Jones isn't ducking, GOATS need GOAT pay

[Mohawk Banditó]

you know it's not just that. this is jones last fight. There's nothing else for him after this really. It all comes down to this for Jones, A culmination of being a mma champion for so long, he's dedicated his entire career for this his entire adult life.

He has no reason not to bargin for the biggest pay day of his life. He needs to see life changing money ONE last time in his career for him it'll all be worth it.

It may be an oversimplification, but there is truth to it. Jon had stated pretty plainly that it was extremely likely the Stipe fight was going to be his last. He was saying even 2 days before the fight that is very likely his retirement. So wouldn't everything you're saying now be stuff that we could have been saying back then and called it all fair defense of the negotiations? And yet, that fight still got signed. Twice even. Seemingly with no problems at all and nary a word of financial issues preventing it. So that means, fair as your argument is, it's still one that has conveniently come up now and not before

 

[ricc505]

Jones isn't ducking Aspinall

He needs 30-100 million dollars, to get him into the octagon now. The same as GSP. The same as Floyd Mayweather in boxing.

It boils down to money for a special night in UFC history, one of the biggest fights in the 30 year history.

Jon Jones is the GOAT.

So for his final fight, vs Aspinall (7 years younger, 35 pounds heavier). The bosses need to pay the money out.

They agree Jones is the goat. In almost every interview, Jon Jones is the face of the UFC, with bosses using his name regularly



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(They have the Money in the bank, but before Jones splits - he needs a paycheck too)

Cool story, let me know when you get your cut

 

[Captain Herb]

Dana should just announce the HW titles being unified at MSG '25 no matter what, make Gane the alternate, and whoever shows up shows up. That gives Jon his 6 months, his special gloves, and the once-a-year-fight in his own backyard. Tom will just be happy he got his date, the UFC has time to build a stacked card to pump the sales, and all this fucking nonsense can be over.

This is probably what Jon agrees to knowing that he's got plenty of time to pull out with another injury which is likely what he would do in order to not fight Tom but try to not look like a pussy at the same time, and have a good excuse when he is stripped of the belt for a 4th time.

 

[Captain Herb]

The UFC isn't a popularity contest.

Jon
"Picogram
Wife Abuser In Front Of His Daughter
Strip Club Waitress Abuser
Marijuana Snitch
Under Cage Hider
Cocaine Addict
Admitted Eye Poker
Francis Ngannou Ducker
Low Testosterone
DUI, X 2
Hit N' Run pregnant woman
Gas Station Dick Pills
Estrogen Blocker User
Devout Christian"
Jones,
doesn't draw enough to be paid like Mcgregor. If he did the UFC would pay him, like McGregor.

Hard concept for his fanboys to understand, I know.

Anyway, welcome back to Sherdog!

"Under cage hider"

 

[surgeyou1]

"100M" Lol no fighter has ever received that much from a promoter for a fight, Mayweather's claim of that amount was likely all smoke and mirrors.

Mayweather was the promoter. He definitely cleared 9 figures against Pac and Mac

 

[AstralPanda]

I think it’s more of a fee for passing the torch.

Sacrificing well known greats to build new fighters has always been part of the business in the UFC, but Jones is unique among fighters.

Youngest UFC champ, most title defenses, most wins, longest win streak, P4P #1 according to the UFC President himself.

Literally no one else has those accolades, and he’s done it in the most popular and dangerous divisions.

If he doesn’t have negotiating power, who does?

I think GSP probably felt the same, which is why, despite saying he would defend the MW belt, never did. He knew that Whittaker and the UFC were going to benefit greatly from him losing. The UFC likely didn’t offer what he wanted so he walked.

Jones has even more negotiating power, and is more egotistical than GSP. He will sit on the belt with a smile on his face until he gets what he deserves.

If Aspinall beats Jones, the UFC suddenly has a new superstar in a non-US market, and stand to make a ton of money going forward. Jones just wants his piece of the pie.

