her female friends. She ordered food said she can't remember eating it.
Her female friend has made a statement saying nikita had got her to delete messages she had sent her relating to the night.
The other girl that was with her that night is not co-oberating any of her story.
Im not saying what she said happened didn't happen. But it wouldn't stand up in a criminal court hence no criminal trial.
I personally think there was some consenual sexual activity between her and conor. But then conor took it way too far. So it does meet the criteria for sexual assault and rape. But it would be so hard to get a conviction with the inconsistencies is why it wasn't prosecuted in a criminal court.

 

[Mickf]

I think the stuff with her ex-boyfriend complicated things because she couldn't admit maybe she did want to kiss or even give mcgregor a blow job. But he forced her to do more and other things she didn't want to do.

 

[CasualBot]

Dude behaves like an unhinged highschool kid transitioning to his first year of college.

There is zero doubt he takes consensual sex into extreme territory. Rape is rape.

The way conor just acts the fool and loses his shit, does drunken interviews, gets publicly chooched at clubs, pretends to be a family man while entering bathrooms with women, insults everyone, especially using social media on a whim (regularly) ...
Obvious to anyone with life experience.

He is a standard college frat bro.
Coked up. Drunk. Rapey. Arrogant. Delusional.
A tasteless, uncultured, corrupted human.

He should run for president of the united states.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

You clearly haven't watched the video of the court proceedings today.
There is two rape defendants in this trial james lawrence and conor mcgregor. She is not claiming james is lying to protect Conor. Which would make a lot more sense. She probably thought there was dna evidence when the gardai brought her back in for a statement after james had said it and now she can't change her statement. She is saying she can't remember having sex with james but he said he did so he raped her.
The bit she clearly remembered in the lift saying to james "why would you let conor do this sort of stuff" wasn't in her first statement to gardai or her friend emer brennan who she spoke with the next day. It was added later.
After the alleged incident and around the time she was seen on cctv going back up to the room with james. she txted her boyfriend pretending she was in the goat pub with her female friends. She ordered food said she can't remember eating it.
Her female friend has made a statement saying nikita had got her to delete messages she had sent her relating to the night.
The other girl that was with her that night is not co-oberating any of her story.
Im not saying what she said happened didn't happen. But it wouldn't stand up in a criminal court hence no criminal trial.
I personally think there was some consenual sexual activity between her and conor. But then conor took it way too far. So it does meet the criteria for sexual assault and rape. But it would be so hard to get a conviction with the inconsistencies is why it wasn't prosecuted in a criminal court.

I don't think that's such an issue. If her perspective is she doesn't remember having sex with Lawrence but if he did anything to her while she was passed out then he raped her.