Jon Jones Responds to Retirement Criticism

but you understand that essentially reads like a concession that you just pulled a view out of your ass with no basis for it--right?
That's fine, Im not the thought police, I dont exist to change your mind. have your opinion, think that mine came from my ass with a bias, I'm perfectly fine with that. It's what im doing, after all.
 
That's fine, Im not the thought police, I dont exist to change your mind. have your opinion, think that mine came from my ass with a bias, I'm perfectly fine with that. It's what im doing, after all.

Okay fair enough haha. I am actually honestly interested to hear WHY someone would hold a view that I can't see much evidence for. That also doesn't necessarily mean zero evidence exists, just that I don't see it.
 
Okay fair enough haha. I am actually honestly interested to hear WHY someone would hold a view that I can't see much evidence for. That also doesn't necessarily mean zero evidence exists, just that I don't see it.
Well, To start, you say Tuivasa dropped gane, never happened to aspinall.

Aspinall hasn't faced hitters like Lewis, Ngannou, and Tuivasa. guys like pavlovich can ko, yes, but he's not a one punch guy as much as he overwhelms you. Aspinall has not faced those threats, Which is part of why YOU get to say."aspinall has never been in that situation" when what you mean to say is "He's not as proven as gane" because Tom has not fought the same touch of death HW ko artists that gane has.

Gane stood infront of francis for a whole fight and didn't get ko'd not even dropped, and outstruck francis on the feet virtually the entire fight. francis had to lay on him to win. He's incredibly illusive on the feet and moves VERY well for a HW. He's very hard to hit clean, and his striking cardio, abillity to stick to the game plan and not get greedy is elite. I've seen gane do the 5 round striking clinics on rozenstrikue and Volkov who are both very technical seasoned strikers. 50-45 on both. I've not seen that level of sustained performance from tom.
 
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Well, If Tom got paid more money than he would to take a fights to wait he should be thanking jon jones. He actually has nothing to complain about at all if he got paid more. the only thing criminal about jones holding of the title for 6 months was that tom had no opportunities to get paid but if Tom gets to rest, Train, not put milage on his frame AND get paid more, Sounds like tom is the real winner in all this.
Tom didn't get paid to sit around waiting for Jones. His dad just said again the other day that Jones' BS kept them from making any money. Presumably Tom got paid to backup Jones/Stipe, no idea how much.
 
Such a nonsense response. Jon's living in his own world of delusion, that's for sure.
 
I hope to hear absolutely nothing about Jon Jones going forward. He was the biggest cheat in UFC history, biggest duck, and one of the biggest all around low-lifes, which is saying a lot.

Whatever talent he had is so tainted at this point that IDGAF. Just go away and stay away.

For his sake i hope he cleans up his life, but i think there is like a 0.1% chance of that happening.

At this point the only interesting thing is whether him or Connor will be the first to: go to jail, OD, get killed or badly injured doing something stupid, or go broke and fight bare knuckle or box Jake Paul.
 
I mean Jones has a shit ton of miles on him. I think he spanned across enough mma eras. People gave GSP and Khabib a pass. So I think in time people will let it go.

Jones was a weightclass higher than his usual and at retirement age especially for being a young high level fighter. Most guys who move up a division don't do much. I mean dude is 38.
 
I mean Jones has a shit ton of miles on him. I think he spanned across enough mma eras. People gave GSP and Khabib a pass. So I think in time people will let it go.

Jones was a weightclass higher than his usual and at retirement age especially for being a young high level fighter. Most guys who move up a division don't do much. I mean dude is 38.

The issue isn't really that he retires in itself. It's how he behaved around that situation, ducking the interim champion and also stringing things along to mess up the HW title scene. That's why this is a disgrace.

Then again it's quite mild compared to being the record holder in pissing hot in the UFC so things were already looking terrible.
 
Tom didn't get paid to sit around waiting for Jones. His dad just said again the other day that Jones' BS kept them from making any money. Presumably Tom got paid to backup Jones/Stipe, no idea how much.
This is contradictory to much that is understood, I was always told the UFC was contractually obligated to offer 3 fights per year to all contracted fighters.
 
