Looking Back At Adesanya's Overrated Record

Brunson is the MW Cerrone.

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TS, pull your head out of your ass.
 
How is Tavares a bad win ? He's been a respectable gatekeeper at MW for a long time and at the time was on a 4 fight win streak.
 
He's got a point. No need to be pissed. Izzy has a good record, but he had no business fighting silva at all. Instead it should have been jacare. But fuck it, the division is changing. It's not his fault that it's not bantamweight deep. I think thd longer he fights the more impressive it will be. Like if he beats marvin again,... Or some sort of fighter with takedown threat then yeah. It's a good record, but it's not whittaker good as ironic as that is, or jones good. Hate the fact that middleweight has no takedown artists.

I'm not pissed at all. That was a purely object response to absolute nonsense. Maybe just maybe their is a parallel universe where Mavin Vettori is a better win then Costa and or Romero but in this universe their is no way in hell that that is the case just look at his resume compared to theirs and it becomes glaringly obvious. Also, Israel has defeated, Costa, Romero, Marvin, and Whittaker is that not impressive? How many people have a record as good as Jones ? Is it not possible to have an impressive resume while at the same time not being on Jones level?
 
It's not insanity. It's hate and bitterness because they don't like Israel as a person

Yea at first I thought it was complete delusion and irrationally as I try and give posters the benefit of the doubt that they are not that emotionally invested in MMA fights. But what you said definitely seems to be a factor in A LOT of the posts defending that insane original post.
 
-Vettori vs. Idesayna: I highly recommend everyone go back and watch round 1 WITHOUT listening to biased DC (racist black fighter supporter) and dumbass Cruz (hes just trying to gas him out by taking punches to the face). Vettori landed more significant strikes. Izzy landed predominantly leg kicks, a few jabs, and a couple decent body kicks but Vettori landed shots everywhere and even controlled him briefly in the clinch (missed TDs i know). Round 2 was to Izzy. Round 3 was to Vettori
Correct Score: 29-28 Vettori
-Romero won the 5th and deciding round in Izzy fight, a poster went into excruciating details explaining it somewhere on his site with gifs.
-Fatgasleum has become a top 10 gatekeeper making that close win look pathetic in retrospect
-Costa is overrated shit, beat Romero in a close decision (Romero nearly always loses these close fights due to lack of volume and poor defense), outside romero he has beat no one in his division that could even be considered top 5
-Whittaker is definitely a solid win (Dumbass strategy by whittaker and dealing with depression/suicide thoughts)

Izzy actual record: 17-3
 
I feel like Costa and Romero made Israel seem better than he actually is. Last nights result didn't surprise me at all. I can count only 3 good wins in the UFC on his record.

Good wins
  • Robert Whittaker
  • Kelvin Gastelum
  • Marvin Vettori
Overrated wins
  • Costa (One dimensional, only notable wins are uriah hall, and old losing streak romero)
  • Romero (42 years old, out of prime, was/is on a losing streak)
  • Brunson (Gatekeeper, lost to old man Silva. Cerrone of the middleweight division)
Bad/unimpressive wins
  • Silva (old man)
  • Wilkinson (don't even know who that is)
  • Tavares

Vettori is not a good win.
Costa may be one dimensional, but he was better ranked than Vettori.
Brunson is a decent win.
Romero may be old, but he can finish most ranked MWs.
 
Just like Khabib and Usman Izzy suffers form hyperbole and premature GOAT bs from insufferable stupid fans.

But his accomplishments are stellar. TS wishes he could be this successful in life even at whatever shitty job he has.

20-1 mma, still undefeated MW champion


32-0 amateur kickboxing


75-5 pro kickboxing


5-1 boxing

WHAT A SCRUB. I love when guys more successful than 99% of their peers get shit on like this. What does that mean? Literally every fighter is overrated trash? OMG Izzy isn’t top 99.999999% he’s garb.
 
They are all fighters so they can absolutely be compared. And based on record and accomplishments Vettori is well below Romero and Costa and that is not arguable at all.
In your opinion, not mine.
 
Izzys kickboxing record/resume was mad overrated by geeks like Lawrence Kenshin. He had these idiots believing Izzy beating NZ HW cans in a tourney was some impressive feat.

I don’t agree with your whole post, but I do agree that Izzy’s kickboxing credentials are a bit embellished. He’s the best kickboxer in MMA right now, but he doesn’t have as good a perigee as Overeem or Cro Cop when it comes to wins.
 
Izzys kickboxing record/resume was mad overrated by geeks like Lawrence Kenshin. He had these idiots believing Izzy beating NZ HW cans in a tourney was some impressive feat. Never mind Izzy losing to the top MW kickboxers he fought most of his wins were cans yet his fans take solace in him getting "robbed" against WIlnis and Pereira when he flatout lost to bothj
It may not be impressive, but good enough to become a UFC champion. I think it says more about the UFC than the "NZ HW cans."

Dana shot himself in the foot by letting Gegard go. I believe Izzy vs Gegard would at least be a tossup.
 
Nice of you to avoid RDA and Barboza.

What are Izzy's best wins? Rob, fat boy Gastulum, and a bunch of old men and cans? Scraped by some of those wins too.
Rob, and Vettori are pretty good wins. Brunson was also a good test.
 
Costa losing to Robby doesn't invalidate how good of a win he is and how Izzy beat him. It just means Robby is that good, which elevates him even more and makes the Izzy win look even greater. I'm not looking to shit on any of these guys at all. This is a ridiculously tough sport.

Any of these guys could lose to each other on any given night and at 185, Izzy racked up win after win there. Izzy has shown great TDD at 185. Jan is much bigger than him and that size helped with the takedowns. It still isn't easy to Izzy on the ground in his weight class.
I mean IMO I don’t see Rob beating Izzy any time soon. Because Rob doesn’t have the size or reach of Jan and though he has good wrestling for an Aussie, I don’t know if he can bully Izzy around like Jan could.
 
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