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Khamzat is a proven front runner that will wilt after the first round vs DDP with Round by Round prediction

reasons for leaning ddp:
whittaker vs chimaev was kind of a fluke win. ddp is huge for the weight class. well rounded. better cardio.

reasons for leaning chimaev:
ddp has no experience with caucus style fast paced grappling and has been chinned before.
 
I actually think Khamzat likely gets a takedown in the first round. DDP doesn’t have exceptionally takedown defense and we all know Khamzat is like a bat out of hell early.

It’s after that which is intriguing to me because DDP is a stocky brute that probably won’t get strangled early. He’s a strong tough guy with solid championship round experience at this point, while Khamzat on the other hand is known to fade a bit if someone can survive his onslaught.

I’m excited to see what happens.
 
Scott Steiner was a nut and his promos made no sense but were entertaining as fuck. Old pro wrestling was great. It's the shits now unfortunately
He was a D1 All-American. His pro wrestling brother was also a D1 wrestler along with Steve "Dr. Death" Williams. The craziest wrassler back then was probably "Mad Dog" Buzz Sawyer. He didn't go to college but was a standout wrestler in high school who lost in the nationals to Dan Severn back in the 70s.
 
I'm absolutely not putting all my hope in a first round finish, even though I wouldn't be surprised if it happened.

On the contrary, I'm consistently arguing that people underrate Khamzat in the later rounds. You should probably rewatch the Burns and Usman fights. He took down and controlled Usman in rounds 2 and 3 as well.
There's a reason hr won the decision in both of those fights.

He also has a decent jab, some good kicks, and KO-power, which mixed with the takedown threat makes him dangerous.

Khamzat without a takedown walked down #2 WW in his 11th pro fight and won the 3rd round and the fight.

Wrestling is more than strength. If the gap in technique is wide the stronger guy will still be made to look foolish.
Bro what are you on about Usman took a short notice fight off the couch and burns is tiny. Other than the freak tooth breaking thing which was pretty scary I have seen zilch from him that makes me pick him against DDP
 
Everybody starts saying this same exact thing about Khamzat before any of his fights. Then he just keeps winning every fight.

What's going to be interesting is that fighters seldom take the fight to DDP. But Khamzat is going to do just that.
 
Khamzat has ragdolled way better wrestlers than DDP in round 1 and DDP got controlled by an aging Brunson not too long ago, so to say Khamzat won’t take him down is just silly.
 
Bro what are you on about Usman took a short notice fight off the couch and burns is tiny. Other than the freak tooth breaking thing which was pretty scary I have seen zilch from him that makes me pick him against DDP
If this is your opinion on him beating 2 ex-champs and 1 title challenger, as a young and inexperienced fighter, it's hopeless to continue this discussion.

When Khamzat was coming up many people thought Usman and Burns were nightmare matchups for him. Whittaker as well. After he beat them, the goalposts change. "Tiny" Burns was about 190 lbs in the beginning of fight week and up to that point had only lost to the champ at WW, who himself got knocked down vs him. With this kind of logic, 99-100% of wins can get discredited.

Imagine if we would pick apart DDPs UFC-fights and judge him with a similar bias.

Fighters also improve, and learn with experience.

The trajectory and performances of both fighters indicate that Khamzat has the higher potential. He has also taken way less damage.
 
If this is your opinion on him beating 2 ex-champs and 1 title challenger, as a young and inexperienced fighter, it's hopeless to continue this discussion.

When Khamzat was coming up many people thought Usman and Burns were nightmare matchups for him. Whittaker as well. After he beat them, the goalposts change. "Tiny" Burns was about 190 lbs in the beginning of fight week and up to that point had only lost to the champ at WW, who himself got knocked down vs him. With this kind of logic, 99-100% of wins can get discredited.

Imagine if we would pick apart DDPs UFC-fights and judge him with a similar bias.

Fighters also improve, and learn with experience.

