Joe Rogan isnt sold on the Bing Bang theory finds Jesus resurrection more plausible

Koro_11 said:
Everything out of nothing for no purpose at all sounds like the most supernatural mythology of all.

LOL @ "complicated physical phenomena"... show me just one example where anything even remotely similar has ever occurred anywhere. All the matter in the universe, trillions of stars and planets, all out of absolutely nothing, for no reason at all... have you thought about that for even 10 seconds, try it...
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I have high school level of education in science. Even as someone who often programs, i cant fathom how many programs/math/ computation and computer science works.

because I personally dont understand the depth of science, doesnt disqualify its existence or less its probability of occurrence.

I am using a computer right now, even though I cant tell you exactly how its microprocessor works or even how data is stored to solid state drives, I can tell you that the computer and its function is real, unlike the thousands of mythological stories from hundreds of cultures of supernatural deities that are all a bunch bullshit.
 
ermac88 said:
I have high school level of education in science. Even as someone who often programs, i cant fathom how many programs/math/ computation and computer science works.

because I personally dont understand the depth of science, doesnt disqualify its existence or less its probability of occurrence.

I am using a computer right now, even though I cant tell you exactly how its microprocessor works or even how data is stored to solid state drives, I can tell you that the computer and its function is real, unlike the thousands of mythological stories from hundreds of cultures of supernatural deities that are all a bunch bullshit.
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That's a dumb comparison, even if me and you don't know how a microprocessor works, thousands of geeks do understand it and are able to replicate it over and over.

I have yet to see anyone replicate "something out of nothing" on even the tiniest scale, let alone the entire known universe out of a speck of dust... nothing magical about that, just science because science says so... completely ridiculous.
 
ermac88 said:
I have high school level of education in science. Even as someone who often programs, i cant fathom how many programs/math/ computation and computer science works.

because I personally dont understand the depth of science, doesnt disqualify its existence or less its probability of occurrence.

I am using a computer right now, even though I cant tell you exactly how its microprocessor works or even how data is stored to solid state drives, I can tell you that the computer and its function is real, unlike the thousands of mythological stories from hundreds of cultures of supernatural deities that are all a bunch bullshit.
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This isn't about some laymen's understanding of how a computer science works. What a stupid comparison.

Wait, do you actually think that the BBT is based in scientific fact? Like there are people out who actually know how the universe was created, like there are people who know how computer science works? Really? Please give me the names of these all knowing beings.
 
Goatenstein said:
Christians are the dumbest people alive.
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Fundamentalists are, USA is the Saudi Arabia version of Christianity, the most idiotic, fundamentalist and zealous christians of the world, but because the country itself is rich, they export their stupid ass version of Christianity all around the world.

Real Christians over 1500 years ago already knew that saying stupid shit to learned men only hurt the Church, not help it.

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Koro_11 said:
Yet, somehow, you are able to get your head around the concept that everything around us came to existence from nothing in a second for no apparent reason or purpose?

You will accept the most unlikely and far fetched scenario of all, and you think that’s the more rational take?
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Not from nothing, but from a singularity.

Also its not opposed to the existence of a Christian god either, it is well accepted by the church since the earliest days that the Bible is not to be taken literally.

You could argue for example that the Genesis is describing the formation of the universe, not of the earth itself.
 
Rod1 said:
Not from nothing, but from a singularity.

Also its not opposed to the existence of a Christian god either, it is well accepted by the church since the earliest days that the Bible is not to be taken literally.

You could argue for example that the Genesis is describing the formation of the universe, not of the earth itself.
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OK, sure, and I am open minded about all of it.

I just find it mind-boggling how some people will ridicule the idea of a creator, but pretend it’s perfectly logical to imagine everything coming from nothing or from a singularity or whatever you wanna call it.
 
Koro_11 said:
OK, sure, and I am open minded about all of it.

I just find it mind-boggling how some people will ridicule the idea of a creator, but pretend it’s perfectly logical to imagine everything coming from nothing or from a singularity or whatever you wanna call it.
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They don't ridicule the idea of a creator, but creationism, which is taking the Genesis literally.

Rogan is clearly being influenced by fundamentalists because his statement implies Christianity and Big Bang theory are at odds.
 
'Self mad man worth $200M is stupid, says gas station clerk with $40k of personal debt.'
 
Snubnoze707 said:
Not sure why the alternative to the story of Jesus has to be the Big Bang, or even if you are atheist/agnostic that would require a belief in the theory of the Big Bang, but if you watch the actual podcast rather than a short clip or Fox getting wet over Rogan saying this, you'll see he wasn't being completely serious. I don't think Joe has gone back to Christianity. He was raised in that shit and abandoned it a long time ago.
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People are acting like they are blind to this. I don't see the issue with someone saying they cannot see the BB being more plausible. It is their opinion and not a fact.

My issue is since the universe is speeding up, and they are not entirely sure as to when it started and why, it seems to be a lot of guesswork involved and trying to fill in the holes working backwards. Granted, I do not fully understand it all, or are even close to it, so there is that too...
 
Rod1 said:
They don't ridicule the idea of a creator, but creationism, which is taking the Genesis literally.

Rogan is clearly being influenced by fundamentalists because his statement implies Christianity and Big Bang theory are at odds.
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You think Rogan takes the Genesis literally?

I mean I'm the last guy to defend Rogan, and there's a bunch of stuff you can ridicule him for, but being an overzealous Christian of all things is not one of them. He's remained pretty consistent with his stance, I guess he's gone from a full out atheist to now an agnostic, which is a completely rational conclusion that anyone who gives it enough thought will arrive at.

To claim the truth of any religion is silly, but to claim there is no God with any kind of certainty is just as silly so atheism is just another form of religion if you really think about it.

Saying "we have no idea" seems to be the most honest take, and that's basically where he's at.
 
HereticBD said:
It's a bunch of gobbledygook.
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Lol ok.

People are free to believe whatever they want and that's fine in my book. But Hubble's Law and CMB are things that actually exist, and there is no explanation for them other than BBT. So at the very least, BBT is based on more fact than any random creation myth.
 
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