Crime Maine shooting - 18 dead

[jeff7b9]

This guy was a good guy with a gun till he wasnt.

Was he?


** edit... "till he wasnt"
... sorry, yeah I agree there.


I haven't followed the story closely but I am pretty sure I read that he was recently locked up against his will in a mental institution and had made some death threats. At what point does a mentally ill man making death threats cease to be a "good guy with a gun" ?
I'm thinking maybe the death threats might be an indicator.

Seems like there were some signs that were ignored and I would guess some already existing gun control laws which were not enforced that played a role in allowing this event to occur.

It seems like the media angle on the story is to portray that ex military NRA member types are ticking time bombs and the leverage that fear for more gun control that won't work and won't be enforced just like the 20,000+ gun control laws already on the books that didn't stop this from happening.

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Once the laws that could have maybe prevented this are ignored, then I think the "good guy with a gun" angle becomes irrelevant.

I'm pretty sure making death threats is a crime. By the time he was shooting people in the bowling alley he was already a documented dangerous criminal.

 

[oldshadow]

This guy was a good guy with a gun till he wasnt.

So us every criminal before they commit the crime.

He stopped being a "good guy with a gun" when he was no longer mentally fit to have a gun.

 

[Nameless Ghoul]

He's dead...according to reports now.

 

[Dr Curtis Love]

Dead

 

[White Whale]

Reports say he killed himself in a forest.

 

[Barteh]

Kinda pathetic that every single event like this just ends up in a gun control debate.

 

[emefer]

Dead

Couldn’t have just killed himself without the mass murder.

 

[Dr Curtis Love]

Couldn’t have just killed himself without the mass murder.

Yeah, he should've started with this step.

 

[jk7707]

Kinda pathetic that every single event like this just ends up in a gun control debate.

Why?

 

[Barteh]

Why?

Some tragic event just happened and people just have this kneejerk reaction of always turning it into a political debate, it's pathetic.

 

[jk7707]

Some tragic event just happened and people just have this kneejerk reaction of always turning it into a political debate, it's pathetic.

It's a mass shooting, with a gun. Why is discussing ways to stop more from happening "pathetic"?

 

[Gas121]

Kinda pathetic that every single event like this just ends up in a gun control debate.

Yeah like the same ole debate that goes no where.

Just stick with the “Thoughts and Prayers” because nothing will change.

 

[Barteh]

It's a mass shooting, with a gun. Why is discussing ways to stop more from happening "pathetic"?

A shooting is usually with a gun. Why is it pathetic? Because it's an ongoing news story about a tragic event that's still unfolding (well I guess they just found him now). The victims aren't even buried yet and here you people are trying to use these victims as a political bargain chip. Why not just make a gun control debate thread instead of stinking up these kind of threads with that bullshit?

Yeah like the same ole debate that goes no where.

Just stick with the “Thoughts and Prayers” because nothing will change.

Yeah this is a good point as well. The debate itself is kind of pathetic because 90% of the participants seem to super biased and it never goes anywhere.

 

[emefer]

Some tragic event just happened and people just have this kneejerk reaction of always turning it into a political debate, it's pathetic.

Maybe people are tired of mass murder and lax gun laws that make it easy to obtain weapons that give people the ability to kill / injure 10-20-30 people in seconds.

 

[jk7707]

A shooting is usually with a gun. Why is it pathetic? Because it's an ongoing news story about a tragic event that's still unfolding (well I guess they just found him now). The victims aren't even buried yet and here you people are trying to use these victims as a political bargain chip. Why not just make a gun control debate thread instead of stinking up these kind of threads with that bullshit?

Ok, so how much time is the appropriate amount to wait before discussing how to prevent future events like this? Or is that discussion pathetic too?

 

[Barteh]

Maybe people are tired of mass murder and lax gun laws that make it easy to obtain weapons that give people the ability to kill / injure 10-20-30 people in seconds.

Just make mass shootings illegal then.

Ok, so how much time is the appropriate amount to wait before discussing how to prevent future events like this? Or is that discussion pathetic too?

Just discuss it in a debate thread instead of a current events news thread?

 

[DiddlyDoodly]

Found him dead in the woods with 2 gunshot wounds to the head.

 

[emefer]

Ok, so how much time is the appropriate amount to wait before discussing how to prevent future events like this? Or is that discussion pathetic too?

I don’t know but another mass murder will happen while it’s still “too soon” so.

 

[jk7707]

Just make mass shootings illegal then.



Just discuss it in a debate thread instead of a current events news thread?

There are specific details related to this particular shooting. If you don't like the debate too bad.

 

[Barteh]

There are specific details related to this particular shooting. If you don't like the debate too bad.

Yeah and it's hard to find these specific details related to this particular shooting people of people trying to turn it into a gun debate. That's my whole point.

I don’t know but another mass murder will happen while it’s still “too soon” so.

Looks like the point went complete over your head. Pathetic.