Israel Adesanya's resume has aged extremely poorly

[Doctor Grudge]

Well he's a fighter from the 10s, and it's 2025 - so yeah..I would assume they all aged poorly as they all have literally aged past their prime.

 

[Xoleth]

His wins are better than ever.
Pereira was a stud and the bogeyman of the higher weightclass only after Adesanya KO'd him.
Costa was a destroyer who walked down everyone before he fought Adesanya. Costa was never the same after being KO'd by him.
He beat most of the other fighters in their prime and even though most of them are still in the UFC, they're not the same.

Are you people on drugs? I mean... the bad drugs...

Costa was a destroyer?

He had 5 wins in UFC before Izzy.
2 cans, who were cut easily by UFC
Hendricks, I mean the corpse of Hendricks
Uriah Hall, who was a decent fighter, but that's it
old Yoel - no comment here, although it was a very close fight

Other than that, he beat Old Luke, who was unranked, and Kopylov, who is a good striker, but has no top 15 wins

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

You just decided dan Henderson, mach sakurai, Vitor Belfort, and forest griffin werent top ten.

Even Brunson was top ten when Anderson beat him... well robbed him but still...

You can't just lie lol izzy is great but Andersons resume is much better

I didn’t create this list. So I didn’t decide anything.

These were their rankings when they fought Anderson and Izzy respectively

 

[surgeyou1]

It really isn't but people just say it is for some reason. Most guys in MMA are utterly done by their mid thirties too. Look at how everyone shit on Fedor for losing at like 33, then when JDS and Cain hit their mid thirties they went on these terrible slumps and never looked good again.

The only argument I've ever seen that MMA fighters somehow age differently, is the UFC hw division being filled with a bunch of old guys. But all of those old guys were better in their prime years, and a bunch of guys pushing 40 still being ranked is just an indictment of the hw division as a whole. Not proof that MMA hws are somehow in their prime untill 40 just because they're competing until then.

Ilia and JDM are the only champs in their 20s across both men and women.

As long as you don't accumulate too much damage and stay disciplined in your training, you should only get better by your mid 30s

Guys used to age worse because they treated their body like shit and would constantly have wars in the gym. This generation is a bit smarter when it comes to longevity and treating themselves like professional athletes.

 

[ChangeIsComing]

With Pereira going on the run he did afterwards, I thought it aged fine.

Definitely been a changing of the guard, including Izzy now out. But all his opponents were legitimate when he faced them.

Agreed, I dislike Izzy's persona but as a fighter he took on all comers, never avoided anyone and all those guys he fought as champ were are the top then...maybe not now but every single one of them deserved the shot.

 

[Mike]

Ilia and JDM are the only champs in their 20s across both men and women.

As long as you don't accumulate too much damage and stay disciplined in your training, you should only get better by your mid 30s

Guys used to age worse because they treated their body like shit and would constantly have wars in the gym. This generation is a bit smarter when it comes to longevity and treating themselves like professional athletes.

You might still be improving your skill set, and elite fighters definitely are. But you're pure physical athleticism is definitely declining by your thirties.

We've seen evidence of this across all of sports, including a lot of sports that don't have physical damage as a key component. There's a reason you don't see a lot of 35+ olympians, and the stats for 35+ fighters in title fights are abysmal.

 

[pankrat]

I didn’t create this list. So I didn’t decide anything.

These were their rankings when they fought Anderson and Izzy respectively

You are a FightMatrix geek pretending you know about the sport in a online forum. Pretty pathetic

 

[pankrat]

You just decided dan Henderson, mach sakurai, Vitor Belfort, and forest griffin werent top ten.

Even Brunson was top ten when Anderson beat him... well robbed him but still...

You can't just lie lol izzy is great but Andersons resume is much better

Of course all those names were top ranked wins for Anderson.

But there are many FightMatrix geeks around these boards

 

[Alpha_T83]

This happens to almost every fighter. People trash GSP's resume. People trash DJ's resume.

I'm of the opinion that, on average, every champion has roughly the same level of competition, given enough fights.

Right now Ilia Topuria is given a lot of credit for beating Volk, Holloway, and Oliveira in his first 3 title fights. But all it will take is those 3 fighters to go on losing streaks and end their careers badly, and people will be looking back saying "Topuria's title wins are weak".

 

[Deceasedxo]

white belt gonna white belt

 

[Here's Johnny!]

I didn’t create this list. So I didn’t decide anything.

These were their rankings when they fought Anderson and Izzy respectively

Umm then you have a bad source you think Forrest Griffin? 1 fight removed from the light heavyweight title was not top ten? You think Dan Henderson the Pride 185 lb champion was not ranked? Or are you trying to use some nuance and say ranked at MW only.... specifically UFC 185 ranked? Vitor was ranked but... he just knocked out Rich Franklin at 195 so he wasn't ranked... Hendo was ranked p4p at the time... anyways... you can lie to yourself if you want

 

[Dreyga Hates You Sherbums]

You are a FightMatrix geek pretending you know about the sport in a online forum. Pretty pathetic

Umm then you have a bad source you think Forrest Griffin? 1 fight removed from the light heavyweight title was not top ten? You think Dan Henderson the Pride 185 lb champion was not ranked? Or are you trying to use some nuance and say ranked at MW only.... specifically UFC 185 ranked? Vitor was ranked but... he just knocked out Rich Franklin at 195 so he wasn't ranked... Hendo was ranked p4p at the time... anyways... you can lie to yourself if you want

I got the list from here

Thread 'UFC/Pride Middleweight Champions with least-to-most Top 10 ranked wins at Middleweight.'

