Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

[heloder]

It's a bunch of gobbledygook.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it "gobbledygook". These are theories based on repeatable observation.

Everything out of nothing for no purpose at all sounds like the most supernatural mythology of all.

LOL @ "complicated physical phenomena"... show me just one example where anything even remotely similar has ever occurred anywhere. All the matter in the universe, trillions of stars and planets, all out of absolutely nothing, for no reason at all... have you thought about that for even 10 seconds, try it...

The Big Bang theory does not state that everything came from nothing. In fact, that contradicts one of the most basic laws of physics, which is the law of conservation of energy. The Big Bang theory states that all of the energy in the Universe originated from the singularity.

If you're confusing things and you're actually trying to refer to something beyond the Big Bang (like say, how or why the singularity came about), then that's a completely different debate, and arguably not within the realm of science at all (at least currently), but philosophy.

 

[Koro_11]

He literally says "i don't believe in the big bang, i believe in Jesus" he believes they are mutually exclusive.

Ok, so him and billions of others, and what’s wrong with that, Jesus was a historical figure who in fact existed, which is more than we can say for the Big Bang theory.

 

[Koro_11]

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it "gobbledygook". These are theories based on repeatable observation.



The Big Bang theory does not state that everything came from nothing. In fact, that contradicts one of the most basic laws of physics, which is the law of conservation of energy. The Big Bang theory states that all of the energy in the Universe originated from the singularity.

If you're confusing things and you're actually trying to refer to something beyond the Big Bang (like say, how or why the singularity came about), then that's a completely different debate, and arguably not within the realm of science at all (at least currently), but philosophy.

It’s not that Me or him don’t understand it, it’s that you don’t understand it either and neither does anyone else. The most far-fetched miracle of all.

 

[heloder]

It’s not that Me or him don’t understand it, it’s that you don’t understand it either and neither does anyone else. The most far-fetched miracle of all.

What part of the Big Bang theory is so far fetched to you?

 

[Fox by the Sea]

coming late in the thread and it's probably been said, but why the fuck would anyone care about what rogan thinks of the big bang?

 

[Koro_11]

What part of the Big Bang theory is so far fetched to you?

Every part.

Show me any similar example of anything remotely close to that ever occurring.

 

[HereticBD]

What part of the Big Bang theory is so far fetched to you?

The part where they make up the "singularity" thing to conveniently explain their theory, despite not knowing where, how, when, why, or if this "singularity" came into existence.

But, ya know, the whole cause for the BBT is beyond the BBT. Yeah, that makes sense. Don't discuss that crucial part. That's the precise part of the argument where it sounds like made up bullshit.

 

[Bojka]

I don't see why people think the possibilities are limited to some religion people follow and the big bang.Truth is we don't really know, but all religions people follow are obviously made up.

 

[CyberRubberDuck]

I almost feel sorry for the poor simpletons who think Rogan is profound.

Yeah, the big bang is implausible- it's MORE plausible that a magical guy in the sky flicked his bic and created the universe in an instant. OK.

Barely anyone think joe himself is profound. Maybe some of his guests but not Joe.

And no one believes in a magical guy in the sky. That's just something retards call it when they can't think of an argument against a creator's existence.

 

[joy2day]

Barely anyone think shoe himself is profound. Maybe some of his guests but not Joe.

And no one believes in a magical guy in the sky. That's just something retards call it when they can't think of an argument against a creator's existence.

There is a whole sub-generation of idiots that think Rogan is profound; you would have to live under a log to miss that.

As far as your second paragraph- incredibly ironic statement. I don't even have to respond, you've exposed yourself in doing the very thing you are protesting.

 

[ermac88]

That's a dumb comparison, even if me and you don't know how a microprocessor works, thousands of geeks do understand it and are able to replicate it over and over.

I have yet to see anyone replicate "something out of nothing" on even the tiniest scale, let alone the entire known universe out of a speck of dust... nothing magical about that, just science because science says so... completely ridiculous.