The trajectory and performances of both fighters indicate that Khamzat has the higher potential. He has also taken way less damage.
Dude you type too much of nothing and it’s a ton of fluff. Two ex-champs? Whitaker who I said was a good win yet a bit of a fluke and a smaller Usman with one week notice he arguably lost. You are literally coming at me chatting to me about what many others thought before those fights like I’m fucking one of them and it’s quite stupid. I judge striking DDP is better. I judge determination and both have it but Khamzat has cane close to loss two times against people I think DDP beats. I judge wrestling and Khamzat is better but wilts. I even said he will lose by the 4th and its still not good enough. You sound crazy saying he takes way less damage when he hasn’t had 5 fights against contenders and almost lost to two wrestlers. Like are you serious? There is no point as you are being silly. He has actually done so little you keep rewording your same point I already addressed like you are making a stronger point and it just isnt AT ALL
 
Everybody starts saying this same exact thing about Khamzat before any of his fights. Then he just keeps winning every fight.

What's going to be interesting is that fighters seldom take the fight to DDP. But Khamzat is going to do just that.
The dude broke Whittaker's face and its like "oh well it was a pre existing injury, anyone can do that! he had Khamzat right where he wanted him!"
 
Not popular opinion - But I see DDP gasses before Khamzat, sound a bit crazy, but his pace is amazing and a lot of offence, it will tire out both guys.
 
Dude you type too much of nothing and it’s a ton of fluff. Two ex-champs? Whitaker who I said was a good win yet a bit of a fluke and a smaller Usman with one week notice he arguably lost. You are literally coming at me chatting to me about what many others thought before those fights like I’m fucking one of them and it’s quite stupid. I judge striking DDP is better. I judge determination and both have it but Khamzat has cane close to loss two times against people I think DDP beats. I judge wrestling and Khamzat is better but wilts. I even said he will lose by the 4th and its still not good enough. You sound crazy saying he takes way less damage when he hasn’t had 5 fights against contenders and almost lost to two wrestlers. Like are you serious? There is no point as you are being silly. He has actually done so little you keep rewording your same point I already addressed like you are making a stronger point and it just isnt AT ALL
Do you think Khamzat would lose a round to Darren Till or Brunson? Get taken down by them?
Dude you type too much of nothing and it’s a ton of fluff. Two ex-champs? Whitaker who I said was a good win yet a bit of a fluke and a smaller Usman with one week notice he arguably lost. You are literally coming at me chatting to me about what many others thought before those fights like I’m fucking one of them and it’s quite stupid. I judge striking DDP is better. I judge determination and both have it but Khamzat has cane close to loss two times against people I think DDP beats. I judge wrestling and Khamzat is better but wilts. I even said he will lose by the 4th and its still not good enough. You sound crazy saying he takes way less damage when he hasn’t had 5 fights against contenders and almost lost to two wrestlers. Like are you serious? There is no point as you are being silly. He has actually done so little you keep rewording your same point I already addressed like you are making a stronger point and it just isnt AT ALL
Who could he have beaten instead of Burns and Usman to get your approval at the time? Whittaker, right? But then you call him dominating Whittaker in a way no one did before a "bit of a fluke".

Also, "almost lost". Ddp almost lost to Brunson, Till, and Strickland, if we go by your definition that any close win should be downplayed. He got KO'd at WW. He got taken down by Till and Brunson. He has way more fights than Khamzat, and also way more fights that have been competitive until the moment he won = he has taken more damage. He simply hasn't been as dominant in his performances as Khamzat, that's just a fact.

The fact that he's won 2 competitive fights vs elite opponents shows that he's not a front-runner.

The fact you predict that Khamzat won't be able to take him down in the first rounds made me think you were trolling, even DDP admitted that he will be taken down at some point vs Khamzat, because he's realistic.

Who has DDP beaten at MW that Khamzat wouldn't be favorite to beat?
 
You guys are acting like DDP is a cardio king lol he was breathing heavy after the first round in a slow motion slugfest with the sloth.
He has got cardio, but he will look exhausted in sequences and then find a second and third wind.

He gassed hard in round 2 vs Till, then came back and finished him in round 3.

The funny thing is that most people talked about how bad his cardio was back then, mostly due to the optics of how tired he looked, ignoring that he fought at a very high pace which also made his opponents tired.

He seems to handle being tired very well, and retains power and finishing ability even while exhausted.

