Lets be honest - Conor has poor defence

[myopinions]

Nah. He'd get kicked in the head trying to shoulder roll in to hug him. You can use your legs in MMA. Especially with zero take down threat. And who exactly worth mentioning has Mayweather knocked out?

I know you meant something different but I just don't like the boxing version of lay and pray that is Floyd Mayweather, Jr.

So we keep being told. But lets not pretend the UFC is full of a bunch of Jon Jones'. Most of the guys are as 1-dimensional as Floyd & couldnt kick him in the head if their life depended on it.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

So we keep being told. But lets not pretend the UFC is full of a bunch of Jon Jones'. Most of the guys are as 1-dimensional as Floyd & couldnt kick him in the head if their life depended on it.

Lol stop. There are very very few one dimensional fighters.


Plus, Floyd is a midget. It's not hard to get a foot up to his head. Not to mention the takedown aspect. Conor's limited groundwork (compared to most mma fighters) would make Floyd look like a retarded baby on the mat.

 

[Bmartin89]

Poor ground game i agree

 

[ocfightfan]

He used to be better defensively. He was more of a counter puncher and didn't get hit that much. It seems that he's fallen in love with his own power and become more of a puncher and so far no one has really hurt him on the feet.

Really the greatest amount of damage he's taken was in the Mendes fight where Chad popped him a couple of time and cut his brow. But he didn't get wobbled in that fight at all.

 

[Naos]

He's rolling with the punches, not getting hit cleanly.

 

[BWC]

Do you laugh at Jack Slack aswell then?....Since he's probably the most knowledgeable journalist and fight analyst in terms of striking and seems to think Conor is technically brilliant.

I don't think he's ever called Conor "brilliant", just that he was pretty good. Anyone that calls Conor "technically brilliant" this stage of his career is just a fanboy. He's a puncher now with zero head movement. He's regressed quite a bit actually. His offensive boxing is impressive I'll give him that..

 

[Bulletproof Acc]

Damn the regular Conor fanboys decided not to show up for this thread.

 

[myopinions]

Lol stop. There are very very few one dimensional fighters.


Plus, Floyd is a midget. It's not hard to get a foot up to his head. Not to mention the takedown aspect. Conor's limited groundwork (compared to most mma fighters) would make Floyd look like a retarded baby on the mat.

Again, so we keep being told. So many assumptions. Why did a retired Ray Mercer KO Tim Sylvia then? If MMA has taught us anything, its how very unpredictable a fight can be.

Mayweather would undoubtedly floor some UFC fighters the first time they got close. Their boxing would be child-like compared to his. Other times, he would also undoubtedly get taken down & pounded.

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

Again, so we keep being told. So many assumptions. Why did a retired Ray Mercer KO Tim Sylvia then? If MMA has taught us anything, its how very unpredictable a fight can be.

Mayweather would undoubtedly floor some UFC fighters the first time they got close. Their boxing would be child-like compared to his. Other times, he would also undoubtedly get taken down & pounded.

Lol, Mayweather doesn't floor people. It's been a long time since he's knocked down someone.

Please, list any one dimensional fighters. I'll wait.

 

[jeff7b9]

Proof that sherdoggers are clueless.

The video embedded in this post should be mandatory viewing (honestly it probably should be stickied and there should be a quiz on it before even being allowed to post... but anyway)



If conor's defense is so bad he must have been hurt many times, right?

Oh... You mean since he got HIT... In a UFC fight against top level fighters, but not hurt, he must have poor defense, right?

Because good strikers literally don't get hit at all?

Morons.

Everyone gets hit.

You just don't understand what you are watching. Conor uses his reach to make opponents lunge and then makes them pay for it. He rolls well, judges distance very well, keeps his head off the center line (probably the #1 most underrated aspect of striking defense period) mixes his strikes and angles well, and has shown he has no problem taking the shots his opponents have been able to land.

Counter strikers, and most KO artists in general thrive when they get exchanges which allow them to hurt their opponents. This requires a calculated risk of mixing it up in the pocket.

Conor is not a perfect fighter, nor is anyone, but his skills have served him quite well this far. He also seems to be improving so it will be up to him to tighten up a few aspects that will be important if he wants to stay on top.

 

[Jorge Luis Borges]

He needs some tattoo defense.

 

[JKS]

His striking defense is good in some ways how he moves out of range, but he does get tagged in the exchanges where he's got his feet planted and doesnt move his head.

 

[BASSER911414]

He relies too much on his chin. One day its gonna cost him.

 

[Masterful]

Aldo got dropped by Mendes. He must be relying too much on his chin too.

