Opinion Kaitlin Clark accused of having "white" and "pretty" privilege

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Pretty?

She's a 10 for the WNBA

 

[ColemanwastheGOAT]

Women can't bear it when other women are more popular and attractive than them so they try to tear them apart. They will never admit that that's what they are doing so they have to come up with some bullshit reasons to justify their jealousy.

This is nothing new.

I love that the excuse this time is literally just 'she a white bitch.'

That's actually the best reason they can come up with.

 

[Roop Holstry]

Just ask my little cajun poofter @Poirierfan , he'll help you set up that account sir lol.

I actually once told him to stop posting selfies on sherdog. This is a karate forum, not Grinder.

 

[StonedLemur]

I actually once told him to stop posting selfies on sherdog. This is a karate forum, not Grinder.

@Poirierfan is my close friend IRL and I find that hilarious sir lol

Ive posted pics here too lmao

 

[Roop Holstry]

@Poirierfan is my close friend IRL and I find that hilarious sir lol

Ive posted pics here too lmao

Makes sense that you guys are “close” Grinder is great at bringing dudes together.

Love to hear a success story. My brother found his wife on a dating app.

 

[Fedor>Cain]

I don’t know about most of your questions.

But I would like to discuss appeal.

Of course she’s not a stunning beauty. But to guys who are into that league, she becomes the ultimate woman.

There are so many WMMA fighters that were average looking or less, but guys on Sherdog acted like they were raving beauties.
Sorry fellas, but prime dolled up versions of Gina Carano, Meisha Tate, Michelle Waterson, and other female fighters wouldn’t even get a 2nd glance on a trendy street in NY or LA. Those girls are only hot to MMA fans.

Idk brother, I'd contest that prime Gina is pretty damn hot. Waterson definitely has a cute girl next door look, so I see the appeal. You probably should replace Rousey with Carano in your post since people acted like she was hot when she looks like a pissed off baboon.

Tate is most certainly a butterface though. The silicone did her wonders in the MMA community lmao.

 

[7even]

I don’t know about most of your questions.

But I would like to discuss appeal.

Of course she’s not a stunning beauty. But to guys who are into that league, she becomes the ultimate woman.

There are so many WMMA fighters that were average looking or less, but guys on Sherdog acted like they were raving beauties.
Sorry fellas, but prime dolled up versions of Gina Carano, Meisha Tate, Michelle Waterson, and other female fighters wouldn’t even get a 2nd glance on a trendy street in NY or LA. Those girls are only hot to MMA fans.

I would definitely glance twice to prime Gina. She has that Southern European, or Italian look that I like. That look is actually not that common even in NYC.

 

[Two Crows]

Prime Gina was hot.

A little too muscular for my tastes when she was fighting, but still hot.

 

[Lord_Impaler]

They’re trying so hard to make people care about women’s sports lol.

 

[panamaican]

She's a 10 for the WNBA

No, she's not. She's not a 10 anywhere.

 

[panamaican]

Women can't bear it when other women are more popular and attractive than them so they try to tear them apart. They will never admit that that's what they are doing so they have to come up with some bullshit reasons to justify their jealousy.

This is nothing new.

That's not what the CC thing is about though. The issue that underpins is that, to some people, she's not good enough to warrant the attention that she's getting. And that there are more talented female college players and definitely WNBA players who the media are ignoring. And they're being ignored because CC is more marketable. And, let's not bs ourselves, part of why she's more marketable is because she matches the largest potential consumer demographic in the country.

They're right and they're wrong.

IMO, CC deserves attention because she's really good and she's got the college scoring record to prove it. But she's not the first really talented female player to come out in recent years and, in terms of accomplishments, CC hasn't done as much winning as others have. However, the college media space definitely pitted her image as a decent looking and talented white basketball player vs. the image of the LSU team from last year that was predominantly black and, in particular, juxtaposed her vs. Angel Reese.

That's where the whole "It's because she's white..." thing started. College media used less flattering language to describe the LSU team, sometimes even implying negative things about them while glorifying CC. After LSU beat CC's team, the media again criticized the LSU players for un-ladylike conduct while ignoring that CC is an avid trash talker herself.

The good vs. evil imagery that the media was utilizing is why CC is catching the backlash that she's getting.

She didn't create it but she's definitely benefitting from it when it comes to marketing. And for the black women, in college and in the WNBA, being used as the evil foil to Caitlin Clark's ascendancy strikes them as unfair.

 

[Andy Capp]

That's not what the CC thing is about though. The issue that underpins is that, to some people, she's not good enough to warrant the attention that she's getting. And that there are more talented female college players and definitely WNBA players who the media are ignoring. And they're being ignored because CC is more marketable. And, let's not bs ourselves, part of why she's more marketable is because she matches the largest potential consumer demographic in the country.

They're right and they're wrong.

IMO, CC deserves attention because she's really good and she's got the college scoring record to prove it. But she's not the first really talented female player to come out in recent years and, in terms of accomplishments, CC hasn't done as much winning as others have. However, the college media space definitely pitted her image as a decent looking and talented white basketball player vs. the image of the LSU team from last year that was predominantly black and, in particular, juxtaposed her vs. Angel Reese.

That's where the whole "It's because she's white..." thing started. College media used less flattering language to describe the LSU team, sometimes even implying negative things about them while glorifying CC. After LSU beat CC's team, the media again criticized the LSU players for un-ladylike conduct while ignoring that CC is an avid trash talker herself.

The good vs. evil imagery that the media was utilizing is why CC is catching the backlash that she's getting.

She didn't create it but she's definitely benefitting from it when it comes to marketing. And for the black women, in college and in the WNBA, being used as the evil foil to Caitlin Clark's ascendancy strikes them as unfair.