You tried to disqualify the science of a theory based on our (yours and my) understanding

I don't understand science enough, hence my examples of science I don't understand practical implication, usage and existence

Because I don't understand the possible, doesn't mean that a giant magical deity (or deities) that sit on a cloud is a more viable explanation

 

[Hellowhosthat]

OK, sure, and I am open minded about all of it.

I just find it mind-boggling how some people will ridicule the idea of a creator, but pretend it’s perfectly logical to imagine everything coming from nothing or from a singularity or whatever you wanna call it.

I wouldn't personally ridicule the idea of a creator at all but I do have to admit that I do feel a bit of ridicule for organised religion where the all powerful god who created the entire universe is bothered about whether I'm fucking before marriage or eating meat that hasn't been killed a certain way before I eat it.

 

[Hellowhosthat]

Barely anyone think shoe himself is profound. Maybe some of his guests but not Joe.

And no one believes in a magical guy in the sky. That's just something retards call it when they can't think of an argument against a creator's existence.

Shit loads of people believe in various magical guys in the sky tbf.

 

[Koro_11]

You tried to disqualify the science of a theory based on our (yours and my) understanding

I don't understand science enough, hence my examples of science I don't understand practical implication, usage and existence

Because I don't understand the possible, doesn't mean that a giant magical deity (or deities) that sit on a cloud is a more viable explanation

So you have no clue, but you choose to believe what you choose to believe anyway. How are you different than anyone who is following a religion?

 

[DoctorTaco]

Ok, so him and billions of others, and what’s wrong with that, Jesus was a historical figure who in fact existed, which is more than we can say for the Big Bang theory.

Sure, but did he have magic powers? Believing so is faith, not science.

 

[ermac88]

OK, sure, and I am open minded about all of it.

I just find it mind-boggling how some people will ridicule the idea of a creator, but pretend it’s perfectly logical to imagine everything coming from nothing or from a singularity or whatever you wanna call it.

Heres a question for you-

You believe a god, gods, being, beings that snapped their fingers or created a universe.

where did they come from?

 

[Koro_11]

Sure, but did he have magic powers? Believing so is faith, not science.

But believing in Big Bang is also faith not science.

 

[ermac88]

This isn't about some laymen's understanding of how a computer science works. What a stupid comparison.

It wasn't directed at you and seemingly above you.

 

[heloder]

Every part.

Show me any similar example of anything remotely close to that ever occurring.

Every part? So you think the Universe expanding is far fetched? Why is that?

The part where they make up the "singularity" thing to conveniently explain their theory, despite not knowing where, how, when, why, or if this "singularity" came into existence.

But, ya know, the whole cause for the BBT is beyond the BBT. Yeah, that makes sense. Don't discuss that crucial part. That's the precise part of the argument where it sounds like made up bullshit.

So you're actually not even arguing against the Big Bang theory, but instead are just dissatisfied with the fact that it doesn't attempt to explain some kind of origin or anthropomorphic "reason" for it?

And yes, it does make complete sense. Science is about observation. You can only observe that which is within the Universe, and you can only use the laws that apply therein. The Big Bang theory gets us as close to the beginning of our Universe as we currently can.

If for whatever reason that isn't good enough for you, then I'm afraid you're just going to have to make something up and believe that (ie: religion). But know that whatever bullshit you come up with has no bearing on reality and is solely there to make you feel more comfortable with not knowing. But don't try to fool yourself into believing that it's some kind of counterpoint or alternative to science. They're different things. One attempts to explain the Universe, and the other is a story invented to fill in the blanks that science can't currently answer. I know that might sound harsh, but it's a fact.

 

[ermac88]

So you have no clue, but you choose to believe what you choose to believe anyway. How are you different than anyone who is following a religion?

I have no clue how the uiverse was created?

Correct I absolutely do not. I likely never will.

However there are people that study the universe, intelligent people with some level of relative expertise,

I will defer more closely to them and their theories than the millions of supernatural, primitive mythologies that attempt to explain the unknown through mythology and childish fables.