Tom didn't get paid to sit around waiting for Jones. His dad just said again the other day that Jones' BS kept them from making any money. Presumably Tom got paid to backup Jones/Stipe, no idea how much.

I'm pretty sure the UFC would have to pay him to honor their contractual obligations.
 
Eternally the victim

If you want to claim something you have to back it up, not rely on something you did a decade ago.

If you dont people will call you out. Is normal.

Stop crying JBJ
 
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Jon Jones recently hit back at those slamming him for retiring.

Considered the MMA GOAT, Jones’ retirement was unceremonious to say the least. The youngest ever to become a UFC champ, Jones had a legendary run as the light heavyweight title holder until 2020. While his legacy has been marred by personal issues and drug test failures, no one can take away from his dominance inside the Octagon.

Jones returned after a three-year hiatus in 2023 and made easy work of Ciryl Gane to win the heavyweight title. He was then scheduled to defend the title against Stipe Miocic but was forced out due to an injury. Meanwhile, Tom Aspinall became the interim champ by beating Sergei Pavlovich, and he then defended the interim title against Curtis Blaydes. However, Jones remained adamant about fighting Miocic, whom he defeated at UFC 309 in November 2024. Since that victory, Bones appeared uninterested in a fight against Aspinall, a saga which kept the heavyweight division on hold.

This led to widespread criticism and an online petition to strip Jones of the title that garnered nearly 200,000 signatures. The ordeal ended at a post-fight presser at UFC Baku last weekend, when Dana White announced Jones’ retirement. However, the criticism hasn’t stopped, as fans continue to slam Jones for depriving them of the fight they wanted and wasting a year of Aspinall’s career.

'Bones' Proud to Control His Own Destiny​



Jones responded, saying the critics are unhappy with him for retiring while he was still “dominating.” Jones posted a picture of himself with other UFC champs from the last decade, all of whom are now retired, most of long before “Bones.”

"I guess everybody else gets to retire - just not when you’re still dominating. Funny how that works,” Jones wrote on his Instagram Stories. “Forget personal goals, forget business ventures. Some folks really believe you should fight until they say you’ve had enough. Wild. Imagine thinking a grown man shouldn’t control his own destiny.”

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Like Conor before Jones, it's gonna get tiresome quick hearing from this idiot. He needs help before he kills innocent people.
 
Either Jones doesn't get it, or he is intentionally talking shit..

Of course a man should control his own destiny...the issue with that, and with Jones, is the manner in which it is done.

For example, GSP controlled his own destiny when he stepped away from WW, and again after his MW win...he was forthcoming both times and promptly vacated each title.

Jones was not forthcoming about anything, chose to cling to the HW belt for 6+ months while ducking the *obvious* fight vs. an interim champ who had to defend his silly interim title because Jones previously chased a bullshit 'legacy fight'.
 
Tom didn't get paid to sit around waiting for Jones. His dad just said again the other day that Jones' BS kept them from making any money. Presumably Tom got paid to backup Jones/Stipe, no idea how much.
That's simply not plausible. Of course he was paid; otherwise he'd have taken a lot of money to fight somewhere else. There's no way that the UFC would risk Tom voiding his contract for a breach by the UFC. He probably wasn't paid as much as he'd have been paid to fight, certainly not as much as if he'd fought Jones, but he was paid enough not to jump ship or complain about not being offered fights.

Tom made $500K plus incentives for his most recent fight, the largest pay day of his career. He wouldn't have gotten Ngannou money to fight elsewhere, but someone would have offered him a couple of million if he were available and he'd have taken it.
 
Honestly as a Die hard GSP fan, I have to ask why I don't hear GSP ducked whittaker every day for 9 months but I hear Jones ducked aspinall all the time when in reality they both decided to hang it up. Kudos to them both. Leave on top before the game chews you up and spits you out.
Maybe because GSP had a legit health issue and he vacated his MW title the following month?

Very different scenario.
 
Jon Jones being retired now is going to be ugly would not be surprised if he ends up in jail or worse prison.
 
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