Media "Khabib won the most 10-8 rounds in history"

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It's unfortunate that when you look at the resume and not just the record, that ''dominance'' isn't all that impressive

Anyone can look dominant and rack up 10-8 rounds fighting uber drivers and stylistically favorable matchups, the only true elite win he has is RDA, a fight where he didn't get a 10-8

The two fights that would've challenged him the most (prime Tony and Charles) didn't happen

Islam has already challenged himself a lot more than Khabib and fought significantly better competition, and has looked more devastating doing so

This.
Khabib didn't NEED money. He and his family were legitimate millionaires BEFORE khabib every stepped foot in the UFC. That allowed them to be very picky about who he would fight and when he would fight.

Islam has already had a more impressive UFC career than khabib. And that's not knocking khabib; it's just the truth.

 

[fedorthegoat777]

This is wild and a major revelation in the GOAT debate.

Chael and DC agree that even with a win over Arman (video taken before the injury a couple weeks ago) that Khabib would still be ahead because he's better and more dominant, but they also state that while Khabib only fought 13 times in the UFC and never got scratched, he also has won the most 10-8 rounds in history.

DC goes on to elaborate that when Khabib was on his run judges barely ever gave out 10-8 scores so it's even more unprescendented. If there was ever an argument for dominance...

In his 13 UFC fights he got 9 rounds that were scored 10-8 at least by one judge. More 10-8 rounds than Jones amassed in 21 UFC fights, GSP, Silva, DJ ect... even guys who fought damn near 40 times.

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Do you know what is more dominant than a 10-8 round? Actually finishing your opponent.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

This isn't true. Khabib's UFC career took place when 10-8 rounds were rarely given out in the UFC as stated by DC in the interview.

They started becoming more common over the last few years, and yet still nobody is close to Khabib.

GSP barely qualified for 10-8 rounds because LNP doesn't qualify for 10-8 domination. Khabib advanced position constantly and made fools out of people.

Even if you want to compare eras, Khabib bested every single fighter in every division from his era.

In the case of GSP he was pushed into title contention very early and pretty much all of his fights were against high level title contender level fighters. Did he get many 10-8s against Hardy? He definitely should have if he didn't.

Khabib didn't really have the same level of title contending competition until at least mid way through his UFC career (RDA aside), that's not his fault as injuries derailed his push a lot but it's relevant as you can't tell me GSP couldn't do that to the 170 equivalent of Abel Trujillo.

 

[MarioLemieux]

In the case of GSP he was pushed into title contention very early and pretty much all of his fights were against high level title contender level fighters. Did he get many 10-8s against Hardy? He definitely should have if he didn't.

Khabib didn't really have the same level of title contending competition until at least mid way through his UFC career (RDA aside), that's not his fault as injuries derailed his push a lot but it's relevant as you can't tell me GSP couldn't do that to the 170 equivalent of Abel Trujillo.

We are literally comparing Khabib to every fighter in UFC history here. Nobody did what he did.

He holds the record among thousands of employees and he did it within 13 fights.

From guys like Jones, to lower end guys with nigh three times as many fights as him who fought nothing but jobbers.

Dominance.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

We are literally comparing Khabib to every fighter in UFC history here. Nobody did what he did.

He holds the record among thousands of employees and he did it within 13 fights.

From guys like Jones, to lower end guys with nigh three times as many fights as him who fought nothing but jobbers.

Sure but when you're comparing him to guys like Jones, Silva, MM and GSP you're comparing him with guys who were fighting at the top of the card more quickly than he was. So there's a reason for the difference.

 

[MarioLemieux]

Sure but when you're comparing him to guys like Jones, Silva, MM and GSP you're comparing him with guys who were fighting at the top of the card more quickly than he was. So there's a reason for the difference.

I can go through all of their resumes and pick out weaker fighters they fought and say why couldn't they score 10-8 rounds against them.

There's no point though if you can't acknowledge that round for round Khabib is simply more dominant than all of them.

The most 10-8's out of thousands of eployees within 13 fights.

 

[MarioLemieux]

The quality argument against Khabib doesn't hold water either because most of the 10-8's he scored in the UFC were between his stretch against Micheal Johnson and Justin Gaethje where he fought top LW after top LW.

 

[MarioLemieux]

I sure as fuck hope he got a 10-8 over Michael Johnson

Micheal Johnson is better than half the fighters that the other GOAT's didn't get 10-8's against.

He got a 10-8 off your boy Conor for instance.

 

[Goat Poster]

Khabib has 4 title defenses and 1 is against a realtor who had 1 fight in the last 3 years. What the fuck is this "goat debate" OP is talking about?

Khabib doesn't even qualify.

 

[WoozyFailGuy]

Khabib has 4 title defenses and 1 is against a realtor who had 1 fight in the last 3 years. What the fuck is this "goat debate" OP is talking about?

Khabib doesn't even qualify.

He is a respectable ~16-0 fighter, as the first half of his career was crushing cans.

His elite wins are miniscule next to the "GOAT" competition he has in GSP, Fedor, Jones. How many top 5 wins did he have? 3? Maybe 4? Dustin, Justin, Conor, RDA? I don't think RDA was ranked top 5 at the time but I could be mistaken.

Reminder that even Sherdog PBP knew that the judges robbed Tibau.


Cool 10-8 stat I guess

 

[JPOMMA]

This is wild and a major revelation in the GOAT debate.

Chael and DC agree that even with a win over Arman (video taken before the injury a couple weeks ago) that Khabib would still be ahead because he's better and more dominant, but they also state that while Khabib only fought 13 times in the UFC and never got scratched, he also has won the most 10-8 rounds in history.

