Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

Why are you making shit up? Who is talking about the Earth being 6000 years old? He only mentions Jesus, where are you coming up with this?
Millions of people. It’s called “young earth creationism”. https://ncse.ngo/just-how-many-youn...rt, then, the hard,committed to a young earth.
Secular liberals take all their morals from Christianity and for the most part live like Christians
not sure why this is bad. Take the best things about a religion (in Christianities case it’s the love, tolerance, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, and social obligations to those in a worse spot than you, among others. Basically, the teachings of Christ.). I’m also a fan of the socialist society the early believers lived by as described in the book of Acts.

Then you just throw out the blind hate and general assholery you often find in a lot of believers
 
Atheism has nothing to do with Darwin, big bang, those are separate things. An atheist may believe in those things or they may not. Atheism is just not opting into any positive belief about a god or gods.

After that, it's just opting into social norms, whether you believe in those norms or just want to avoid the consequences of not opting into them.
Ok, but why are these the norms?
 
Ok, but why are these the norms?
given these norms existed in places all over the world and predate Christianity and Judiasm, probably pragmatism. Don't kill me and don't steal my shit. I think everyone is on board with those. Beyond that norms evolve over time as problems come up.
 
At some point, ancient man learned that cooperation and working/living together for a common good got us much further along than otherwise. Part of cooperation in a society is not just murdering anyone or everyone.
 
Millions of people. It’s called “young earth creationism”. https://ncse.ngo/just-how-many-young-earth-creationists-are-there-us#:~:text=In short, then, the hard,committed to a young earth.

not sure why this is bad. Take the best things about a religion (in Christianities case it’s the love, tolerance, compassion, kindness, forgiveness, and social obligations to those in a worse spot than you, among others. Basically, the teachings of Christ.). I’m also a fan of the socialist society the early believers lived by as described in the book of Acts.

Then you just throw out the blind hate and general assholery you often find in a lot of believers
Then we basically agree.

But don't forget to throw out the blind hate and general assholery in those who don't believe and ridicule those who do.
 
Survival of the species.

given these norms existed in places all over the world and predate Christianity and Judiasm, probably pragmatism. Don't kill me and don't steal my shit. I think everyone is on board with those. Beyond that norms evolve over time as problems come up.

They benefit the species and increase our rate of surviving and reproducing.
Ok, but if there is no meaning or purpose to life, why is us surviving and reproducing important to anyone?
 
Ok, but if there is no meaning or purpose to life, why is us surviving and reproducing important to anyone?
I don't really care about collective reproduction or survival. It will happen or it will not, not much I can do about it. I care about me and mine own, and generally about my neighbours.
 
I don't really care about collective reproduction or survival. It will happen or it will not, not much I can do about it. I care about me and mine, and generally about my neighbours.
Not much you can do about it? Are you neutered?
 
Why are you making shit up? Who is talking about the Earth being 6000 years old? He only mentions Jesus, where are you coming up with this?

He says "i don't believe in the big bang, i believe in Jesus"

This implies believing in Jesus isn't compatible with believing in the big bang AKA creationists.
 
The fuck are you talking about? I'm not defending anything. I'm denouncing a silly theory that has no more basis in fact than any other.
Its not a silly theory, its our best mathematical guess.

Fact: Nobody has a fucking clue as to why, how, or when the universe was created. Not even Neil deGrasse Tyson.
Ok, but the BBT wasn't meant to answer those questions.
 
He says "i don't believe in the big bang, i believe in Jesus"

This implies believing in Jesus isn't compatible with believing in the big bang AKA creationists.
If the claim is that the big bang occurred with no mover, and without a purpose, then yeah it's incompatible.
 
No need for insults, I asked an honest question.
you ask a lot of stupid questions, hence why I ask, honestly. Maybe think before you post and research what you're whining about. You have issues with a thing you fundamentally don't understand. Maybe if you undestand what atheism and agnosticism actually are, you'd find other windmills to slay.
 
Uhh, yeah. That's kind of a big deal. Kind of connected to the entire theory.

It's really not a big deal, because the Big Bang theory is not a theory of the "origin of the singularity" or whatever it is you're seeking. I'm not really sure why you don't understand that.

You're basically the religious guy struggling to explain where God came from.

I figured out the problem here. You have no idea what science actually is, or what its purpose is. You look at the answers provided by science and the answers provided by religion and you tally them up side by side as if they're competitors, playing the same game. But they are nothing of the sort.

You seem to think subjects beyond the scope of science are proof of its invalidity. It makes sense that you believe this, because it tracks very well with someone who believes in, or would prefer to believe in, religious doctrine, since religious doctrine is designed to be unfalsifiable.

And that's really where the key distinction lies. If it's unfalsifiable, then it is inherently not science. This is why you reject science; your brain craves the unfalsifiable, because you feel more comfortable believing those kinds of ideas, as opposed to falsifiable theories.

Don't worry though, because you're not exactly alone. Billions of people feel the same way you do. They don't want 50% of the truth, or 80% of the truth. They want 100% of the truth, and they want it to be the infallible truth. A truth that never changes. A truth they can live their lives by. A truth they never have to worry about defending, because it is an unassailable truth. And that's what religion gets you.

Of course, that truth is complete bullshit. But your brain is very comfortable ignoring that part.

Me? I'm perfectly fine not having all the answers, as long as the answers I do have are based on observation and reason. Bullshit from a religious text doesn't interest me at all save for the sociological and historical context.
 
Mythologies like everything, out of nothing, for no reason at all?

As for religion, I'm not gonna talk about something from 500 years ago, people did all kinds of fucked up shit with or without religion... barbarism, slavery, cruelty, these things were all part of everyday life long before Christianity came along, try reading a history book from time to time.

I also have the right to ridicule the liberal atheist who is every bit as zealous and religious as the people he looks down on but is too dumb to see his own hypocrisy.
wut?
 
Agreed. Which is why I ridicule scientism followers, climate cultists and trans cultists.
You ridicule science? Science. Okay then.

I have an acquaintance who doesn't believe science or math either.

Hey...That's entirely your choice, its not new to humanity throughout history; however, you may want to look up the definition of a cult
 
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