The GSP parallel/ analogy Is a good one, very good. Similar situation, both very smart and thinking of what makes the most business sense.

at the time, he'd also avoided a prime Woodley in favor of a past prime Bisping for the belt, who was an easier fight as well.

Which had nothing to do with being scared of Woodley. Bisping was the bigger fight in terms of numbers. Bigger numbers, more accolades, title on the line, similar age. It made more sense on every level, which seems to matter more when you get to that later stage of your career.

When you really compare the two, their situation and decision making is almost identical.

And I've said it a million times, when you've paid your dues, given everything to a sport, solidified your legacy, you've earned the right to be selective and pursue big money fights.

We almost always see fighters go after the bag when they're at this stage of their career and there's nothing wrong with it, it's a fighters last opportunity to make wealth for the rest of their life.

If GSP got a huge payday to fight Whittaker, he probably would've reconsidered, but it almost certainly would've been a pay cut, for a high risk low reward fight. Made little sense to stay.

That's the main difference, there's a good chance the UFC makes an exception in their percentages and gives Jon a bigger chunk of the pie.

 

[MDoza]

The GSP parallel/ analogy Is a good one, very good. Similar situation, both very smart and thinking of what makes the most business sense.

at the time, he'd also avoided a prime Woodley in favor of a past prime Bisping for the belt, who was an easier fight as well.

Which had nothing to do with being scared of Woodley. Bisping was the bigger fight in terms of numbers. Bigger numbers, more accolades, title on the line, similar age. It made more sense on every level, which seems to matter more when you get to that later stage of your career.

When you really compare the two, their situation and decision making is almost identical.

And I've said it a million times, when you've paid your dues, given everything to a sport, solidified your legacy, you've earned the right to be selective and pursue big money fights.

We almost always see fighters go after the bag when they're at this stage of their career and there's nothing wrong with it, it's a fighters last opportunity to make wealth for the rest of their life.

If GSP got a huge payday to fight Whittaker, he probably would've reconsidered, but it almost certainly would've been a pay cut, for a high risk low reward fight. Made little sense to stay.

That's the main difference, there's a good chance the UFC makes an exception in their percentages and gives Jon a bigger chunk of the pie.

If GSP chose to sit on the belt, peoples tune would be a lot different.

They would overwhelmingly make same the argument that I’m making for Jones.

Even if he said “I think Whittaker should fight Rockhold or Romero first”, they would support that idea too.

People just have their biases against Jones (deserved or not), so they won’t support him getting what he deserves.

In reality, both GSP and Jones are perfectly justified in making the same demands, which are: have the interim champ defend the belt and prove themselves, then offer me $20+ million dollars guaranteed plus PPV points.

 

[GrantB13]

Upwards of $100,000,000???? 1/10th of a billion dollars for a single fight be has an obligation to fight or vacate? LOL!

 

[FlyingDeathKick]

yeah totally remember when mayweather was suspended for overall years cause of multiple steroid piss hots?

... neither do I

I remember when he used like 15x the allowed amount of IV before the Pacquiao fight... This is a guy that doesn't really cut weight either, yet he needed that IV...

 

[Captain Herb]

The GSP parallel/ analogy Is a good one, very good. Similar situation, both very smart and thinking of what makes the most business sense.

at the time, he'd also avoided a prime Woodley in favor of a past prime Bisping for the belt, who was an easier fight as well.

Which had nothing to do with being scared of Woodley. Bisping was the bigger fight in terms of numbers. Bigger numbers, more accolades, title on the line, similar age. It made more sense on every level, which seems to matter more when you get to that later stage of your career.

When you really compare the two, their situation and decision making is almost identical.

And I've said it a million times, when you've paid your dues, given everything to a sport, solidified your legacy, you've earned the right to be selective and pursue big money fights.

We almost always see fighters go after the bag when they're at this stage of their career and there's nothing wrong with it, it's a fighters last opportunity to make wealth for the rest of their life.