DC goes on to elaborate that when Khabib was on his run judges barely ever gave out 10-8 scores so it's even more unprescendented. If there was ever an argument for dominance...

In his 13 UFC fights he got 9 rounds that were scored 10-8 at least by one judge. More 10-8 rounds than Jones amassed in 21 UFC fights, GSP, Silva, DJ ect... even guys who fought damn near 40 times.

Out of thousands of employees in UFC history Khabib has the most 10-8 rounds and within a mere 13 fights.

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Wow, the world is changing so much…winning a fight used to mean finishing a guy…vale tudo had no weight classes, no time limits and if you don’t incapacitate the other guy you don’t win…

I guess now MMA is becoming like basketball or futbol where it’s about scoring more points than the opponent.

To each his own I guess…but it’s crazy how things (or people) are changing.

 

[bjjwar]

It's unfortunate that when you look at the resume and not just the record, that ''dominance'' isn't all that impressive

Anyone can look dominant and rack up 10-8 rounds fighting uber drivers and stylistically favorable matchups, the only true elite win he has is RDA, a fight where he didn't get a 10-8

The two fights that would've challenged him the most (prime Tony and Charles) didn't happen

Islam has already challenged himself a lot more than Khabib and fought significantly better competition, and has looked more devastating doing so

Come on, look how Dustin Poirier fought vs Islam and beat all the others. If you crush a man that went 5 rounds giving Islam hell, its an impressive win. Gaethje also looked great before facing Khabib and Conor, say what you want about him, at that time he was no easy fight. No one else even came close to that level of pure dominance even vs less good fighters. You cannot be real and think Tony or Charles would have given him any trouble, he’d have killed both…

 

[Doctor Grudge]

Come on, look how Dustin Poirier fought vs Islam and beat all the others. If you crush a man that went 5 rounds giving Islam hell, its an impressive win. Gaethje also looked great before facing Khabib and Conor, say what you want about him, at that time he was no easy fight. No one else even came close to that level of pure dominance even vs less good fighters. You cannot be real and think Tony or Charles would have given him any trouble, he’d have killed both…

They're good opponents for sure, but after that he basically doesnt have anything. Barboza is a pretty big drop off. Kind of like if Thales Leites was Anderson Silva's 5th best win.

The last sentence is a little unfair. Tony was on a massive win streak, so you're saying he'd kill him basically based on what happened to him when he declined. Tony is 4 years older than Khabib, so his prime had ended around the time Khabib retired.

Oliveira is one of the greatest LWs of all time, so I think he earned a bit more respect than that. Islam beat him by rocking him on the feet before submitting him. Khabib doesn't fight that way, and Oliveira is DEFINITELY better than anyone Khabib ever fought. Not even close. So sure, Khabib should be favored, but just writing them off is lame. Khabib doesn't fight like Islam, so you can't just use that as a barometer for how he'd beat Do-Bronx. He may beat him, but maybe it'd take him longer than Islam did, just like it took Islam longer to beat Dustin than Khabib did.

Should we just assume Khabib beats everyone without a sweat? This is like Joe Rogan claiming the Machida era and Lyoto retiring before fighting Shogun. Khabib is 36 right now, if he had kept going he obviously would have some warts.

 

[clackers]

This means on top of having:

- the highest fight win rate percentate in the UFC,
- highest round win rate % in the UFC
- and the most td's in a single fight
- Khabib also has the record for out and out 10-8 domination

While Jones was picking his shots getting close decisions in 10-9 rounds, Khabib was mauling his opponents to the point where he was granted 10-8 rounds, while testing clean.

So while Jones might have the better resume, round for round, Khabib was statistically the best fighter.

Jones is better than Khabib, Khabib defended his belt 3 times then retired. Jones has 13 Title defenses. Go back and watch Jones fights you will see he was clearly better by miles as he had so many fights in the UFC and Khabib record before UFC were all cans. Jones wins against DC are better than anything Khabib ever did.

Then Jones goes and keeps challenging himself and gets the second belt.

Khabib retired because his mother told him to.

 

[HP_Nut]

It's unfortunate that when you look at the resume and not just the record, that ''dominance'' isn't all that impressive

Anyone can look dominant and rack up 10-8 rounds fighting uber drivers and stylistically favorable matchups, the only true elite win he has is RDA, a fight where he didn't get a 10-8

The two fights that would've challenged him the most (prime Tony and Charles) didn't happen

Islam has already challenged himself a lot more than Khabib and fought significantly better competition, and has looked more devastating doing so

I am of the belief that Khabib is nowhere near the GOAT due to a severe lack of title defenses. However, Khabib & Tony were booked 5x. Both guys pulled out multiple times, for whatever reason, the mma gods just wouldn’t let it happen. I do think prime Tony would’ve been Khabibs biggest challenge. Its a shame it never happened.

But while Khabib was champ, no one was clamouring for a Charles title shot. Khabibs retirement fight was Oct 2020. Charles last fight before that date, was March 2020. Charles was a slight underdog against Kevin Lee, a guy who had lost 2 of his last 3 fights before that. Despite Charles being on a 6 fight win streak, none of the 6 were top 10, & Charles was still a slight underdog despite the streak. Very few people saw him as a serious threat at the time. After Khabibs retirement fight is when Charles went on a crazy run over Ferguson, Chandler, Poirier, Gaethje. To be fair, Tony had just come off a TKO loss to Gaethje. I think the version of Tony that Khabib would’ve fought was much better/prime, Tony went on a 8 fight lossing streak beginning with the Gaethje fight