Looking Back At Adesanya's Overrated Record

GlobalistMexican said:
I feel like Costa and Romero made Israel seem better than he actually is. Last nights result didn't surprise me at all. I can count only 3 good wins in the UFC on his record.

Good wins
  • Robert Whittaker
  • Kelvin Gastelum
  • Marvin Vettori
Overrated wins
  • Costa (One dimensional, only notable wins are uriah hall, and old losing streak romero)
  • Romero (42 years old, out of prime, was/is on a losing streak)
  • Brunson (Gatekeeper, lost to old man Silva. Cerrone of the middleweight division)
Bad/unimpressive wins
  • Silva (old man)
  • Wilkinson (don't even know who that is)
  • Tavares
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That's for you, TS. Not Izzy.
 
Cant believe people are forgetting Izzy is 1-1 vs Romero technically
 
GlobalistMexican said:
I feel like Costa and Romero made Israel seem better than he actually is. Last nights result didn't surprise me at all. I can count only 3 good wins in the UFC on his record.

Good wins
  • Robert Whittaker
  • Kelvin Gastelum
  • Marvin Vettori
Overrated wins
  • Costa (One dimensional, only notable wins are uriah hall, and old losing streak romero)
  • Romero (42 years old, out of prime, was/is on a losing streak)
  • Brunson (Gatekeeper, lost to old man Silva. Cerrone of the middleweight division)
Bad/unimpressive wins
  • Silva (old man)
  • Wilkinson (don't even know who that is)
  • Tavares
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You're a fucking moron. Hope that helps.
 
Substance Abuse said:
Like clockwork, the second someone loses, they're not that good. The second their top wins start to lose, their wins were never any good. It's so easy to pick apart wins outside of context, shit on records, opposition and do anything you can to break down a man's resume to make sense of why he lost a fight you thought he should have won.

You can do this with everyone after the fact. Maybe it's just a ridiculously difficult sport to maintain dominance in and the amount of disciplines makes it even more cumbersome. When someone is 20-0 and fights the top guys, they're going to eventually lose. MMA isn't based off of one discipline. Smarten up.

You could add Vettori to that list before he beat Jack. Again, context matters. This thread sucks.
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I agree somewhat, but there are multiple Izzy threads like this from before yesterday. It's not untrue that Izzy hasn't fought that many great fighters yet. That doesn't mean he is bad at all. He is a great striker, but Jan showed he isn't as elite as some may have thought.
 
I'm sensing Trump levels of derangement syndrome over Izzy losing, and losing in an honorable way after moving up in weight and being 20-30lbs lighter on fight night against the LHW CHAMP who opted to take him down and sit on him. Give credit where its due, its like your running out of reasons to hate on him and are in some kinda mid life crisis.
 
TR1 said:
No he doesn't, and Khabib is 10x more dominant than Izzy and his bum tier grappling.
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His best wins are Gaethje, Poirier and Conor and a trail of cans before that. He got his belt beating a real estate agent. lool
 
Kelvin is a fat WW whos beaten up on washed up MWs and Ian Heinisch. Hes not a very good win. And Izzy went life or death with him.

Izzy nearly lost to Vettori whos a lot better now too and wasnt ranked then.

Whittaker is an amazing win.

Costa is mad overrated and if Whittaker beats the brakes off him like he should he'll look even worse. Brunson is decent.

Izzys kickboxing record/resume was mad overrated by geeks like Lawrence Kenshin. He had these idiots believing Izzy beating NZ HW cans in a tourney was some impressive feat. Never mind Izzy losing to the top MW kickboxers he fought most of his wins were cans yet his fans take solace in him getting "robbed" against WIlnis and Pereira when he flatout lost to bothj
 
Straatblaffer said:
I agree somewhat, but there are multiple Izzy threads like this from before yesterday. It's not untrue that Izzy hasn't fought that many great fighters yet. That doesn't mean he is bad at all. He is a great striker, but Jan showed he isn't as elite as some may have thought.
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There's a lot more about that loss than just a 'L' on a record. Bobby wasn't a great fighter? Bobby didn't have great wins and still isn't racking up top five victories? Izzy is an elite striker. It's MMA. There's a lot going on in these fights.
 
