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Jon Jones Responds to Retirement Criticism

It's not that he retired on top. It's that he held up the division for two years. Not even Conor jammed things up for that long. It's as clear as day what the problem is and he's sidestepping it completely, intentionally defending himself against an accusation nobody made. Classic narcc behavior
 
I could dig it up, but like 10+ years ago I said it was not going to end well for Jones... and it won't.

We'll hear about him going to jail, OD'ing, or something similar.

And he still won't take responsibility.
 
I have no doubt he is going to return for at least 1 fight in a year or two once the court cases quiet down.

When he's broke. He's going to really regret leaving that $30,000,000 on the table to fight Tom.
 
I agree he should be able to control his own destiny, but that shouldn't have included sitting on the title this long for nothing.
 
Honestly as a Die hard GSP fan, I have to ask why I don't hear GSP ducked whittaker every day for 9 months but I hear Jones ducked aspinall all the time when in reality they both decided to hang it up. Kudos to them both. Leave on top before the game chews you up and spits you out.
GSP came back to fight for the championship, and became undisputed champ. GSP defeated the legitimate champ.

When he had health issues, he vacated the belt. GSP chose not to hold up the entire division.

Jones came back to fight Gane for the vacant HW championship. Jones then held the division for over a year to fight a retired Stipe.

Jones then held the division up some more to favoid unifying the belt against the interim champion, before finally retiring on the same week that he had more legal trouble.

You do the math.
 
GSP came back to fight for the championship, and became undisputed champ. GSP defeated the legitimate champ.

When he had health issues, he vacated the belt. GSP chose not to hold up the entire division.

Jones came back to fight Gane for the vacant HW championship. Jones then held the division for over a year to fight a retired Stipe.

well this part is kinda wrong he was supposed to fight stipe the same year, he only happened to get injured.
 
Jones is an interesting figure in the sport. He's so undeniably good at fighting, and such an undeniably bad person. And the fact that he was so good at fighting, and thus valuable to rich powerful people, he got away with a lot of really heinous shit and never really had to learn or grow from any of it.

This is a guy who's a serial woman beater who also hit a pregnant lady with his car while intoxicated and then fled the scene.

If he wasn't so good at fighting, he'd be in prison.

It doesn't surprise me at all that he's dipping out of the sport rather than fighting Aspinall because it's exactly the type of thing I'd expect someone with such an immense lack of character to do.

Add that in and the steroid use and he's in this really interesting spot where he's simultaneously arguably the best of all time while also being a good candidate for basically being someone the sport should just forget ever existed.
 
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Jones has fought more recently than tom, Tom has more than likely been offered fights he could have taken. Barao never threw a hissy fit and said "I'm not fight anyone other than cruz" He just fought til he became champ. That's not all on jones.
Think the problem is Tom was already Champ. What's he supposed to do, defend his interim title ad eternum while he waited for Jones to pick his fights? I can't see how people think it's normal to have the HW belt where the holder fights against contenders and the make believe HW belt where the holder sits and pick easy fights against retired fighters.
Hell, im surprised Jon didn't call out fat grandpa DC for his next challenger.
 
Jon, take your criticism about our criticism and go swim in a Thailand pool with it.
 
Think the problem is Tom was already Champ. What's he supposed to do, defend his interim title ad eternum while he waited for Jones to pick his fights?

Yes why not it makes him money moves the division and pressures Jones. Way better than what he did which was waste years of his prime not fighting and chasing another man around like a hoe. Champs don't chase people.
 
Yes why not it makes him money moves the division and pressures Jones. Way better than what he did which was waste years of his prime not fighting and chasing another man around like a hoe. Champs don't chase people.
Are you placing the blame on Tom for this shitshow instead of Jones and the UFC? That's wild to me.
 
He’s close to 40 and dealing with his personal life. Probably it took a toll on him
 
Are you placing the blame on Tom for this shitshow instead of Jones and the UFC? That's wild to me.
when did I use the word blame? Just because tom could use his own actions to circumvent a situation doesn't mean he created that situation. I never said that, and I never implied that
 
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So much for “riding off into the sunset”

Completely destroyed his legacy

Also, you can’t be the goat if you didn’t play by the same rules as those who came before you. What I mean by that is Anderson, MM, Aldo, GSP, Fedor they all fought the best. None of them ducked an obvious contender like Jones.

His legacy isn't destroyed because you and some sherdoggers say it is.This is just your opinion.
 
His legacy isn't destroyed because you and some sherdoggers say it is.This is just your opinion.

That’s the deflection you guys make. “It’s only on this small corner of the internet where this is the narrative”

That’s not true. The casuals know the truth. If you went outside and spoke to every day people once in a while you would know that.

That’s all you guys have. Lies and gaslighting. I’m not your wife bud you can’t tell me whats true and what isn’t.
 
Jones has fought more recently than tom, Tom has more than likely been offered fights he could have taken. Barao never threw a hissy fit and said "I'm not fight anyone other than cruz" He just fought til he became champ. That's not all on jones.

also that other stuff has nothing to do with fighting, So as long as we realize we're being biased, I guess that's reasonable.

No, Aspinall wasn't offered anyone else. In fact they publicly said they WOULD fight someone else but were paid and told to sit and wait for Jones because that's the fight the UFC wanted. Think about it, if Aspinall was offered someone else that means that person was also offered and would know about it. There's a 0% chance that wouldn't then be said publicly by that person, their camp, their manager, etc. Like Gane, Almeida, Volkov would be approached about fighting Tom, then told "Nevermind, he won't sign" and they wouldn't tell people?? Not a prayer.

So no, it's not on Aspinall for "not fighting other guys" when he wasn't even offered anyone else.
 
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