Are these more talented women breaking men's shooting records?

 

[Andy Capp]

They’re trying so hard to make people care about women’s sports lol.

Try to cope a little harder. They don't have to try.

 

[Fox by the Sea]

She's not a supermodel but she's not awful either. She cleans up ok.

 

[Two Crows]

That's not what the CC thing is about though. The issue that underpins is that, to some people, she's not good enough to warrant the attention that she's getting. And that there are more talented female college players and definitely WNBA players who the media are ignoring. And they're being ignored because CC is more marketable. And, let's not bs ourselves, part of why she's more marketable is because she matches the largest potential consumer demographic in the country.

They're right and they're wrong.

IMO, CC deserves attention because she's really good and she's got the college scoring record to prove it. But she's not the first really talented female player to come out in recent years and, in terms of accomplishments, CC hasn't done as much winning as others have. However, the college media space definitely pitted her image as a decent looking and talented white basketball player vs. the image of the LSU team from last year that was predominantly black and, in particular, juxtaposed her vs. Angel Reese.

That's where the whole "It's because she's white..." thing started. College media used less flattering language to describe the LSU team, sometimes even implying negative things about them while glorifying CC. After LSU beat CC's team, the media again criticized the LSU players for un-ladylike conduct while ignoring that CC is an avid trash talker herself.

The good vs. evil imagery that the media was utilizing is why CC is catching the backlash that she's getting.

She didn't create it but she's definitely benefitting from it when it comes to marketing. And for the black women, in college and in the WNBA, being used as the evil foil to Caitlin Clark's ascendancy strikes them as unfair.

Disagree with virtually every point.

The notion that, "to some people" warrants attention is absurd. Anything can be justified using that approach.

Who says other players are more talented? You?
What happens if the general public disagrees with you and/or others who make that claim?

Your conclusion on "why" CC is being marketed is highly debatable, and again, I disagree. She is being marketed because consumers are responding to the marketing. Declaring the primary driver of response as race is a very large claim that in return requires significant proof. Do you have any relevant evidence, or is that a feeling?

"As much winning" is a silly point for a team sport. It's the fallback for any player argument that lacks statistical support on an individual basis, and people making the argument inevitably create excuses on why their own logic does not apply when faced with simple examples harming the argument.

Ex. Luc Longley. He had quite a bit of "winning". Do you really want to start comparing him, and others, to the best players that never won, or had consistently poor team records?

I'm sorry, but your entire post looks like rationalization and justification. Nothing there is persuasive.

And, for the record, here is the current stat breakdown of CC vs. Reese, with CC ahead in 9 of 10 stats:

7 G 4
15.4 PTS/G 12.3
5.4 TRB/G 7.8
6.3 AST/G 1.5
1.1 STL/G 1.0
0.9 BLK/G 0.0
.371 FG% .357
.316 3P% .000
.889 FT% .633
.472 eFG% .357

 

[panamaican]

Are these more talented women breaking men's shooting records?

That's why I said "IMO, CC deserves attention because she's really good and she's got the college scoring record to prove it."

She's got the record and she's a great player. But the flip side is that she's never won anything. And top end players, like Breanna Stewart, who is white has said that it matters. So, if the players who are winning aren't getting the attention like the players who aren't winning then there's going to be some bad feelings there.

I don't know if you watched Davidson back when Steph Curry was there. He was cooking the other teams. But they never won anything. So while people praised his individual talent, he wasn't elevated to another level just because of it.

Women's basketball has a way to go before they can find the balance. However, they do need a Caitlin Clark if they want to increase their marketability. She's relatable and that makes her marketable. Plus every sport needs a person/team to love/hate so they can craft storylines around them.

 

[BIKES!]

Thank god for low-IQ purposeless, and low achieving dems to keep racism alive...

 

[Andy Capp]

Thank god for low-IQ purposeless, and low achieving dems to keep racism alive...

How is your troll arse not banned already? GTFO. The adults are talking.

 

[44nutman]

When are you going to learn, these shows make dumb arguments for clicks, which is why I will not click the video. I am too smart to fall in that trap, nor will give them another click to sell to advertisers. I bet most of the time they all sit around with each other planning some dumb shit to say, just so it gets turned into rage porn.

The chicks in the WNBA should be kissing her ass though, because she is about to make more money for all of them.
She brings eyes to a product that desperately needs them. I am not sure when the WNBA TV contract is up, because I have not followed the WNBA since Juwanna Mann retired, but I am sure based on the current ratings, they are going to get more money on the next one. More money means a higher salary cap(based on the structure of the collective agreement), which means everyone makes more money. Here is the other thing, secondary stars in the league will also have access to endorsements, because those that cant afford Clark or what she turns down, will get offers being the next best thing.

 

[Andy Capp]

That's why I said "IMO, CC deserves attention because she's really good and she's got the college scoring record to prove it."

She's got the record and she's a great player. But the flip side is that she's never won anything. And top end players, like Breanna Stewart, who is white has said that it matters. So, if the players who are winning aren't getting the attention like the players who aren't winning then there's going to be some bad feelings there.

I don't know if you watched Davidson back when Steph Curry was there. He was cooking the other teams. But they never won anything. So while people praised his individual talent, he wasn't elevated to another level just because of it.

Women's basketball has a way to go before they can find the balance. However, they do need a Caitlin Clark if they want to increase their marketability. She's relatable and that makes her marketable. Plus every sport needs a person/team to love/hate so they can craft storylines around them.

"She's never won anything" is a ridiculous thing to hold against someone. It's fucking stupid. Perhaps that's why I don't give two shits about team sports--endless blaming and claiming credit.