Breaducce said:
It's amazing that like clock right after a championship level fighter loses, their is always someone stupid enough to start minimizing their fight resume in an attempt to sound smart. How the hell is Marvin Vettori a better win then Costa and Romero. That is twilight zone level insanity...
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Vettori arguably won.
 
Volador said:
Fixed:

Good wins
  • -
Overrated wins
  • -
Bad/unimpressive wins
  • Silva (old man)
  • Wilkinson (don't even know who that is)
  • Tavares
  • Vettori (split decision, not even sure if he won or not, got wrestled by an Italian)
  • Romero (40 years old, losing streak, nothing happened in the fight, should be a draw)
  • Gastelum (went life and death with fat WW and almost loses)
  • Brunson (career gatekeeper, panic wrestler)
  • Costa (only beat old guys, almost loses to Uriah Hall, gassed roided out freak)
  • Whittaker (lost to old man Romero, lifelong welterweight, is Australian)
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costa(robbed and was put in a weel chait by old man Romero)
 
BEATDOWNS said:
His best wins are Gaethje, Poirier and Conor and a trail of cans before that. He got his belt beating a real estate agent. lool
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Nice of you to avoid RDA and Barboza.

What are Izzy's best wins? Rob, fat boy Gastulum, and a bunch of old men and cans? Scraped by some of those wins too.
 
GlobalistMexican said:
Romero has lost 4 out of his last 5. Costa hasn't beaten anybody notable besides Hall and Romero.
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So who has Vettori beaten that is better then the two Costa Wins you just named, and Romero's current losing streak does not over shadow the fact that his resume is miles better then Vettori's which is the reason Romero is on a losing streak. Don't get it yet? Compare the level of fighters Romero and Vettori have fought in their last 4 fights..... its not even a comparison.
 
So right when an undefeated fighter loses he all of a sudden sucks lol?
 
Substance Abuse said:
There's a lot more about that loss than just a 'L' on a record. Bobby wasn't a great fighter? Bobby didn't have great wins and still isn't racking up top five victories? Izzy is an elite striker. It's MMA. There's a lot going on in these fights.
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Yeah, I don't disagree he is great at striking and I respect him for trying to fight Jan. I personally (maybe it's my bias) feel Izzy is overhyped, what makes me a bit cautious when looking at his resume. He has good wins, but not that much. If Whittaker beats Costa (not unlikely), Izzy pretty much only has a win against Robert that really is a legacy win.

For me (just an opinion), Izzy is a good fighter, but will be destroyed by good wrestlers. Looking at other champs, they are all more well rounded. Figueredo, Jan/Sterling, Volk, Usman, Stipe and Jan are all able to beat both great wrestlers as strikers. Izzy isn't really on that allround level for me
 
Straatblaffer said:
Yeah, I don't disagree he is great at striking and I respect him for trying to fight Jan. I personally (maybe it's my bias) feel Izzy is overhyped, what makes me a bit cautious when looking at his resume. He has good wins, but not that much. If Whittaker beats Costa (not unlikely), Izzy pretty much only has a win against Robert that really is a legacy win.

For me (just an opinion), Izzy is a good fighter, but will be destroyed by good wrestlers. Looking at other champs, they are all more well rounded. Figueredo, Jan/Sterling, Volk, Usman, Stipe and Jan are all able to beat both great wrestlers as strikers. Izzy isn't really on that allround level for me
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Costa losing to Robby doesn't invalidate how good of a win he is and how Izzy beat him. It just means Robby is that good, which elevates him even more and makes the Izzy win look even greater. I'm not looking to shit on any of these guys at all. This is a ridiculously tough sport.

Any of these guys could lose to each other on any given night and at 185, Izzy racked up win after win there. Izzy has shown great TDD at 185. Jan is much bigger than him and that size helped with the takedowns. It still isn't easy to Izzy on the ground in his weight class.
 
1 loss in this sport and the worst fanbase in sports turns on you and suddenly you never were good, never beat anyone good and you're basically Jake Paul.

But guess this sport really doesnt deserve a high class of fans, its cage fighting so this is what we get.
 
Any win over Romero is impressive, awful fight tho and Izzy was terrified

Costa was off the roids, Izzy was on

Whitaker never the same after Romero Romero & for reasons unknown fought like a bar room brawler
 
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