Jones isn't ducking, GOATS need GOAT pay

[Takes Two To Tango]

Jones deserves being paid his worth I agree. Although, I hope Jon believes that people will think he's a coward if he doesn't fight Aspinall. So he will be forced by his ego to take him on.

That's my wish, but we will see.

 

[RockyLockridge]

Yup, goats conveniently need goat pay for only very specific fights that they themselves criticize as being not being big sellers

you know it's not just that. this is jones last fight. There's nothing else for him after this really. It all comes down to this for Jones, A culmination of being a mma champion for so long, he's dedicated his entire career for this his entire adult life.

He has no reason not to bargin for the biggest pay day of his life. He needs to see life changing money ONE last time in his career for him it'll all be worth it.

 

[surgeyou1]

He's ducking


And asking for a purse you know the UFC will never give you is a great way to duck and pretend to save face

Aspinall is a terrible fight for him. And he knows it. He's gotten older fatter and slower.

 

[fightfan70]

im not sure why this is sooooo hard to understand for some people

you know it's not just that. this is jones last fight. There's nothing else for him after this really. It all comes down to this for Jones, A culmination of being a mma champion for so long, he's dedicated his entire career for this his entire adult life.

He has no reason not to bargin for the biggest pay day of his life. He needs to see life changing money ONE last time in his career for him it'll all be worth it.

 

[Captain Herb]

Jones is on the wrong side of 35, fighting above his natural weight class, against a younger and bigger opponent.

Taking a fight against a one dimensional fighter like Gane or a well-past-prime guy like Miocic is different than taking a fight against Aspinall who is young and well rounded.

Dana would no doubt try to spin that argument, but nothing would hit quite like Aspinall actually winning the fight.

Dana always goes on about making the biggest and best fights.. he can’t just let Jones walk without fighting Ngannou OR Aspinall. He already let GSP duck Silva and Whittaker.

At some point he’s gotta pay to get the fights that people want to see.

People always bitch and moan about fighter pay, but the second the most decorated fighter in UFC history asks to get paid to defend the belt for the title of the Baddest Man on the Planet.. all of a sudden he’s the bad guy?
If Jones can’t get a big payday from the UFC, who will ever be able to?

Yeah that would be the ideal situation but are you suggesting the UFC should take a loss on the event to pay Jon his FU money? What if he wins and doesn't retire and keeps demanding FU money? Now he's got Dana by the balls and I think Dana will move on before that happens

 

[Luffy]

im not sure why this is sooooo hard to understand for some people

Pretending to be ignorant. Some ppl aren't dumb, but when it comes to JJ, their emotions make them play dumb. Unfortunately, but yeah.

 

[Tweak896]

I just hope UFC doesn't turn into boxing where you got guys like Fury willing to take more than events make and expect it. Profitability means security for the sport, you can see many long standing boxing orgs fall after this became common. Not only that but every fight ended up in Abu Dhabi.

So guys like Fury get 50M instead of 10M, so what? I don't get why fans get so attached to pay. As long as top guys get millions, who gives a fuck whether they get 5M or 150M. Look what we got from Conor after he got paid from Mayweather fight. It's not going to be overnight that UFC turns into NFL, if there is a superstar that breaks out inside UFC they will always get paid what they want.

 

[NoSmilez]

Jones has a little leverage now. He is probably the biggest draw for the UFC. Mcgregor is definitely not coming back. Maybe if Francis signs back with the UFC then we might see something fun.

 

[DeathStroke]

Is it reasonable to estimate the UFC currently has over 1 billion dollars of net profit banked. Yes.

So why can't it pay Jon Jones 30 million dollars.

This was such a stupid comment that I logged in for the first time in over a year just to say fuck you.

It is not reasonable, and you don’t have to assume. The ENTIRE capital structure (UFC + WWE) has ~$500 million in cash and liquid securities as of year end 2024 split across both organizations.

That is all. Goodbye.

 

[PaddyO'malley]

Dumpling style negotiation rate it

 

[Skarsgard]

Lmao ya the condition was that he couldn’t maintain the weight off cycle

Maybe. Maybe not. Without a single failed test, it's all conjecture.

 

[Skarsgard]

He also spent years saying he was too small for MW, and that it would take him a long time to get his body where it needed to be for him to fight at 185lbs. Crazy it ended up being GSP knew his own body better than all those Sherbroni's who cried for years they didn't get to see him get KO'd by Silva.

Silva is the one who calls out GSP, and GSP is the one who takes shit for ducking? That's blind hater stupidity.

Honestly, I always thought the desire to see him at 185 was crazy. Thought he'd be better off making a cut to 155 than going to 185.

 

[Takes Two To Tango]

Honestly, I always thought the desire to see him at 185 was crazy. Thought he'd be better off making a cut to 155 than going to 185.

The problem with GSP trying to cut to 155, the guy is literally shredded at 170. He'd be killing himself to go down to 155 imo.

 

[Oscar Madison]

After a year goes by with no Title Defense -- NOBODY is Champ.

UFC is without a Heavyweight Champ.

 

[Local Plata]

Um, Jones didn't fight Ngannou or Aspinall.

His entire HW arc is a duck to finish gathering money before he retires without risking too much. He's still the goat*, but he's definitely taking advantage of his favorable position with the UFC.

*Multiple failed steroids tests for multiple different substances.

 

[Skarsgard]

The problem with GSP trying to cut to 155, the guy is literally shredded at 170. He'd be killing himself to go down to 155 imo.

I don't think so. He always made weight pretty comfortably and only looked massive against BJ, who wasn't even that big at 155.
Sure, it might be a tough cut, but I have no doubt that he'd do it efficiently.

 

[PeterGriffin]

Yeah that would be the ideal situation but are you suggesting the UFC should take a loss on the event to pay Jon his FU money? What if he wins and doesn't retire and keeps demanding FU money? Now he's got Dana by the balls and I think Dana will move on before that happens

Not sure how the biggest cheat of all-time managed to cuck the CEO and president of the UFC. Kind of mind-blowing really. Jon would have Dana by the balls, but by Dana letting him have his balls in the first place.

If my employee independent contractor told me he's not building my deck, or wiring my house, or paving my driveway for less than $30 million dollars or else, when he has no real leverage... that's an interesting strategy.



I get it. Jon's fans want to see him paid super-well on the way out. That's a noble thought, maybe Jon deserves it, maybe not. But dragging this out ONLY works to Jon's advantage.

Dana should just announce the HW titles being unified at MSG '25 no matter what, make Gane the alternate, and whoever shows up shows up. That gives Jon his 6 months, his special gloves, and the once-a-year-fight in his own backyard. Tom will just be happy he got his date, the UFC has time to build a stacked card to pump the sales, and all this fucking nonsense can be over.

If Jon retires instead of showing up, the UFC doesn't actually lose anything by Jon fading away into eternal duckiness. Jon gets no payday, has no more title, and can't fight elsewhere. The UFC still gets a title defense, an event and a champion.

And if Jon's swan song proves to be the charade against Stipe, then Jon and Lebron can be the dynamic duo of try-hardests ever. Some of the people here saying Jones deserves to be paid fairly are the same ones who was cheering for Dana not paying Francis. Fickle crowd we are.

Once Conor and Jon are officially gone, I think you'll see the UFC keep tighter reins on their champs.

 

[michhmoggan]

Ducking

 

[Neck&Neck]

GOATs need grass… and ass and cash

Bro should of packed it in after his iconic fight with Uncle Stipes

 

[svmr_db]

"100M" Lol no fighter has ever received that much from a promoter for a fight, Mayweather's claim of that amount was likely all smoke and mirrors.