I'm assuming Dricus wrestling cardio will be worse than Khamzats due to their relative backgrounds.
 
Do you think Khamzat would lose a round to Darren Till or Brunson? Get taken down by them?

Who could he have beaten instead of Burns and Usman to get your approval at the time? Whittaker, right? But then you call him dominating Whittaker in a way no one did before a "bit of a fluke".

Also, "almost lost". Ddp almost lost to Brunson, Till, and Strickland, if we go by your definition that any close win should be downplayed. He got KO'd at WW. He got taken down by Till and Brunson. He has way more fights than Khamzat, and also way more fights that have been competitive until the moment he won = he has taken more damage. He simply hasn't been as dominant in his performances as Khamzat, that's just a fact.

The fact that he's won 2 competitive fights vs elite opponents shows that he's not a front-runner.

The fact you predict that Khamzat won't be able to take him down in the first rounds made me think you were trolling, even DDP admitted that he will be taken down at some point vs Khamzat, because he's realistic.

Who has DDP beaten at MW that Khamzat wouldn't be favorite to beat?
Let’s talk the reality of where the fighter is today you bring up DDP past while failing to ask your own self WOULD TODAYS DDP beat those fiighters so its kindda like your own nonsense to swirl in not mine. It’s actually a pretty corny thing to do and it bores me you would try to the point I thing the rest may be equally as nonsensical. You ask things like who would I rather see other than Whitaker? Try any ELITE FIGHTER not named Burns who he fought to a coin flip or a smaller Usman he fought to a coin flip. Being that your boys ONLY ELITE FIGHTS. I assess vs HOW THEY ACTUALLY PERFORMED VS ELITE COMPETITION. Two of 3 occasions AGAINST ELITE COMPETITION I personally believe Usman was robbed and Burns was a draw and have nothing else to worry about. He will fold
 
Let’s talk the reality of where the fighter is today you bring up DDP past while failing to ask your own self WOULD TODAYS DDP beat those fiighters so its kindda like your own nonsense to swirl in not mine. It’s actually a pretty corny thing to do and it bores me you would try to the point I thing the rest may be equally as nonsensical. You ask things like who would I rather see other than Whitaker? Try any ELITE FIGHTER not named Burns who he fought to a coin flip or a smaller Usman he fought to a coin flip. Being that your boys ONLY ELITE FIGHTS. I assess vs HOW THEY ACTUALLY PERFORMED VS ELITE COMPETITION. Two of 3 occasions AGAINST ELITE COMPETITION I personally believe Usman was robbed and Burns was a draw and have nothing else to worry about. He will fold
Peak irony, I just judged DDP by the same nonsense standards you're using to judge Khamzat.

Fact remains though that Khamzat has taken almost 0 damage in a majority of his fights.
When he faced Li Jingliang, Kevin Holland, Robert Whittaker and a few others, he barely got punched a single time.
Compare that to DDP vs Tavares, Till, Brunson, etc and you see that those were way more competitive.

Also, Usman and Burns were obviously tougher matchups for Khamzat than Strickland, Whittaker or Adesanya, due to their level of BJJ/Wrestling.

"Fought to a coin flip" while being extremely close to finishing him (vs Usman), and all judges gave him a 10-8 for round 1. The one and only fighter to ever have a 10-8 round against him. Of course you disregard Khamzat having a fever and damaging his hand in the end of round 1, but that's to be expected given how extremely biased you are.

Let's see, both have the tools to win. Just pointing out that you're not being objective in your analysis, no need to get angry about it.
 
Khanzat minus te TD is what exactly? Khamzat when he gets a TD early and can’t finish is what exactly? He has striking that is B level and he has no jab nor kicks. He will get picked apart. He got Whitaker at an awkward angle and he is dangerous but after round 1 literally he has not a prayer. You literally are placing all bets on his first round performance wen DDP is no punk to pain or strength. I like Khamzat better but he is absolutely at a disadvantage. So you need to pipe your ass down
so i guess winning all fights in different ways is no big deal. guy fights everybody on their strongest part he will throw with ddp and he will take him down
 
Khamzat will get a take down in round 1 for sure just a matter of dricus can stop from being subbed
 
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