If GSP got a huge payday to fight Whittaker, he probably would've reconsidered, but it almost certainly would've been a pay cut, for a high risk low reward fight. Made little sense to stay.

That's the main difference, there's a good chance the UFC makes an exception in their percentages and gives Jon a bigger chunk of the pie.

This is exactly the wrong attitude. You seem to think that if a fighter has had a good and long career and through manipulation finds themselves in possession of the belt by way of a gifted title shot, then the belt becomes theirs and they can choose who to defend, when to defend, or defend at all. This is extremely incorrect, although it is a popular opinion of casuals who are better suited for the WWE. The belt is a trophy for the best mma fighter in their division based on merit, based on actual results and it's especially egregious in the HW division because the champ is normally referred to as "The Baddest Man on the Planet". When you allow someone like Jones a gifted and cherry picked title shot and then let him prance around with the belt, masquerading as the BMOP, picking and choosing his next opponent, ducking the Interim Champ with no absolutely shame, it's offensive to fans of the sport because we want to believe that this sport is actually a real thing not the bullshit that it is becoming.

 

[ejazahmednit]

Then why not come out and say that he need XYZ amount of money for this fight and stop dissing Aspinall and claiming legacy and shit.
Instead we have mind readers like TS

 

[cmw43]

"100M" Lol no fighter has ever received that much from a promoter for a fight, Mayweather's claim of that amount was likely all smoke and mirrors.

Mayweather Vs McGregor brought in over $600million and Mayweather was the promoter, if he wasn't getting the money where was it going?

 

[Eric Silva 2.0]

I like my guy better.......

 

[TGArthur]

Dana is giving him goat pay

 

[nostradumbass]

Lol at "35 lbs heavier". Tom keeps getting bigger and bigger. He was 251 for his last fight, and his others fluctuate around the same range, Jones' 2 weigh ins were 248 and 238. That isn't close to 35 lbs.

And yeah, if a fighter requires requires the event lose millions of dollars for him to show up, that is him trying to price himself out of negotiations.

 

[mkess101]

Lol at "35 lbs heavier". Tom keeps getting bigger and bigger. He was 251 for his last fight, and his others fluctuate around the same range, Jones' 2 weigh ins were 248 and 238. That isn't close to 35 lbs.

And yeah, if a fighter requires requires the event lose millions of dollars for him to show up, that is him trying to price himself out of negotiations.

35 is a bit much, and you're right in terms of actual weights they're fighting at.

I'd argue that Aspinall is fighting at close to his optimal weight while Jones looks like he just decided to eat whatever he wants and be a dad bod. He's good enough to beat deer-in-headlights Gane and ghost of Stipe in that shape. Doubt he beats Aspinall looking like that though.

And yes asking for an amount you know won't be paid is 100% avoiding the fight.

I'll agree to fight a grizzly bear for one hundred trillion dollars. What? You won't pay me what I'm worth? Well, not my fault the event isn't happening!

 

[Poirierfan]

Enough already, Jones is trying to prove himself out of this fight just like he did with Francis. Some people are just stupid, no offense.

 

[SJP_SevenLaker]

I like my guy better.......

The sloth is goated for sure.

 

[kirsky]

Great another retard on sherdog...30-100 mil hahaha he will be happy if get 3 + ppv points... idiot

 

[AstralPanda]

Enough already, Jones is trying to prove himself out of this fight just like he did with Francis. Some people are just stupid, no offense.

Jones was preparing for ngannou back in November 2022

Dana during all of those press conferences during that time said Jones is fighting for the title next

Ariel said Jones is next

DC said Jones is next

The entire media said Jones is next

Chael said Jones is next

NGANNOU HIMSELF said he was offered the contract for 8 million and if he accepted, they would've fought Jones

Nicksick said they would've fought Jones, but the contract wasn't enough.

ALL of the media said Jones is fighting on the march 2023 card, over a month before ngannou officially didn't resign.

SHERDOG - Jones ducked

Ngannou chased a 20 mil Saudi oil baron bag, but he was just going him and he deserved it.



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