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Lance Armstrong also had an overrated legacy
Jon Jones had an overrated legacy.
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The way those in the know view it. They also don't turn a blind eye to that Cormier rematch.
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Let’s see
bonnar lol
O’Brien lol
Hammill lol
Vera lol
Vlad lol
Bader - green but decent win
Rua - washed up
Rampage - washed up
Lyoto - decent win but twice his size
Evans - washed up & twice his size
Vitor - old and half his size short notice almost got arm broken
Gus - Lost
Glover - decent win
DC - never great and half his size. Jones juiced up but probably the most “prime” guy he’s fought
OSP - pathetic showing lol
DC- lol we all know what happened here
Gus- washed up
Smith- never very good & neither did anything
Santos- Lost and looked like shit (santos had zero functioning legs)
Reyes- Lost and looked like shit (Reyes isn’t good)
And we’ll just leave out all the eye gouging and roids
Didn’t beat anybody in their prime except maybe DC & stretching it for lyoto. Also hasn’t destroyed anybody since like Obamas first term lol
So yeh. Overrated as hell
Well the comparison is with Cormier. Jones had the testesterone levels of a 90 year old man. DC was in the acceptable range. Maybe DC was also on the roids. Who knows. But Jones got caught constantly and looked ordinary after usada.
So basically they are no good fighters anywhere ever. Everyone sucks. What a great take.
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His two best wins are over a 40 year old obese 5'7" blown up LHW, whose best of his career is a lucky fluke KO of 40 year old Stipe (a guy that got slept by Struve in his prime, Struve being a guy that lost to old Arlovski who got slept by Datsik in his prime) who then destroyed him twice afterward.
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No Jones was always a size bully who never dared move up. His wins look good on paper but a lot of fights were way closer than people pretend. Lots of decisions, some of which he should have lost.
GOAT of PEDs only unless he actually fights at HW (not happening).
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When has Jon even struggled to make 205, now he's a weight bully? Lol
There's lightweights with bigger legs than Jon. I think his skills were just ahead of their time, probably not so much now. Never saw Jon hanging off a towel at weigh ins
There's lightweights with bigger legs than Jon. I think his skills were just ahead of their time, probably not so much now. Never saw Jon hanging off a towel at weigh ins
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Thiago Santos......Anthony Smith....lots of puffed up middleweights on his record and two further LHW's that were undersized and moved down in Evans and Machida.
Just because YOU SAY everyone is on PED's doesn't make it true. Whereas it is a FACT that Jones is a PED cheat.
Cope better.
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He would have absolutely butt f****d Fedor and according to many on here, that's an accomplishment
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I'm sympathetic to much of this, but I think Vera, Belfort and Evans were better wins than you let on; they were all doing well at the points in their careers when they fought Jones. I seem to recall Machida bulked up for that Jones fight; "half his size" would be more applicable to Sonnen.
Also, you can't point out that Jones juiced up for the Cormier fight and then say "we'll leave out the 'roids."
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Great question.
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This thread has been every 2 months for years, but our new friend wouldn't know that.
Oh look, another 'everyone sucks' guy. Cormier also beat prime Anthony Johnson 2x. He beat a prime Gus and a still competitive Barnett. He also beat Bigfoot Silva right after the Fedor win. That's on top of beating a prime Miocic. Add that to beating Derrick Lewis, Roy Nelson, Frank Mir, Hendo, Anderson. Stop being a hater. Cormier was great.
Only in MMA that a PED cheat is glorified.
Best excuse for his minions: everyone is on Ped.
-Multiple offences, pico pass, under cage story, etc... most of others have what; better team, more money, more ressources? Really?
Let alone all the in-cage cheap shots that make Rousimar looks like a nice guy.
This guy is above White privileges, he got Bones privileges which is top level.
Best excuse for his minions: everyone is on Ped.
-Multiple offences, pico pass, under cage story, etc... most of others have what; better team, more money, more ressources? Really?
Let alone all the in-cage cheap shots that make Rousimar looks like a nice guy.
This guy is above White privileges, he got Bones privileges which is top level.
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GSP's resume of wins is just as good imho. Also won a second belt.
Hughes x2
Penn x2
Koscheck x2
Condit
Diaz
Fitch
Shields
Bisping
Hendricks
Sherk
Alves
Karo
Serra
etc
Jones has a resume that consists of a lot of former champs because the belt changed hands often. After Hughes' reign, GSP denied a whole bunch of people who could have easily been champ.
Others also have underrated resumes because people only look at things in hindsight. I won't bother discussing it here because it will give people an aneurysm.
That's reasonable. But notice you had to point to another GOAT level fighter as a comparison. At best you could name 2 or 3 guys with a better resume.
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That was arlovski's first fight, Sherdog gonna Sherdog