 

[myopinions]

Lol, Mayweather doesn't floor people. It's been a long time since he's knocked down someone.

Please, list any one dimensional fighters. I'll wait.

The majoirty. Thats my point. Honestly, how many dimensions does someone like Chad Mendes have? He'd be a pure wrestler if he fought Floyd because his striking would be so slow & sloppy in comparison. JDS was very 1-dimensional, save for his mythical ground game that we only ever heard about.

& Mayweather would easily floor people if he were only wearing UFC's lightly padded gloves.

Our definitions of a dimension differ, thats the problem. Just because someone can throw a weak ass kick to the leg doesn't mean they're a multi-dimensional fighter. This idea that everyone throws kicks like Aldo is a myth, often brought up in boxing VS MMA comparisons.

Also, this idea that a guy who's 'well-rounded' (but doesnt truly excel at anything) will always beat a guy who's one-dimensional, but supreme at it (ie. boxing) has been proven to be bollocks.

 

[zacholistic]

He needs some tattoo defense.

Made my day

 

[xP]

his punching defense being weak is way overrated. He comes forward and throws. A pressure fighter and counter puncher that doesn't just wait on his opponent. You're going to eat a shot or two. It's not like these other MMA guys are Pernell Whitaker.

His defense is pretty good, better than most really. Aldo got tagged by Mendes too, and actually got hurt and Aldo has good head movement and footwork and is one of the best stand up fighters in the sport.

His biggest weakness is his guard, I think.

 

[BonesNose**]

I don't think he's ever called Conor "brilliant", just that he was pretty good. Anyone that calls Conor "technically brilliant" this stage of his career is just a fanboy. He's a puncher now with zero head movement. He's regressed quite a bit actually. His offensive boxing is impressive I'll give him that..

His offensive boxing skill is brilliant, he can throw some serious long punches against midgets (as he calls them).

 

[BWC]

Proof that sherdoggers are clueless.

The video embedded in this post should be mandatory viewing (honestly it probably should be stickied and there should be a quiz on it before even being allowed to post... but anyway)



If conor's defense is so bad he must have been hurt many times, right?

Oh... You mean since he got HIT... In a UFC fight against top level fighters, but not hurt, he must have poor defense, right?

Because good strikers literally don't get hit at all?

Morons.

Everyone gets hit.

You just don't understand what you are watching. Conor uses his reach to make opponents lunge and then makes them pay for it. He rolls well, judges distance very well, keeps his head off the center line (probably the #1 most underrated aspect of striking defense period) mixes his strikes and angles well, and has shown he has no problem taking the shots his opponents have been able to land.

Counter strikers, and most KO artists in general thrive when they get exchanges which allow them to hurt their opponents. This requires a calculated risk of mixing it up in the pocket.

Conor is not a perfect fighter, nor is anyone, but his skills have served him quite well this far. He also seems to be improving so it will be up to him to tighten up a few aspects that will be important if he wants to stay on top.

Actually he doesn't keep his head off centerline at all. He stands straight up and eats it..

 

[I WILL CUT YOU]

The majoirty. Thats my point. Honestly, how many dimensions does someone like Chad Mendes have? He'd be a pure wrestler if he fought Floyd because his striking would be so slow & sloppy in comparison. JDS was very 1-dimensional, save for his mythical ground game that we only ever heard about.

& Mayweather would easily floor people if he were only wearing UFC's lightly padded gloves.

Our definitions of a dimension differ, thats the problem. Just because someone can throw a weak ass kick to the leg doesn't mean they're a multi-dimensional fighter. This idea that everyone throws kicks like Aldo is a myth, often brought up in boxing VS MMA comparisons.

Also, this idea that a guy who's 'well-rounded' (but doesnt truly excel at anything) will always beat a guy who's one-dimensional, but supreme at it (ie. boxing) has been proven to be bollocks.

Mendes has nasty power, of course Floyd is a better boxer, just as Mendes is a way better wrestler. So powerful punches with effective striking and god-tier wrestling is one dimensional?

Junior has beastly boxing and legit defensive grappling. That's two things he's great at.

Tonwy vs the well-rounded (but not elite anywhere) Couture is a prime example. If your grappling is too weak an average grappler can easily take advantage. Now, Randy is a good wrestler but only average as a submission grappler yet he had no problems taking down, guard passing, and submitting Toney.

You'll mention Mercer vs Sylvia again, but Tim has no grappling. He uses a long jab to set up his striking, playing right into Mercer's strength.

You also fail to differentiate between a wrestleboxer and a Muay Thai bjj fighter. Both excel against a pure boxer.


Floyd, and boxers in general, are the most one dimensional fighters you will ever find. Sit down, kid.