Nov 23, 2020

The Flyweight version is here.
The Bantamweight version is here.
The Featherweight version is here.
The Lightweight version is here.
The Welterweight version is here.
The Light Heavyweight version is here.
The Heavyweight version is here.
Champions with most wins in each division here.
The Multi-Division version is here.

Rankings are based on FightMatrix.

Dave Menne...​

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[deanambrose]

There is no such thing as resume age. You evaluate the fighter at this point of time that he faces you.

 

[AmalgamOpus]

They usually do when you don't put the careers of their opponents into proper context.

 

[jsbx45]

Izzy is a weirdo but his resume is solid AF. He took on - no - sought out, the biggest challenges available. Yoel was the scariest guy in the UFC and Izzy wanted that challenge. It was a boring fight, but a really ballsy move at the time. His fight with Kelvin is one of the best fights of all time. Hell, I'm not even a fan of the guy, you're just kinda off with this one TS.

 

[pankrat]

I got the list from here

Thread 'UFC/Pride Middleweight Champions with least-to-most Top 10 ranked wins at Middleweight.'

Nov 23, 2020

The Flyweight version is here.
The Bantamweight version is here.
The Featherweight version is here.
The Lightweight version is here.
The Welterweight version is here.
The Light Heavyweight version is here.
The Heavyweight version is here.
Champions with most wins in each division here.
The Multi-Division version is here.

Rankings are based on FightMatrix.

Dave Menne...​

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• Forum: UFC Discussion

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We know. Its the classic source for guys who come here pretending they have a clue.

 

[ExitLUPin]

Alex is a career MW and no one has knocked him out except Izzy. Adesanya's win aged very well. Particularly knowing that Alex is much bigger than him and could easyly fight at HW.

You mention Alex could fight @ HW but not the other side of the coin where his chin was far worse @ MW. The power in his punches weren't the same either. Bruno Silva ate them for 15 minutes. That wouldn't happen at 205. He also lost a round to both Bruno and even fucking Andreas Michailidis of all people. His strength wasn't the same with the weight cut it was much easier to control him at 185 than it is at 205.

Alex only has 3 more fights at MW and LHW Alex was a more powerful, more durable, stronger and healthier fighter.

i don't know why people hate on Adesanya's fighting. he was 1 of the most active champions ever and literally ASKED for the hardest matchups. the only reason Pereira is Pereira in MMA is because Adesanya wanted that fight even though he was down in their rivalry. Adesanya ASKED for Romero when Romero was the boogeyman of the division. he fought Costa when Costa looked like The Terminator. say what you want about his antics outside of the ring, but in the ring he was one of the best champions the UFC ever had in the modern era.

Of course the guy DOWN in the rivalry would want another shot. We just saw Max ask for and got granted a 3rd fight with Dustin.

Izzy did not want Alex in MMA lol. Him and his team kept complaining about UFC fast tracking Alex with matchups. You can say UFC gave Alex stylistic matchups but that wasn't Izzy telling them too. And he had no choice but to fight Alex after he KOd Sean. That was a title eliminator number 1 contender fight. You can say timing worked perfectly for Alex but it wasn't an undeserved shot at all. The rankings at the time were

Izzy
Rob
Cannonier
Marvin
Alex
Brunson
Costa
Sean
Jack
Till
Muniz
Kelvin
Imavov
Dricus
Tavares
Curtis

Izzy had already cleaned out half the rankings and beat Rob and Marvin twice. Just beat Jared. Had finished Costa and and Brunson before. Sean just got KOd by Alex which again was a title eliminator. It would have been Izzy Sean if Sean had won. But Alex won and got his shot. Izzy didn't call for it that was the only matchup that made sense next. Who else were they gonna book Izzy's next fight for when he beat #2, #3, #4, #6, #7? Alex was the highest ranked fighter he didn't beat, 2nd highest was Sean who Alex just KOd. They weren't gonna make Izzy VS Jack lol. Till was on a losing streak and who else was there? Muniz? lol

It's true he didn't have to fight Yoel but Yoel was already 44 and been in 2 B2B wars where he suffered a serious injury he needed surgery for in the Rob rematch. Broken orbital, the Costa performance was really impressive for Costa at the time but in retrospect Yoel was on the downslide. He's only beaten shot fighters since in post ACL Thiago and retired Melvin Manhoef. Izzy arguably lost that fight too, started disengaging after Yoel cracked him round 1 and barely anything happened.

 

[Mind Mine]

This happens to almost every fighter. People trash GSP's resume. People trash DJ's resume.

I'm of the opinion that, on average, every champion has roughly the same level of competition, given enough fights.

Right now Ilia Topuria is given a lot of credit for beating Volk, Holloway, and Oliveira in his first 3 title fights. But all it will take is those 3 fighters to go on losing streaks and end their careers badly, and people will be looking back saying "Topuria's title wins are weak".

GSP’s resume absolutely did not age well but you have strong points

 

[Dorkman]

I think his resume is fine. He beat most of the guys available for his era. Wouldn't mind a costa rematch to be honest. Izzy needs a get back on track fight, and costa needs a bigger exposure fight after a revitalizing performance. Without the stress of a belt on the line might see a better showing out of costa this time around.

 

[arcadeperfect]

Weidman and Rockhold held a title before they went on their losing streaks, almost every guy Izzy beat went on to do nothing and had never done much before losing to him either, most of his wins like Vettori were guys that looked like they could be champs but have proven to be just run of the mill.

Vettori never looked great at all.